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Can't stand the term 'sheeple'. Seems to be used exclusively by 'sheetheads'.
While sheepheads watched their flock by night.Can't stand the term 'sheeple'. Seems to be used exclusively by 'sheetheads'.
I think he believes his own words, but I've never known a politician so far out of touch with normal, working people.The man is a fraud.
You can't write this stuff.IDS about the EU : "I think they are actually reacting in worry now. The truth is, you cannot have a plan A if you don’t have a plan B. Negotiation always requires that the other side believe that you will do something if this fails. And they haven’t believed that.
What they need to understand is that the UK has a plan to leave should they not agree a deal."
The EU are really worried the UK will shoot themselves in the foot, then in the knee, then in the.....
Apparently you can if it is dictated to you by IDS.You can't write this stuff.
Hilarious!
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of the ignorance our politicians are displaying is willful - surely, they should know all this by now?Anyone read the latest Ivan Rogers speech on the whole debacle. Well worth a read if you have the time..
https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/12/13/full-speech-sir-ivan-rogers-on-brexit/ (apologies for the Liverpool echo link)
TLDR version in the Guardian here
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-rogers-brexit-bombshell-digested-home-truths
I honestly can only see the process dragging on indefinitely after reading that. I can't see anyone wilfully letting us fall out without a deal unless they want their head on a spike outside the HoP and I can't really see anything being resolved in the next 3 months with all the party politics getting in the way of anything constructive coming from Westminster. Defacto can kicking is my prediction whether that means revoking Article 50 or via some other fudge.
Hilarious!
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Good point and it's almost difficult to decide whether abject dishonesty is worse than pigheaded ignorance of all available evidence.Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I wonder how much of the ignorance our politicians are displaying is willful - surely, they should know all this by now?
You're forgetting the people who think Scotland is there so the tories don't win every election.If ever a sentence summed up what pretty much the entirety of Westminster thinks of us.
Neither is forgivable, tbh. My guess is there might be full-on denial as well, especially among the hardcore Brexiteers. It seems more like religion to them.Good point and it's almost difficult to decide whether abject dishonesty is worse than pigheaded ignorance of all available evidence.
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Looks like a number of Tory MPs are now saying they'll side with Labour if the government goes full no deal. That's significant.
Just need Labour not to shit the bed and hold out on confidence motion until May passes her deal. GE mid February at this rate.
Serious question: if there was a GE do you really think Corbyn would win and if he did, would he win with a majority government?Looks like a number of Tory MPs are now saying they'll side with Labour if the government goes full no deal. That's significant.
Just need Labour not to shit the bed and hold out on confidence motion until May passes her deal. GE mid February at this rate.
1. I think labour would looseSerious question: if there was a GE do you really think Corbyn would win and if he did, would he win with a majority government?
Second part: if he did win, what would he do about Brexit?
I think there's too many unknowns to answer that. If they ran on a second vote then maybe with a coalition they win.Serious question: if there was a GE do you really think Corbyn would win and if he did, would he win with a majority government?
Second part: if he did win, what would he do about Brexit?
Course he wouldnt win, british people vote for the same shit they spend years moaning about and thats why i hope remain voting tory scum get the full force of any Brexit coming their way.Serious question: if there was a GE do you really think Corbyn would win and if he did, would he win with a majority government?
Second part: if he did win, what would he do about Brexit?
1. I think labour would loose
2. I think him plus the snp might be able to make a coalition
3. Whatever wee Jimmy cranky tells him as a condition of the coalition....obvs indy ref 2 as well
I think there's too many unknowns to answer that. If they ran on a second vote then maybe with a coalition they win.
If there's a GE because of a confidence vote then those who had backed Labour in a confidence vote would i assume have to run as independents. They might end up as power makers.
Personally I don't see him winning a GE but if there was one he would have to reveal his Brexit intention. I don't think his magical cake and eat it proposition will go down too well now. A coalition with the SNP would be funny and probably not go down too well in England.Course he wouldnt win, british people vote for the same shit they spend years moaning about and thats why i hope remain voting tory scum get the full force of any Brexit coming their way.
no conservatives will back him - at best a handful might abstainIf Tories backed Labour in a no confidence vote would surely be deselected for a new GE and other candidates selected by the Tories to run in those constituencies.
He would not win, tories would, for the reasons I mentioned above.Serious question: if there was a GE do you really think Corbyn would win and if he did, would he win with a majority government?
Second part: if he did win, what would he do about Brexit?
I tend to agree with you.He would not win, tories would, for the reasons I mentioned above.
Dunno what he'd do about Brexit, if he wanted power so badly and he thought that another ref would result in remain, surely he would back remain just to get in the hot seat. but i'm not sure there are as many remainers as some would like to believe.
There isn't really a lot they can say I guess until that vote on the 'Deal' takes place. Only way to stop all this inaction is to have the vote and react on whatever the outcome is.I tend to agree with you.
I don't see a GE or a referendum nor what they would do to change the current position the UK are in.
100 days to go and I listen to Uk news and read the papers and they all seem to be sleepwalking believing that some miracle is going to solve the problems they face.
Yes but if the vote goes through then everything carries on as per the agreement assuming it later gets ratified etc. So no referendum or GE.There isn't really a lot they can say I guess until that vote on the 'Deal' takes place. Only way to stop all this inaction is to have the vote and react on whatever the outcome is.
Just saying what everyone is thinking.The outrage over Corbyn
Yeah of courseJust saying what everyone is thinking.