Moyes II!
The Torygraph’s idea for a sensational headline during the transfer window!
It’s bollox.
The Torygraph’s idea for a sensational headline during the transfer window!
It’s bollox.
Southgate eyed for the United job - Telegraph
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It's going to be Poch or Ole. Southgate would be a disastrous appointment. Beaten by the only two decent teams we faced in Russia. And Croatia have a population half the size of London.
Folks still bitter about England at the World Cup 
Not convinced he's the right fit for United and as an England fan I hope and think he would opt to stay if approached anyway.
Not convinced he's the right fit for United and as an England fan I hope and think he would opt to stay if approached anyway.
Ahead of our Ole?! Blasphemy!
Nah thanks. Unless maybe if he wins both the upcoming Euros and World Cup.
No way he would turn down United for England - hopefully this is just bollocks though as he would be terrible.Folks still bitter about England at the World Cup
Not convinced he's the right fit for United and as an England fan I hope and think he would opt to stay if approached anyway.
I’m English and supported Southgate and the team. When it comes to looking for a new manager, reaching that semi final was no more impressive than Ole’s winning streak against cannon fodder.Folks still bitter about England at the World Cup
I think this is total nonsense and hope it’s total nonsense. Not sure how a paper would know our next target for a manager.
In my opinion it’s Solskjaer’s job if he does well enough or we go all out for Poch.
In my opinion it’s Solskjaer’s job if he does well enough or we go all out for Poch.
Simeone and Southgate both linked.
If this happens Woodward needs to be sectioned.
If this happens Woodward needs to be sectioned.
What impressed them.?
Getting an incredibly fortunate world cup draw? Or getting sacked by Middlesbrough?
Getting an incredibly fortunate world cup draw? Or getting sacked by Middlesbrough?
Media just making things up. They know Poch is our main (and possibly only) target at this point so they're just throwing names into the fray in order to keep the story ticking along.
He's been a fantastic manager for England. England are in the best shape we've maybe ever been in during my time watching.
I wouldn't want him at Utd though.
I wouldn't want him at Utd though.
This would be such a depressing appointment
And Simeone.
This.
The job as England manager is bigger than the job as manager of Manchester United, I can't see why he'd leave. He's improved everything with England, from the foundations at youth level to the style of play on the pitch, togetherness and media relations. He's proved he can handle the pressure of that environment and he's improved the players he's working with. If he had more time with the England players I think he'd be able to do even more.
Still unproven to an extent but certainly worthy of candidacy. People are creaming over a manager that has won sweet fa thus far but instantly dismiss a similar profiled manager. Weird.
There's basically no chance Southgate gets the United job. The 2% chance he has in in the hands of the decision makers losing their mind. Solskjaer or Pochettino will be United manager come the end of the season.
Not a surprise that they are being linked.
Can't imagine we are interested in either.
Can't imagine we are interested in either.
I'd have Southgate over someone like Simeone. Simeone's style of play is Mourinho 2.0!
The rivals would love this.
Yes it was my thread.. and never got a reason for locking it, other someone thought the idea of Southgate as a possibility was a stupid concept. I did ask. It never broke any rules.
I never thought threads were locked because an individual admin disagreed with an opinion. But that is what appeared to have happened.
Having said that it is not the first time I have suggested something unpopular that ends up being a thing. (Schneiderlin and Schweinstiger not a fit, Moyes incredulity as he was too negative to be a fit). Somehow because a newspaper is now writing about the possibility, there is some kudos?
In all honesty it was not rocket science. He is the kind of guy that would go through the club from top to bottom, and very much like Ole, give players a lift. He has tactical nous as shown in the World Cup, will take great interest in our youth, will embrace the club philosophy (he sets up England in that way) and I honestly think he is a real possibility. I certainly would not be down on him as quite a few seem to be.
Not only that we are being incredibly arrogant and conceited to think that Poch would just automatically down tools and come to United, with the Real job potentially coming up, plus he has a side he helped build with better players. I think it is interesting that so far it has gone quiet on whether Paul Mitchell, who has worked with Poch as former Spurs head of recruitment is coming to united as director of football. Pick him up and all the signs would be that Poch is pulling some strings at Old Trafford. But nothing has been signed and sealed on that.
However as I said in a previous thread, I would not be discounting Ole. I am amazed that with five wins in a row he has been given no carrot from above (he indicated such at the recent press conference).
People on here were idiotic to mock this idea when it was initially brought up. Southgate is very much the antithesis of Mourinho, and, like Ole, has an approach more more suited to modern players as well as the optimistic manner of a man yet to be broken by the weight of his own ego.
That said, Ole is a more experienenced manager and a club legend too. So if it's an either or, it's Ole. No question.
That said, Ole is a more experienenced manager and a club legend too. So if it's an either or, it's Ole. No question.
Locking your thread felt like a silly bit of power tripping at the time, even more so now.
He took Middlesbrough to European glory, won the world cup with England, and has managed the careers of some of the greatest players ever. Sign him up. Quality through and through. The man breeds success.
Don't know what to think on this one. Think I'll pass!
No thanks. Be a perfect yes man for The Glazers but not for me
Horrendous candidate and can only assume it's media BS
What's he ever done as a manager at club level? What's he done with England apart from not be as terrible as other managers? We lost to the first good team we played in the WC, just happened to get a great draw.
What's he ever done as a manager at club level? What's he done with England apart from not be as terrible as other managers? We lost to the first good team we played in the WC, just happened to get a great draw.
I am not sure that Ole wins in terms of experience, to be fair. Southgate has more experiences of English league management than Ole, albeit it bad. But he has clearly learnt from that and his experience in transforming the England side have to be respected. If Ole doesn't, in the end, show the tactical nous, he will need, then I would put Southgate up there, because he would embrace the United philosophy. We really don't need an ego manager who thinks the club should adapt to him.
Personally I would love to see Ole and Phelan continue to make a success and remain full time. At the time Fergie went I said on the official site that it was a travesty to bring Moyes in and get rid of all the backroom staff because we lost all continuity. Many years later, Woodward has decided that is the way to go to turn the results around. And it has worked. Don't underestimate the achievement of five wins in a row. It is not just the victories, it is the manner of them. Something we never saw under any manager since Fergie.
The next month should give a clear indication whether Ole and Phelan are up for carrying this forward. And if we continue to see an uplift, we should get a director of football and start now to build a recruitment strategy. Waiting till the summer is too late. We need to start moving way before then
International football management is a lot easier because you don't come across tactical gurus like Pep and Mourhino managing international teams hence it's easier for mediocre managers to stand out. Also, you don't come across too many top teams as well. Southgate has done well with England but he'd need to go into club managent and do something noticeable before even being considered. I felt the same when low was considered as a potential manager for us.
If you thought Mourinho and Van Gal were boring this would be a new level of shit
What tosh. What has Ole done at club level? Are managers not allowed to have failure and then grow. Southgate has. If you cannot see how Southgate has transformed the England side, by taking an interest in all levels of the set up, having decent tactical nous and actually playing form players then you are blind, old chap.
None of the favourites for the Man Utd job have won anything. Mourinho has won EVERYTHING, and look what happened there. So it is a bit silly to say that the candidate has to have 'done something' at club level. Unless you think that all the current obvious candidates are awful.
But happy with Ole?
You need less qualifications if you're an insider. Ole wouldn't even be considered if he didn't have history with us and he won't be considered if he doesn't get us into top 4 and if he does than that would definitely make him more qualified because he'd have guided a team 12 pts off the top 4 and in absolute dissary into the champions League.
Why do people actually believe this story?
As I've said in another post I'd only be happy if he gets us into 4th which would mean he's done something significant in club football.
Just had a wee check to see if I ever got a response to why they thread was locked. Still none. It clearly was someone being a bit silly.
I think the underlying reason they got rid of Mourinho is that Ed and the Glazers saw that after 5 years of terrible football, brand damage was well on its way. So they now want to continue the path of destruction?
They were speaking of this on Sunday Supplement this morning. They don't feel that Southgate would leave his Job atm to manage United, maybe in later years they say.
Another thing they said was, if they could persuade Poch to join he would have a 500 million kitty to spend on transfers. I think that Ole should be given some of this to spend now. We have a chance of top 4 finish and are in 2 cups, and we all know we are weak at the back and could do with a RW also.
This does not give Ole a fair crack of the whip if the club don't bring in at least 2 players this window.
Another thing they said was, if they could persuade Poch to join he would have a 500 million kitty to spend on transfers. I think that Ole should be given some of this to spend now. We have a chance of top 4 finish and are in 2 cups, and we all know we are weak at the back and could do with a RW also.
This does not give Ole a fair crack of the whip if the club don't bring in at least 2 players this window.
There will be quite a few fans who would agree that a manager who has won nothing is good enough for United. None of the shortlisted managers that we know of have won anything. I, personally, think we have to be openminded. I like all the candidates. My preference would be Ole and Phelan, if they show in the next month or six weeks that they are able to cope with the challenge of tackling the better teams in Europe.
Think that's a typo, they clearly meant Spurs are looking at Southgate.
I think there is a better chance of Southgate taking the United job than Poch coming. And I think that is why the England manager's name is being floated right now. I personally think United have a lot of work to do to persuade Poch that Old Trafford is the place for him.
Personally, I don't care. I would love it if Ole and Phelan were given the job. But I would not wait till the end of the season, because we need to start planning sooner rather than later for next season.