montpelier
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he's going round the fecking bend,Tweet
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You can see why this guy is a serial loser. He ‘bottles’ finals and silverware mostly because he lacks the ability to self reflect and be adaptive to the situation at hand.
Oh am I not winning this game? Well feck let’s just keep doing the exact same thing and if it doesn’t work it’s clearly the wind.
He’s really good at a very small scope. I’m glad we didn’t sign this idiot. It would have been very very frustrating to be teased with the idea of success but not actually having the intelligence to execute it. Very fitting for the Liverpool faithful
This. The wind is in head right now. This title race is far from over but let's enjoy the score.If the wind is coming from all directions wouldn't that mean it'd cancel itself out and there'd be no wind?
He actually handled himself pretty well overall in the post match interview to be fair. The interviewer seemed to be on a mission to antagonise him
...it was what, 8 years ago now? Then he got dominated by Pep in the Bundesliga as soon as he arrived. And basically resigned in shame after finishing 7th with Dortmund in his final season.I really don't like Klopp, but man you're talking about a bloke who has won two Bundesliga titles
So many managers just seem to get shirty very easily instead of just answering what could be a slightly interesting question. He's as bad as Jose for it though.Tweet
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His image in England, when he was at Dortmund, was so romantic.One highlight of his was accusing Heynckes of copying his tactics. He literally said „copying like the Chinese.“
He’s an asshole. Always been one. He’s both a bad winner and a sore loser.
Ok .. ? It's not like he's managed massive favourites. Pep had a better team and far greater resources than Klopp at Dortmund. Two league titles and a domestic cup in Germany would suggest he isn't a serial loser, would it not?...it was what, 8 years ago now? Then he got dominated by Pep in the Bundesliga as soon as he arrived. And basically resigned in shame after finishing 7th with Dortmund in his final season.
That's literally all he's ever won.
After all...Title.... Gone with the wind..
Yeah it is weird 'people don't like it' well don't fecking mention it then, you know it's going to be mocked in the press and lead you nowhere, so why bother?He says he knows people don't like him talking about the wind before he goes on to talk about the wind.
So he must know people laugh at his fecking stupid excuses, but he keeps making them anyway.
It's odd.
Klopp: Borussia Dortmund...it was what, 8 years ago now? Then he got dominated by Pep in the Bundesliga as soon as he arrived. And basically resigned in shame after finishing 7th with Dortmund in his final season.
That's literally all he's ever won.
Klopp: Borussia Dortmund
Fußball-Bundesliga: 2010/11, 2011/12.
DFB-Pokal: 2011/12.
DFL-Superkup: 2008.
Ole: Molde
Tippeligaen: 2011, 2012
Norwegian Football Cup: 2013
One is one of the best managers in the world, other put smiles on players faces...
No it isn't, it's nothing like that and you know it.So Klopp's last success came in 2011/12. That is ancient in today's footballing world. It's like assuming Roberto Di Matteo must be a good manager today because he won the UCL that season.
You're acting like he's just disappeared off the map since 11/12 when in reality he took a little break and then took over a Liverpool side which nobody could have expected to challenge for titles in the short term.
“Cheated”?"A little break"? He lost three Bundesliga in a row in spectacular fashion. First by 25 points, then 19, then by 33. He cheated the league for two seasons with his gimmick Gegenpress (which I'm sure was a really smart trick back in 2011), then the other managers caught on and that was that. He even had a little meltdown and went on a Keegan like rant about how Bayern were "copying" his tactics like "the Chinese".
He's on his fourth season with Liverpool now and this is the first time he's even close to challenging. Four years is short term? That's longer than Pep's entire Barca spell ffs. If he doesn't pull it off now, that's half a decade. Almost a dynasty.
Spectacular fashion? He was up against Bayern Munich, they completely boss the Bundesliga. Clearly it started to go sour towards the end at Dortmund (which can happen for any manager) but that doesn't undo the fantastic work he did there overall. Cheated the league? Managers only caught on after two seasons? Come on, what is this nonsense ffs. He built a very good team who won two titles and in his third season reached a CL final, he didn't cheat anything. All managers make stupid comments."A little break"? He lost three Bundesliga in a row in spectacular fashion. First by 25 points, then 19, then by 33. He cheated the league for two seasons with his gimmick Gegenpress (which I'm sure was a really smart trick back in 2011), then the other managers caught on and that was that. He even had a little meltdown and went on a Keegan like rant about how Bayern were "copying" his tactics like "the Chinese".
He's on his fourth season with Liverpool now and this is the first time he's even close to challenging. Four years is short term? That's longer than Pep's entire Barca spell ffs. If he doesn't pull it off now, that's half a decade. Almost a dynasty.
Fair enough on the number of Barca seasons. But those 4 seasons are widely considered a dynasty in the history of Barca. And yet that same number of seasons gets called "short term" when it comes to one of the biggest clubs in England? I guess some people really have fallen for the saintly media portrait of Klopp.“Cheated”?
Re Pep’s time at Barca, it was 4 seasons (08/09, 09/10, 10/11, 11/12)...Klopp has been at Liverpool less than 4 (most of 15/16, 16/17, 17/18 and now 18/19).
Lastly if you have a link to that Chinese quote please post because that is fecking hilarious
Fair enough on the number of Barca seasons. But those 4 seasons are widely considered a dynasty in the history of Barca. And yet that same number of seasons gets called "short term" when it comes to one of the biggest clubs in England? I guess some people really have fallen for the saintly media portrait of Klopp.
Here is a link to the Chinese quote with the aptly named headline:
Losing coach accuses rival of 'Chinese' copying
https://www.thelocal.de/20130302/48281
Or they scammed you lotI don’t know tbh, they just rubbed a mask over my face and left it there for 10 minutes.
I'm not saying he's bad but I think you and many in the media are massively underrating the size of Liverpool as a club and what should be achievable with those resources. To have 0 Premier League titles is criminally incompetent and not indicative of what that club can do. Mounting 1 title challenge within 4 seasons (while sacrificing the cups to do so and having just won £150m from a lottery ticket) is perfectly reasonable and not this massive unexpected genius feat that the media makes it out to be.This shit won't wash when I literally said I do not like Klopp. He annoys me, I don't think he's a 'saint', but he's clearly a good coach.
4 seasons to take a team from outside the CL spots to a genuine title challenge is not a long period of time. Liverpool are a big club but haven't won a title in the PL era and when he took over were in pretty dire straits, with a lot of work needed on the squad, he also took over mid season. I don't think you'll find many Liverpool fans complaining about him, which is generally a good sign.
It's a case of you clearly don't like the man, but in my opinion you're allowing that to mask the fact that clearly he's a good manager.
I think he's a motivator more than a great tactician. He got everyone on his side and fired up last season. In terms of football, he set them to play very positively, press hard, win the ball back and run. Lots of attack from the fullbacks and quick fluidity from the forwards.I'm not saying he's bad but I think you and many in the media are massively underrating the size of Liverpool as a club and what should be achievable with those resources. To have 0 Premier League titles is criminally incompetent and not indicative of what that club can do. Mounting 1 title challenge within 4 seasons (while sacrificing the cups to do so and having just won £150m from a lottery ticket) is perfectly reasonable and not this massive unexpected genius feat that the media makes it out to be.
No one can deny that he (or whoever is really pulling the strings on such matters at Liverpool) has bought well, and that will take you far on player quality alone. But his tactical prowess is massively overrated from a short stint 7-8 years ago when he genuinely brought something new to the table. Something that has subsequently been copied and is now commonplace.
He's paid the world record transfer twice you know.Ok .. ? It's not like he's managed massive favourites. Pep had a better team and far greater resources than Klopp at Dortmund. Two league titles and a domestic cup in Germany would suggest he isn't a serial loser, would it not?
He's managed Mainz, Dortmund and took over a broken Liverpool squad and has made them title challengers against a juggernaut City side with almost limitless resources, it's hardly him being a serial loser is it? I don't think reaching two CL finals is being a serial loser either, even if you do lose them you have to do a hell of a lot of winning against great sides to get there.
Clearly he is a top coach who has previously won titles and I don't see anything to suggest he won't win more going forward, still a pretty young manager. It just feels a little ridiculous to be calling a man who has won league titles a serial loser because he's lost a couple of CL finals where his team were a clear underdog.
Christ, this has got me defending the man. Look, I think he's a bit of a tit and he blames dumb shit like the wind, but clearly he's a wanker who also happens to be a great coach.
His point still stands, Klopp was massively outgunned by Pep while he was at Dortmund, and concering his Liverpool tenure, since Klopp joined Liverpool, City have spent around 525m, Liverpool 384m. Yes Klopp has still spent a lot, but the City side Pep took over was superior to the side Klopp took over and since then Guardiola has significantly outspent him. It will be impressive if Klopp manages to win the premier league this season against this City side and a world class manager like Guardiola.He's paid the world record transfer twice you know.