Semantics? Saying he clearly stated he had no intention of staying is wildly different to stating that he doesn’t know if he’ll renew and nothing’s been decided.
Herrera confirms his departure
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He said he doesn't think he'll renew but its not decided yet.
I man come on, if he's saying that 13 months ago and now this week leaves? It's pretty obvious his mind was all but made up.
I took the quote, put it through google translate, and this is what it says:
Now, how is your Spanish? Good? If so, let us know where the translation went wrong.
If you don’t know Spanish, then why are you making up your own translation? He did not say he didn’t think he’d stay.
Your second point may be correct, but personally I try not to assume I know what happens behind the scenes. Even if it were true, though, that doesn’t give us licence to make up fake quotes, does it now?
Well of course he is going to see out the year, he has to unless the club terminates his contract and admits he doesn't know if he'll stay beyond the contract. Confirms a deal is on the deal and matter of fact states its not decided yet, because well that's just common sense that the club could of bent over for him and parted cheeks and gave him what he wanted, they didn't and rightly so.
That's pretty much what I took from his statement personally.
You claimed that he said he didn’t intend to stay (or that he didn’t think he’d stay) and you’ve been proven wrong on that point. That’s the only thing I was bringing up, the rest you mention I haven’t touched on at all.
So stop arguing, your claim about what he said is demonstrably wrong.
Not really, I mean if he loved the club as he professed, leaving wouldn't of even been on his mind 13 months ago...but it was. It quite clearly was a very real option to him and there is also a chance he was just being professional and giving lip service about (something he is overly fond of doing anyway) "nothing is decided", which seems most likely.
Put it this way, he had a year left on his deal... if he said something quite insulting to the club with a year remaining do you think he would of played often? He had to keep professional, to still get appearances to essentially sell himself to other clubs.
It's not arguing at all, if your honest and think about his statement it screams he had no interest in staying.
I mean look at the likes of Evra who would of stayed no matter what at United but for family issues. For all the abuse Young gets he took a pay cut to stay a final year. Making quotes about possibly leaving with 1 year remaining tells me their heart isn't in the club.
I. Am. Not. Talking. About. These. Things. At. All.
You can infer, or mind-read, or read between the lines, or use hindsight and tell me what’s behind his comments, that’s fine. You might be wrong, though, seeing as we know next to nothing about what happened behind the scenes.
But, even if you’re totally correct about everything, you still totally misrepresented what he actually said. That is the ONLY thing I commented on.
If you still don’t get it, then whatever. I’ve spent far too much time on this nonsense.
OK, Bye bye now
OK, Bye bye now
You're right. I'd go as far as to say, it is going to be a problem for at least a season or two even after we let him go. Because United hand is clear for everyone to see. Players will know the kind of ridiculous money we're willing to shell out. And it will take a few transfer seasons' worth of negotiations to convince players otherwise.
It's possible yeah, all the more reasons to get rid of Sanchez as the earliest time possible.
The point remains that it is shambles for woodward, you don't let good players run down their contracts and leave on a free. Herrera may not be world class, but he's a type of player that excels in a well structured team. At worst you make some money for his market value if you can't agree on a deal.
I felt the rumours were true that he was signing for PSG when it surfaced. His social media post when we knocked PSG out was quite tame as compared to some of the others who didn't play.
I liked Ander but I feel like he knew all along he was leaving.
I liked Ander but I feel like he knew all along he was leaving.
Wish he was staying; there are plenty on front of him whom I'd rather see leave. However, he isn't irreplaceable.
Good luck Ander; thanks for all your efforts.
Good luck Ander; thanks for all your efforts.
I will miss him. Hate Woodward for treating the most hard worker so poorly and also losing the fee to reuse.
How did he let him?
Literally what the actual feck did you expect Woodward do? Put a gun to his head, force him to sign? Maybe kidnap his wife and kids and release upon signing the contract.
He offered him a deal... 2 years prior to it running out, which is standard practice.
That's some serious stretching to absolve Ander of blame and place it at Ed's door.
Ed has made mistakes, not here.
Lets actually try blame him for stuff he is at fault for yeah?
You give him what he deserves. This near 30 policy is bullshit. It has to be taken up on player to player basis.
This is not a club anymore, but a business who doesnt care .
Been a great servant in an atrocious time for the club. His contract should have been sorted out over a year ago. This is on Ed.
What the hell are you on about? Did you read my entire comment or just picked out part of a statement and run wild to your imaginations?
There's no point having a discussion when you mischaracterize what I said in a post with only three statements.
feck Ole for giving the shit cnuts a contract and not Herrera.
You think it was his decision? The cnut Herrera read all the posts praising him and believed his own hype, asking for transfer wages that befit world class players. He apparently turned down 150K, almost doubling his current wages. In the end it was all about the money
I don't think it was that, this is probably a direct consequence of having Sanchez on those ridiculous wages while contributing to feck all and why wouldn't he ?
He was offered contract and rejected it.
Or possibly his contract running out and having the chance to play somewhere else.
If he didn't want to sign he should have been sold last summer. Having players in the last year of their contracts is no good for them or the team. Where is the incentive to give a feck if things go badly?
Wage demands are a mute point at a club paying Sanchez 500k a week. Anyone can reasonably demand whatever they want.
Sanchez has earned it. He worked to have the reputation of being one of the best player in the world although he's declined but who's Herrera? What has he achieved to have got the nerves to take us to ransom? This is for the best. All the shitty players are leaving one by One.
Say what now
? Sanchez was never one of the best players in the world at any point. One of the most overrated players I've ever seen at Arsenal, Herrera is well within his right to to ask for more money as he's been an important for us. The club was well within its right to say "no".Important for who? A supposedly creative midfielder turned into a workhorse after failing in his role? Wonders shall never end.Say what now
He could've asked for a million a week if he wanted to but he's been nothing but a rotational player here. LVG and Mourinho never fully trusted him and its possible this was the reason the club delayed opening contract talks, I don't know. The club handled it poorly but all the same he wasn't worth the wages he was asking for IMO.
I wish it was the club drawing the line on big salaries.
But it's just same all negligence concerning renewing contracts on time and I bet big salaries will just continue. They drawed the line on wrong player.
But it's just same all negligence concerning renewing contracts on time and I bet big salaries will just continue. They drawed the line on wrong player.
He was considered just that after his 2010 world cup performances. Surely you remember. That WC earned him a move to Barcelona.Say what now
For us Man United, the 6th team in the PL, who are we all of sudden to act like Herrera was not that important for us ?
International tournaments are never a good barometer of the quality of a player. He became the best player of an average Arsenal team, not a very impressive. I don't blame him for those wages, I blame our club, we'll pay this for a while for every big name we'll try to acquire now
They probably should've sold him after choosing to notify him by mail that they were activating his extension. If you don't value him, move him on.
He was killing it in Italy before and after the WC, and signed for Barca in the summer of 2011. Everyone on here was waxing lyrical about him and wanted him. How old were you at the time?
That's what I fear too, Sanchez has fecked us up big time. It's not just about Herrera, it will be for every player with reputation we'll try to sign now and specially without CL
He's the reason we're in 6th.
For those wages ? I'm not so sure about that, because it's not just about one player earning, it's about the chain of events allowing a contract like that can create.
Herrera is the reason we're 6th ? Are you serious ?
Yeah. If he didn't fail in the role he was signed, we wouldn't be languishing for years. He's part of the mess
"Herrera is the reason" and "he's part of the mess" are two very things my friend