Kasper
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Very fair post match comments, I don't know why people on here are sore towards him after victory?
Did we watch the same games?Hardly his fault. Kehrer and Buffon had Karius level blunders there and they still had gone through if it wasn't for a very hard VAR decision in the 93rd minute. And that's not taken into consideration that they missed an incredible amount of chances in the first half. No offense but this game should've been a 3:0 at half time not a 1:2 and there's not much Tuchel could've done about that.
I understand that United supporters are euphoric right now but this downplaying irks me. PSG was the far, far better team throughout both legs, their first match against you was arguably the best display in the tournament. I'm all for being happy that you've gone through and I hope you are going far now but a little sense of reality would be nice. Tuchel has had PSG play some amazing football and if it wasn't for only one of two serious mistakes or an at least debatable referee call in the 93rd minute, this forum would be on about what a great coach he is.
I think he was disingenuous to say they did not deserve to go out. Maybe they were unlucky considering the balance of the tie, but there was no excuse to lose 3-1 to our largely second team with the talent they have. On that basis, yes they deserved to go out.Very fair post match comments, I don't know why people on here are sore towards him after victory?
I don't know what you are talking about, all ManUtd had to do was to field 11 players. Rest it was all on PSG, whether to win the game or gift wrap it for us.If it's fair to say that Tuchel outclassed Ole in the first leg then it's fair to say that Ole outclassed Tuchel in the second leg.
For all the things about PSG gifting us goals, two of their three goals against Utd were also due to clear mistakes. First by Matic and second by Bailly.
clearly the ramblings of a bitter man.I don't know what you are talking about, all ManUtd had to do was to field 11 players. Rest it was all on PSG, whether to win the game or gift wrap it for us.
No manager out classed anyone. The two games were decided by mistakes and injuries to key players.If it's fair to say that Tuchel outclassed Ole in the first leg then it's fair to say that Ole outclassed Tuchel in the second leg.
For all the things about PSG gifting us goals, two of their three goals against Utd were also due to clear mistakes. First by Matic and second by Bailly.
Tuchel outlcasses Ole in the second half. Or maybe it was us losing 2 attackers at the same time, and not being unable to manager with it. I didn't blame Ole back then.If it's fair to say that Tuchel outclassed Ole in the first leg then it's fair to say that Ole outclassed Tuchel in the second leg.
For all the things about PSG gifting us goals, two of their three goals against Utd were also due to clear mistakes. First by Matic and second by Bailly.
That's what I'm saying. People were saying that Tuchel outclassed Ole after the first leg without even looking at other things. Only fair to say the vice versa now.No manager out classed anyone. The two games were decided by mistakes and injuries to key players.
I still liked the fact that from a tactical standpoint, we prevented them from playing centrally which cut a lot of passes to Mbappé who was isolated or forced to go wide.Tuchel outlcasses Ole in the second half. Or maybe it was us losing 2 attackers at the same time, and not being unable to manager with it. I didn't blame Ole back then.
Ole definitely didn't outclass Tuchel yesterday. PSG were playing much better. 2 mistakes and a wonder penalty, while they had 2 very good chances at finishing the tie (one saved from De Gea, the other from De Gea and Smalling while they hit the post). Our first shot in the second half was Dalot's.
Did i miss anything? other than his pathetic attempt at appealing for a penalty in injury time?Most of his post match reaction was reasonable
PSG players blamed themselves mostly there were illuminating reactions from Silva and Marquinhos
Neymar is a dick and should get a ban now imo
He said that it is a disgrace that 4 people who know nothing about football make these decisions, and they should feck off.Did i miss anything? other than his pathetic attempt at appealing for a penalty in injury time?
And he'd very much like to be banned, wouldn't he? His sisters birthday is coming up soon...
The only disgrace is his on field antics and his lack of professionalism when he fecks off to celebrate his sisters birthday.He said that it is a disgrace that 4 people who know nothing about football make these decisions, and they should feck off.
He needs to be banned for a couple of matches. Drogba got 4 matches after Ovrebo match.
He's Robbie Rotten's stand in.fecking hell, he's basically the spitting image of Robbie Rotten.
He has a 2 year contract and i dont think a better manager is available for them. He will probably get another year, if he fails, his contract will be up anyway. That was a big blow for himCould be wrong but don't PSG usually give their managers two year cycles? As poor as last night was for them I think Tuchel will be given opportunity to make amends next season and try to reach semi finals at least.
Yeah I remember the Barcelona fiasco happened in Emery's first year and he still got another chance in CL. Blanc was there for 3 years and got another two seasons after Chelsea knocked them out of quarters in 2014.He has a 2 year contract and i dont think a better manager is available for them. He will probably get another year, if he fails, his contract will be up anyway. That was a big blow for him
Although with Tuchel it depends on his relationship with their sporting director. They have some serious conflict over transfer targets. Tuchel is someone that can resign or get sacked in terms of internal differences if he doesnt feel the backing.Yeah I remember the Barcelona fiasco happened in Emery's first year and he still got another chance in CL. Blanc was there for 3 years and got another two seasons after Chelsea knocked them out of quarters in 2014.
PSG aren't a knee jerk club for sacking managers at least even when they flop in europe.
You don’t think they’d try to go after Zidane ?He has a 2 year contract and i dont think a better manager is available for them. He will probably get another year, if he fails, his contract will be up anyway. That was a big blow for him
Yeah the revisionism of that first game is incredible. They had good 15 minutes in which they scored a couple of goals. The immediate reaction was the same, i.e. incredible display by PSG etc. They were good and they did beat us fair and square but we were not really completely killed in that game. Also, last night we won fair and square too.Did we watch the same games?
First half of the 1st leg was even, United lost two important players through injury. PSG should have been down to 10 men, then that guy scores from a set piece. They played well after that no doubt and nicked a 2nd when we tried to push for the equalizer, but best display in the tournament? Not a chance.
There was nothing wrong with their tactics, they lost the game because of individual errors.If this guy is such a manager genius, as many on here claims, why did they keep attacking when they could just have kept the ball and defended?
Could easily have been through to the quarter finals.
I’m on the same boat as you. Aside from him trying to argue that because the shot wasn’t going towards the target so it shouldn’t be a pen (makes no sense because then people could just hand the ball if it’s not going on target), he didn’t say anything particularly inflammatory. Seems like a decent guy, and he’s clearly a good manager, PSG pass and movement and the way they win the ball back is impressive (if we didn’t have Ole I’d actually like us to look his way).Very fair post match comments, I don't know why people on here are sore towards him after victory?
Yeah. For the amount of shit Ole got after that game he should get credit for the win last night. In the first leg they basically scored with almost every chance they had, we did that last night.That's what I'm saying. People were saying that Tuchel outclassed Ole after the first leg without even looking at other things. Only fair to say the vice versa now.
They wanted to get to 2-2 and make the last 10 minutes more comfortable? Personally I'd have got Cavani on with ten minutes left, 1-2 and being one goal from elimination is too risky.If this guy is such a manager genius, as many on here claims, why did they keep attacking when they could just have kept the ball and defended?
Could easily have been through to the quarter finals.
Was chatting to a mate of mine about that. PSG played right into our counter attacking hands, in the end even aiding us by "gifting" us all 3 goals (poor Gigi )If this guy is such a manager genius, as many on here claims, why did they keep attacking when they could just have kept the ball and defended?
Could easily have been through to the quarter finals.
Nothing wrong with their tactics if they wanted to entertain and score goals, lots of wrongs with it if they want to get to the final of the toughest tournament on the planet.There was nothing wrong with their tactics, they lost the game because of individual errors.
Yeah, not watched much of him myself, and i don't want him to go full Mourinho, but slightly more cynical, and they'd been through with ease.Was chatting to a mate of mine about that. PSG played right into our counter attacking hands, in the end even aiding us by "gifting" us all 3 goals (poor Gigi )
But in the end, I think, depending on where you stand on the topic, I think Tuchel is a bit like Pep in that he lacks pragmatism - he always wants to attack. I could possibly be wrong, as I admittedly haven't watched a lot of Tuchel. I know he changes formations and tactics, but I don't think he's ever been a "defensive" coach who would shut up shop.
But either way yeah - even if I possibly am wrong about Tuchel, he played it a wee bit naive yesterday. His players obviously didn't help 1 bit.
Yeah, if they gave us more of the ball, and asked us to attack them, Mbappe and AdM on the counter could have done some real damage on us. But that's not the way they play, or how their owners would want them to play, mind.Yeah, not watched much of him myself, and i don't want him to go full Mourinho, but slightly more cynical, and they'd been through with ease.
How hard is it to be better than a Man Utd who was missing 10 starters? And lose 1-3 at home to a midfield of Fred Perreira and McTominay(what is the combined first team mins played by this 3 this season)Hardly his fault. Kehrer and Buffon had Karius level blunders there and they still had gone through if it wasn't for a very hard VAR decision in the 93rd minute. And that's not taken into consideration that they missed an incredible amount of chances in the first half. No offense but this game should've been a 3:0 at half time not a 1:2 and there's not much Tuchel could've done about that.
I understand that United supporters are euphoric right now but this downplaying irks me. PSG was the far, far better team throughout both legs, their first match against you was arguably the best display in the tournament. I'm all for being happy that you've gone through and I hope you are going far now but a little sense of reality would be nice. Tuchel has had PSG play some amazing football and if it wasn't for only one of two serious mistakes or an at least debatable referee call in the 93rd minute, this forum would be on about what a great coach he is.
How hard is it to be better than a Man Utd who was missing 10 starters? And lose 1-3 at home to a midfield of Fred Perreira and McTominay(what is the combined first team mins played by this 3 this season)
Tuchel is very overrated, Many people just like the idea of a coach who complicates simple concept like Tuchel like Sarri. Football is still largely a simple game
This isn't the first high profile choke job by Tuchel. 3-1 to 3-4, 2-0 to 3-3(at home)
He brought Kehrer, Bernat Buffon and Chupo-Moting into PSG the way be bought Castro Toprak, Mor, into Dortmund. One thing I am glad for is that Bayern did not appoint him
That we agree on. The three Guardiola years were enough for me.One thing I am glad for is that Bayern did not appoint him
Exactly, you can pin the blame for any goal ever on someone. Unless you’re a relegation threatened PL team coming to Old Trafford and you just start scoring screamers, that is.If it's fair to say that Tuchel outclassed Ole in the first leg then it's fair to say that Ole outclassed Tuchel in the second leg.
For all the things about PSG gifting us goals, two of their three goals against Utd were also due to clear mistakes. First by Matic and second by Bailly.