DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
Probably because we are all drunk.We'll all look back at this and laugh at Christmas when we will be unbeaten and 9 points clear.
Probably because we are all drunk.We'll all look back at this and laugh at Christmas when we will be unbeaten and 9 points clear.
Big club experience would be nice (especially as United is such a media global animal and not all managers could cope) but it wouldn't be the be all and end all for me. The ability to improve players via coaching (rather than have to buy readymade all the time), man management and style of play is more important for me.We should go for Leonardo Jardim imo if Jose was to leave.
The only negative is that he hasn't got big, big club experience. But he's worth the risk.
- Champions League Experience
- Promotes Youth
- Attacking, exciting football
- Monaco would compromise
- Very good scouting/transfers
- Rebuilds teams quickly
Please never try and manage. You'd be in an employment tribunal every other week!I'd blame the board for complacency. Should have shown him the door after he boosted his ego when reminding us of the victories he'd inflicted on the club and then after slagging his players off.
You can. That's what Chelsea doing and still winning league.If Jose can't win us the league, then there simply isn't anybody else and I think you'd have to blame the board.
You cannot keep firing managers and hitting reset button every 2 years, expecting a different result.
We have a hired a serial winner and he has told the board what he needs, to win the league. Now, it's up to the board to deliver on what Jose wants....or accept that we won't win the league.
The problem with this forum is that they always want a new shiny toy. Right now, it's Zidane. If he were hired, 2 years later, those people who wanted ZZ, would want him fired, just so they could see the next shiny new toy.
You are Ryan Giggs and i claim my £5 .If it were a job specification
- Tactics - Plays free-flowing attacking football. But understands that at times you have to adapt the style (without parking the bus).
- Man Management - Has the ability to man-manage a team of overpaid ego-maniacs and get the best out of fragile egos.
- Youth - Has the ability to nurture young players and understands youth player psychology.
- Delegation - Can delegate certain responsibilities to the other coaching staff
- External stakeholder relations - Is able to represent Manchester United Club with dignity in front of press and the wider football community.
- Internal stakeholder relations - is able to work with a director of football, scouts and youth coaches on player and coach promotions.
- Accountability - Hold himself accountable for on-field results.
- Man Utd Values - Understands the values of Manchester United.
- Adaptability - Has an open mind and is able to question his approach every year.
Feel free to add to this job specification.
When you list all these attributes, you realise that none of our last three managers were able to adapt, understand Man Utd, they blamed others.
I personally think that the board should be looking beyond the obvious candidates and shortlisting as many potential names:
- ex-players (internal / external)
- young coaches (internal / external)
When Barcelona hired Pep, they did a spent interviewing many candidates. Including Mourinho who prepared PowerPoint deck on why he should be the manager of Barcelona. In the end, their chosen coach was an ex-player whose only experience was managing their second 11. The rest is history.
Ok, understand where you're coming from, but add on the zero entertainment value of the crap dished up week in week out. There's enough for him to have to walk.Please never try and manage. You'd be in an employment tribunal every other week!
Not everyone that is talented as a manager/ leader will follow the my little pony approach to dealing with media and staff!
Let’s head into a new season speculating about when the managers going to get sacked...brilliant...The writing seems to be on the wall for the ''Happy one'' however if he was to go, start of the season or mid season who is there that could pick up this squad up and take it on a level.
Looking round the pool of managers available is quite shot and I don't expect us to get anyone who's currently at a well established club like Pochettino during the season. Basically Mourinho is here for the rest of the season but because our board are a bit slow it's not impossible that we part ways during the season therefore I wondered who you guys think would be attainable and who would do a good job.
That basically describes Jardim down to a tee. Either him or Poch are the ones we should be looking at next. Negelsmann would be in the mix also, but he's at RBL, which I think would be akin to getting blood out of a stone if we went for him.If it were a job specification
- Tactics - Plays free-flowing attacking football. But understands that at times you have to adapt the style (without parking the bus).
- Man Management - Has the ability to man-manage a team of overpaid ego-maniacs and get the best out of fragile egos.
- Youth - Has the ability to nurture young players and understands youth player psychology.
- Delegation - Can delegate certain responsibilities to the other coaching staff
- External stakeholder relations - Is able to represent Manchester United Club with dignity in front of press and the wider football community.
- Internal stakeholder relations - is able to work with a director of football, scouts and youth coaches on player and coach promotions.
- Accountability - Hold himself accountable for on-field results.
- Man Utd Values - Understands the values of Manchester United.
- Adaptability - Has an open mind and is able to question his approach every year.
Feel free to add to this job specification.
When you list all these attributes, you realise that none of our last three managers were able to adapt, understand Man Utd, they blamed others.
I personally think that the board should be looking beyond the obvious candidates and shortlisting as many potential names:
- ex-players (internal / external)
- young coaches (internal / external)
When Barcelona hired Pep, they did a spent interviewing many candidates. Including Mourinho who prepared PowerPoint deck on why he should be the manager of Barcelona. In the end, their chosen coach was an ex-player whose only experience was managing their second 11. The rest is history.
Not “other clubs”,only Real Madrid And Barcelona can afford to do that and keep winning because of the ridiculous squad that they have built up over the last decade.No PL club can afford to give it to an inexperienced former player,the league is just far too competitive....I'm starting to think that maybe we should have given it to Giggsy.
He knows and loves the club like us fans, and i'm sure he'd atleast try to play the 'United way', and listened to supporters, atleast more than the last two.
We have had 2 of the most stubborn and proud managers out there, in LvG and Mourinho, they do it their way, and are not open for ideas from others to change their ways.
I was never in the 'Give it to Giggseh' camp, but now.... i doubt we'd been worse off than we have since SAF.
funny how other top clubs can appoint former players and just keep winning.
Pep won't let him.What if Jose moans his way to a league title this season?
I call it the Charlier Sheen complex. #WinningMcKenna/Butt as interim. Making all efforts to appoint Poch next season.
What Sarri actually won? What Conte actually won when Juventus appointed him (and it was before their titles streak)?
Stop appoint managers only because wikipedia.
Look on philosophy, work with players, kind of team play. Poch exactly what the club need today.
If Jose leaves, just make sure you enjoy life outside top 4 for about 5 years unless The Glazers pull their fingers out. I don’t know any other manager on the planet that could have gotten us to a 2nd place finish with the mediocre squad we have.What I would say though, is when Jose does leave, which he will eventually as he’s not immortal, appointing a manager who will get us playing good enjoyable football is higher up on my priority list than it would have been in the past. Take care of the style first then work towards making that a winning formula, rather than the other way around. I want to enjoy watching football again.
We need someone with good communication skills and Giggs doesn't have that. If we're going down this route, may as well give it to Vidic - he's intelligent, charismatic, a leader, and knows the club as well as Giggs.I'm starting to think that maybe we should have given it to Giggsy.
He knows and loves the club like us fans, and i'm sure he'd atleast try to play the 'United way', and listened to supporters, atleast more than the last two.
We have had 2 of the most stubborn and proud managers out there, in LvG and Mourinho, they do it their way, and are not open for ideas from others to change their ways.
I was never in the 'Give it to Giggseh' camp, but now.... i doubt we'd been worse off than we have since SAF.
funny how other top clubs can appoint former players and just keep winning.
Have you talked with him, or do you just know because you have made your mind up by watching interviews?We need someone with good communication skills and Giggs doesn't have that. If we're going down this route, may as well give it to Vidic - he's intelligent, charismatic, a leader, and knows the club as well as Giggs.
If that documentary is anything to go by, he's dire.Have you talked with him, or do you just know because you have made your mind up by watching interviews?
How can we know how he is in the dressing room or the training pitch?
Mediocre squad is it now? He's brought in a good portion of those players himself. Lindelöf was a bad mistake. Lukaku is nowhere near the level he was at with Everton. Pogba - world class for everybody else but us. Sanchez finished product with Arsenal, class player - unrecognizable in utd shirt. Rashford gone backwords in his development. Need one say more?If Jose leaves, just make sure you enjoy life outside top 4 for about 5 years unless The Glazers pull their fingers out. I don’t know any other manager on the planet that could have gotten us to a 2nd place finish with the mediocre squad we have.
Never seen (or read) it, just have the impression that many make up their minds about these things without really having a clueIf that documentary is anything to go by, he's dire.
I'm guessing Zidane is making a long term play at Juventus to replace Allegri next summer.Mourinho will be here until end if season, beyond that I am not convinced.
If he were to leave during the season I still don’t think the club would have a clue what to do and would just go for biggest name who is out of contract. If Mourinho walked about tomorrow I imagine they would want Zidane but maybe end up with Conte.
Rashford/Martial didn’t go backwards - it’s you people misreading a very simple scenario. When finishing 5th/6th was our highest position attainable....Rashford/Martial looked good cos it’s much easier to look excellent on that level.Mediocre squad is it now? He's brought in a good portion of those players himself. Lindelöf was a bad mistake. Lukaku is nowhere near the level he was at with Everton. Pogba - world class for everybody else but us. Sanchez finished product with Arsenal, class player - unrecognizable in utd shirt. Rashford gone backwords in his development. Need one say more?