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Bwuk

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He has to but as I said he'll be the fall guy definitely next season.
Unless he improves dramatically then so he should be. We’ve clearly signed him to be the superstar in this side.

If he has a similar season to how he’s peformed last season for us, then he’ll onvioisly be looked at as a massive disappointment.
 

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A summer of rest will hopefully do Alexis good because he’s going to need to have some season to make his signing palatable. As soon as Sanchez went inside left as default, I feared that this may cost us long term. Having Sanchez, Rashford and Martial in the same squad was unlikely to work out without serious work in training over the summer.

Remember when Sanchez was going to be the luxury signing for City?
 

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To be brutally honest, I just don't rate him as a player. In 6 months here so far I haven't seen any one aspect that he's good at. He plays on the left but doesn't dribble at players, looked to me like he lost a yard of pace to get away from defenders which was his strength before, always giving the ball away. I don't see what can change individually for him next season because he was never an inconsistent player to begin with. You would always get 8/10 from Sanchez but at United I've seen some 3/10 performances which have been quite a shock. I give him next season to turn it around and prove me wrong.
 

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The thing is that he has hardly even played on the left. He has played virtually like a fourth midfielder.
He was still as industrious as ever so I'm not sure it's about rest. Remember that he played almost no football for about four weeks before he signed for us.
I think a lot of the problem is tactical. He is playing too deep. And with Young not offering much width since he is right footed, Sanchez's space is even more congested.
 

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I sometimes get the feeling we only bought Sanches so that City dont buy him first. It was such an impulse buy for us.
 

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For the kind of money he is on and the sacrifice we have to make by letting one of our big prospects go he has to perform at his 16/17 level
 

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Well he actually got us in the FA cup final given he was MOTM and scored against Spurs.

Hes been a the club a few months . Give it a rest.
he's been below par in every game he's played.

If your happy with his performances that's fine. I expect better from Sanchez than what we've seen so far.
 

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Have we ever signed a player in January that hit the ground running? It's extremely extremely hard to.
 

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Everyone's entitled to have an opinion but sometimes the things I read beggars belief. Whether people rate him or not, 5 months at a club, signed in Mid season to a team that was struggling anyway isn't potentially going to produce your greatest start to your career at any club. The problem for him now is the Martial fans will use Sanchez for his demise.
Sanchez can now join the Pogba, Rom and Lingard et al camp. The vultures will always be circling him waiting for something to go wrong....
 

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Man alive, I have read some outlandish stuff on the Cafe recently...but if people are seriously blaming Sanchez because of Martial's decision to want to leave the club then they are having an absolute laugh. If Martial has made the decision to want to leave then that's on him, no one else. On his day he is brilliant, but truly how many times have we seen that? It seems he lacks the mentality to succeed here at United, and blaming Sanchez because he came in in January is an absolute cop out. Blame Jose for not playing him more or Martial for his own troubles, but blaming Sanchez is just mental imo.
 
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The problem for him now is the Martial fans will use Sanchez for his demise.
Only on an on-line forum where most of these ‘fans’ are children and have never even been to OT.

If Sánchez plays like he did for Arsenal then no-one will even remember Martial if he goes.
 

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Established stars like Sanchez et al, they shouldn't need half a season to re-find form. Especially so in Sanchez' case since he's been playing in this league for 4 years now. If he played this way for another top-team after moving in January people would be calling in a flop. But because he's a United player some seem to think he should be excluded from criticism.
 

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Established stars like Sanchez et al, they shouldn't need half a season to re-find form. Especially so in Sanchez' case since he's been playing in this league for 4 years now. If he played this way for another top-team after moving in January people would be calling in a flop. But because he's a United player some seem to think he should be excluded from criticism.
That's just straight up not true. Most players would need time to bed in, to a new style of training, new tactics, new manager. Top players have struggled with summer transfers, January transfers make it even harder for players acclimatise. It feels weird saying this so much on this site but football isn't a video game, just because a player is X good doesn't mean they will fit in faster than a player worse than them.
 

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That's just straight up not true. Most players would need time to bed in, to a new style of training, new tactics, new manager. Top players have struggled with summer transfers, January transfers make it even harder for players acclimatise. It feels weird saying this so much on this site but football isn't a video game, just because a player is X good doesn't mean they will fit in faster than a player worse than them.
Nail on head, and it surprises me too how often it has to be said.
 

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This is absolute nonsense. By your reckoning, what player on a half decent wage has any incentive to perform?
Proven winners, certainly not someone who was hated by the Arsenal locker room


If that guy had any ambitions to win anything on a club level (shows up for Chile gotta give him credit for that) he would have never joined Arsenal in his prime anyways
 
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We gave him everything this half season. Huge salary, favourite position, benched our best attacking player( at that time). He failed to deliver. He has some excuses and that is why i never criticize him.
Now with free summer and full pre season with us he has clean start and no excuse. He must deliver next season and be our best player.
 

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That's just straight up not true. Most players would need time to bed in, to a new style of training, new tactics, new manager. Top players have struggled with summer transfers, January transfers make it even harder for players acclimatise. It feels weird saying this so much on this site but football isn't a video game, just because a player is X good doesn't mean they will fit in faster than a player worse than them.
It's not even about bedding-in. Technique, awareness, movement, dribbling, none of these rely on tactics or players surrounding him. Yet these aspects of his game have suffered since making the move. Try and not to be so condescending in your posts next time either.
 
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Established stars like Sanchez et al, they shouldn't need half a season to re-find form. Especially so in Sanchez' case since he's been playing in this league for 4 years now. If he played this way for another top-team after moving in January people would be calling in a flop. But because he's a United player some seem to think he should be excluded from criticism.
There won’t be anyone saying that Sánchez has played well for the club, as he’s clearly been poor.

However, he only moved in January, players rarely hit the ground running when they move mid season, no matter what their experience - and Arsenal and Man Utd are like chalk and cheese in the way they play and the expectations of their managers, so there would need to be a lot of adapting to do.

I had hoped he would have performed better, but to call a player a flop after 6 months is ridiculous, no matter who they are playing for.
 

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That's just straight up not true. Most players would need time to bed in, to a new style of training, new tactics, new manager. Top players have struggled with summer transfers, January transfers make it even harder for players acclimatise. It feels weird saying this so much on this site but football isn't a video game, just because a player is X good doesn't mean they will fit in faster than a player worse than them.
I agree to an extent but to be fair. Mkhi settled at arsenal much better than Sanchez has here.
Plus Aubameyang, Giroud, VVD. I think part of reason for Alexis’ struggles is the way our team is set up. Like someone said before he is playing so far away from goal and our players seem too static for his passes. We expect a 29 year old to perform instantly though, especially coming from this league anyway. Next season is huge for him. Anything less than top class won’t be good enough. His been brought to be our superstar player for right now.
 

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It's not even about bedding-in. Technique, awareness, movement, dribbling, none of these rely on tactics or players surrounding him. Yet these aspects of his game have suffered since making the move. Try and not to be so condescending in your posts next time either.
A lot of those do depend on tactics though, he's used to one set of tactics so his game is based around that. Awareness and movement are definitely thrown into disarray when you have to take new tactics and management into account. If we're sitting here next January and it's the same, I will agree with you. But with the preseason to bed in, get used to what the manager wants him to do and what the players around him play like, I would hope he gives us more than he has.
 
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If that guy had any ambitions to win anything on a club level (shows up for Chile gotta give him credit for that) he would have never joined Arsenal in his prime anyways
What an utterly condescending and disingenuous post. Should every player just go to Bayern, PSG, Real and Barca to guarantee medals (pretty sure he played for Barca ) - The lure of playing for Wenger was massive for a lot of players and their style of play. He was a squad player at Barcelona and went to Arsenal and became their talisman.

It’s not all about medals, if is was, David May would be considered one of the greats.
 

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God, the salt in this thread.

I understand people being angry that Martial is probably leaving, but it's not the club fault that he can't handle competition. he should have fought for his place.

And people writing off Sanchez ? give me a break, last year Martial did feck all, and people were still * rightly behind him*. just be consistent people.
 

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To be brutally honest, I just don't rate him as a player. In 6 months here so far I haven't seen any one aspect that he's good at. He plays on the left but doesn't dribble at players, looked to me like he lost a yard of pace to get away from defenders which was his strength before, always giving the ball away. I don't see what can change individually for him next season because he was never an inconsistent player to begin with. You would always get 8/10 from Sanchez but at United I've seen some 3/10 performances which have been quite a shock. I give him next season to turn it around and prove me wrong.
This post should be stored somewhere and you should have your humble pie ready mate. Saying that, I guess you would be happy to be wrong on this one - just like me and my ramblings about Lukaku
 

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Proven winners, certainly not someone who was hated by the Arsenal locker room


If that guy had any ambitions to win anything on a club level (shows up for Chile gotta give him credit for that) he would have never joined Arsenal in his prime anyways
He was hated in the latter part because he wanted to move to a club with a better chance of winning the league. He was loved through his time there for the most part.

And to be fair, he won 3 FA Cups at Arsenal. They were shite in the league, but 3 FA Cups is very good. We've won 2 in 15 years. But I agree, he could've looked for a better team. Who knows who was even in for him at the time though. What his options were.
 

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Way too much senseless criticism for Sanchez on here

I actually think he was one of our best performers in the second half of last season. The team itself didn't play well, so Sanchez was never really going to look like a World Class star. But most of our best attacking play went through Sanchez.

I really desperately hope Mourinho strengthens our weak areas and with his full pre-season, Sanchez will have the opportunity to change a lot of peoples minds.
 

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Way too much senseless criticism for Sanchez on here

I actually think he was one of our best performers in the second half of last season. The team itself didn't play well, so Sanchez was never really going to look like a World Class star. But most of our best attacking play went through Sanchez.

I really desperately hope Mourinho strengthens our weak areas and with his full pre-season, Sanchez will have the opportunity to change a lot of peoples minds.
Indeed, show me a big game where Martial had the same level of impact Sanchez did against City and Spurs in the FA Cup semi final
 

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I think he'll shine if we make the necessary adjustments as a team.
 

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I think he'll shine if we make the necessary adjustments as a team.
 

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He needs to stop coming so deep, that's the problem
He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and compare it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle.
 
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He needs to stop coming so deep, that's the problem
He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and ximoaco it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle
 

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He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and ximoaco it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle
He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and compare it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle.
Uhhh?
 

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He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and ximoaco it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle
The feck?
 

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He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and compare it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle.
He comes deep cause our transition is so poor and our attackers don't get the ball in meaningful areas at speed. If you notice, all our attackers come deep.
I'd like to see his average touches in the box at Arsenal and ximoaco it with his stats at United.
Then he plays on the inside, manned by a LB that has to cut onto his right foot to cross, so teams are fairly comfortable congesting the middle
:lol:
 
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