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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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CA_vampire

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I do strangely think history will treat her kindly. Took on the impossible job and despite what anyone said, she managed to get a deal on the table, which was considered the hardest bit of the negotiations. Regardless whether the MPs agreed with it or not, good or bad.

Cameron meanwhile shirked responsibility.
I don't agree with this. Cameron understood that he messed up and he quit. Why should he try to implement something he didn't agree with? That's more honest and honorable that what May is doing. Of course we can still blame Cameron for the decision to have a referendum, but his decision to quit was the right one.
 

Smores

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Why do you think there could be amendments or a long extension?
Amendments to the motion called next week not the withdrawal agreement. My guess is May will go and a soft brexit compromise will come out of resulting action. The EU want us to go that direction as it only results in changes to the political declaration (i think).

The only options that might pass parliament are second ref and soft brexit right now so it's time they were taken seriously.
 

Adebesi

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Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth.
I do strangely think history will treat her kindly. Took on the impossible job and despite what anyone said, she managed to get a deal on the table, which was considered the hardest bit of the negotiations. Regardless whether the MPs agreed with it or not, good or bad.

Cameron meanwhile shirked responsibility.
A lot hinges on the next few weeks.
 

Smores

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I do strangely think history will treat her kindly. Took on the impossible job and despite what anyone said, she managed to get a deal on the table, which was considered the hardest bit of the negotiations. Regardless whether the MPs agreed with it or not, good or bad.

Cameron meanwhile shirked responsibility.
What exactly was difficult about getting a deal on the table? She set her red lines and the EU returned with what that meant.

I think she's about to go anywhere. There's nothing left for her to do
 

Paul the Wolf

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Amendments to the motion called next week not the withdrawal agreement. My guess is May will go and a soft brexit compromise will come out of resulting action. The EU want us to go that direction as it only results in changes to the political declaration (i think).

The only options that might pass parliament are second ref and soft brexit right now so it's time they were taken seriously.
Yes it would have to be the political declaration. The problem is that I don't see parliament agreeing on anything, whatever it is, everyone's got an angle and there are about five or six different ones. Plus I think time is up, decision to be made in the next few days.
 

Fluctuation0161

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Cheers mate, I am glad we agree.

A Prime Minister should take responsibility for the situations, not pass the buck. If she cannot find a solution, then she should resign, not blame others. She is being paid to do a job, nobody forced her to take this job. If she can't do the job, she should retire.
Don't forget that she is an MP for a party. She's just the 'fall guy'. Taking the hit for the team. Everyone will blame her and the party goes on.
 

caid

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I do strangely think history will treat her kindly. Took on the impossible job and despite what anyone said, she managed to get a deal on the table, which was considered the hardest bit of the negotiations. Regardless whether the MPs agreed with it or not, good or bad.

Cameron meanwhile shirked responsibility.
I dont. She took on a difficult job and failed miserably in it. She set a bunch of contradictory, impossible red lines and the EU put together a treaty that satisfied it. Her red lines resulted in the biggest government defeat in the history of what must be the oldest parliament in the world. Did she even have a majority in her own party for it?
 

Klopper76

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I feel like we're going to accidentally fall off of the cliff with a No Deal at the end of next week.
 

VP89

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Unconfirmed but widely reported that Corbyn walked out of oppositions leaders meeting because Chuka was there. Unhelpful sod :lol:
 

RORY65

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This is embarrassing for someone who has previously defending meeting certain people/groups by saying you have to meet people you disagree with and only earlier today was asking if May was finally prepared to compromise to get through this crisis.
 

JPRouve

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I'm really liking the SNP and particularly Ian Blackford. I know they have their own longer-term agenda, but on Brexit they've been spot-on.
From the little I know, they seem to be a decent party. If I could I would vote for them.
 

That'sHernandez

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Yes! :lol:

Don't worry, Chuka won't be in a party again by the time his next round of media appearances comes around. Wouldn't want to have to answer questions on policies or donors.
Fiddling while Rome burns. He's no better than Rees-Mogg.
 

RORY65

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Was the cleaner allowed to stay in the room?
So the appropriate response was to walk out? Weird he didn't do that with Hamas or the IRA but Chuka Umuna is clearly a step too far with 9 days to sort out this absolute shit show.
 

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'Unfortunately as the house repeatedly voted down my amazing deal time and time again we weren't able to carry out the will of the British older generation. Please don't blame me for never changing the same shitty deal I kept bringing back, blame them for not accepting garbage. And don't blame my party for spearheading the biggest legal undertaking in our history without a plan to begin with, that's definitely a sensible thing to do, instead focus on Corbyn being friends with terrorists who will eat your children with a side of curvy EU bananas.'
I said a lie. Not an accurate narrative of what is happening nd May's blame game