You earn that right by winning games against the like of Brighton,Burnley etc not get trashed by them.
They have gone down before with players of the quality of Carrick,Defoe and Lampard
David Moyes West Ham Manager | Gone (pedantic sod Sarni)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
They have gone down before with players of the quality of Carrick,Defoe and Lampard
Carrick and Defoe were very young and Lampard was no longer there. They were too good to go down back then too, they did because of bad management (think it was Roeder).
If they are relegated this year Moyes will be largely at fault and it will be added to his list of 'achievements' since he left Everton. If they barely save themselves from relegation, it's not a huge achievement that he should brag about. Getting them to finish mid-table would probably be above par achievement considering the morale of the team, just keeping them higher than 18th will not be above par.
The hair green monster follows him to whichever club he is at. I can remember half our fans stupidly chanting the give him time and fergie chose him mantra while the other half wanted him physically thrown out of the club. The west ham internal discontent is just another manifestation of this. Any one tempted to hire him in the future should take note.
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would it be worth it in the end?They were bad but they were not supposed to be lose to Burnley at home 3-0 bad.
That six year contract was insane.Thank god the board realized it was a big mistake.
Crazy long-term contracts were all the rage back around 2012/13, it seems. Alan Pardew still has two years left on the one he signed at Newcastle...
Christ and he's teetering on the brink of losing his second or third job since too.
I fail to sympathise with any club that appoints Moyes. He literally got a better job as a reward for being an utter failure in his last one.
Real Sociedad where in the Champions league a few seasons prior to Moyes joining. Heck he even faced them in the competition.
Have returned to European competition since he left. That's just nonsense.
But they won the world cup in 66
Won the Community Shield, brought Mata and Fellaini, and lead against Bayern Munich for 60 seconds, so yes
Every West Ham fan I’ve ever met has been an insufferable prat.
Yeah I read that nonsense a lot when he was there. Bullshit. He took a top half team to near relegation.
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get over that. He was literally running the club into the ground and people were still backing him because of this ridiculous notion that “United don’t sack managers, we’re better than that” and “fergie chose him and he knows more than us. Give him time”. That was genuinely the darkest period of being a United fan since I’ve began watching football. Given their way there were far too many that would have had Moyes here for a few more years.
His very existence upsets me.
Can imagine his smugness if he managed to stay up claimin credits and probably throw that's west ham level and they lucky to have him saving them
Fergie got him because he thought Moyes would listen to him. Fergie advised him to keep the back room staff for sometime. The first thing Moyes did was to sack them and bring in a guy no one has ever heard of as his assistant.
Then he over trained RVP so much that RVP pulled a muscle and got injured. He then started going after Fabregas, Bale, Ronaldo and Messi etc thinking they wanted to play for David Moyes. The man is delusional and the damage he has done in such a short time to United is still going on and United have still not received from it.
To make matters worse he cannot forget about it and thinks he is entitled to Manage United till his 6 year contract is over.
Furthermore, you cannot compare Moyes to Big Sam. Big Sam at least keeps teams up and have never been relegated from the PL. He has never been sacked for being relegation fodder either. He has always managed much smaller clubs than Everton before and now it looks like he is going to keep them up again while when he took over they look they might get relegated.
Then he over trained RVP so much that RVP pulled a muscle and got injured. He then started going after Fabregas, Bale, Ronaldo and Messi etc thinking they wanted to play for David Moyes. The man is delusional and the damage he has done in such a short time to United is still going on and United have still not received from it.
To make matters worse he cannot forget about it and thinks he is entitled to Manage United till his 6 year contract is over.
Furthermore, you cannot compare Moyes to Big Sam. Big Sam at least keeps teams up and have never been relegated from the PL. He has never been sacked for being relegation fodder either. He has always managed much smaller clubs than Everton before and now it looks like he is going to keep them up again while when he took over they look they might get relegated.
I'd hardly say he confirms it in that article tbh. He's more making a generalised point.
And we're still paying part of Rooney wage for another year, ain't we? (technically with the severance fee for him to rejoin Everton)
Well yeah thats what i said.
But still having your boss tell you that they won't be renewing your contract and no longer want to employ you amounts to being sacked whatever the technicalities.
Watched the interview too a few years ago.
The facial expression plus the fact that it was a direct question that he replied to lends to that.
You say that jokingly but Mourinho has yet to even match what Moyes achieved for us in the Champions League...Won the Community Shield, brought Mata and Fellaini, and lead against Bayern Munich for 60 seconds, so yes
Not his fault we weren't in it when he arrived!
Used to think Sunderland were the most depressing sight in football. Now they're irrelevant and off for a holiday in League 1, you'd struggle to match Moyes and West Ham for depressing football scenarios. Should never have got rid of Allardicio.
Do you want Moyes back?
Sometimes you feel bad about tellling people they missed that a post was a joke, other times, not so much.
watched the game against Burnley. What the hell did Moyes say to them at half time? "You've been quite good lads, stop it!"?. He still has no Plan B and still make the same whiney noises. Leeds for him next!
Everyone and their dog knew that appointing Moyes would be a disaster. Press would allow interviews for him to keep him relevant and make people believe that he can still do a job. But that doesn't mean he could do it.
Our Moyesie doesn't half pick em.
Keeping a team like West Ham up shouldn't even be any great shakes!
Keeping a team like West Ham up shouldn't even be any great shakes!
If he gets relegated again, you think he'll get another PL club? Who would take him?
Depends on which owner reads/buys into his interviews on Dailymail.
West Ham is in a much worst situation than before hiring Moyes. I think we are starting to see a pattern here...
Give him a chance mate he's only been there 6 months, Plan B comes after Plan A and he's still working on that one.
Definitely Moyes has just been very unfortunate that the last four clubs he has taken over were on the cusp of imploding and theres nothing any manager in the world let alone a great like Dave could have done to stop it.
It's shocking stuff. They have a good enough squad for midtable, at least.
I could accept that with SUnderland, they had a poor squad. But at the Hammers the squad is pretty decent. He has enough talent at his disposal to turn arround things.