It’s her married name apparentlySuch a nice traditional Dutch name too
WWC19 | Final: USA v Netherlands
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Nice effort from NZ
The Dutch coach looks angry as anything!
Yeah, I suspected as much. I think she used to use her maiden name as well.
Janssen, that was it. Which is incidentally the most Dutch last name ever.
New gambling low for me. Done first goal scorer here.
Dutch look much better as expected but NZ defending well and 2 brilliant efforts themselves.
Dutch look much better as expected but NZ defending well and 2 brilliant efforts themselves.
Bloodworth - should have scored that.
At the moment it feels like Netherlands have the better individual players, but some of their defending has been poor. New Zealand will be happier with that half.
At the moment it feels like Netherlands have the better individual players, but some of their defending has been poor. New Zealand will be happier with that half.
What a save!
Netherlands lucky there, good save though.
Gregorious 
busy player but looks about as much use as Dirk Kuyt
busy player but looks about as much use as Dirk KuytHow is this still goalless?
Martens is a football player.
What was the best game of the tournament so far? It's just my superficial first opinion, but it seems the overall quality this time hasn't hit past levels yet. The games I've seen have been a bit awkward to watch as almost all goals kind of came out of nowhere and mostly the teams didn't actually look threatening in possession.
oh come on...
Could be 3-3
I think the women's game would benefit from a slightly smaller pitch.
What happened to Groenen?
I thought she played well - surprised she went off
Oi!Gregorious
edit: nevermind though you said Kirk Duyt. I agree Dirk Kuyt is a useless tit.
Smaller goals, definitely.
Woman’s football always impresses me with the quality on display, right up until they take a crack at goal and the keeper starts flailing helplessly at fairly central shots.
Which is different to, say, hockey where the women’s keepers look absolutely quality. Guarding a much smaller goal.
Indeed.
Regarding the smaller pitch there was actually a New Zealand attack right now where their attacker had to cover quite some distance to the goal, but was so knackered when she got there, should could barely get a shot off. That's why the pitch should be smaller.
'bout time
Unlucky NZ
get in!!
1-0!!
Some girl with a pony tail!!!!
1-0!!
Some girl with a pony tail!!!!
New Zealand so unlucky to come away from that empty handed, that’s football for you.
Decent watch bar the finishing. Unsure how there was only 1 goal. Thought Holland looked pretty good considering it’s the first game of the Comp, they’ll improve a lot as it goes on.
Think England vs Scotland was the best so far, a lot of quality in both sides.
Think the knockout stages games will be better in general, mostly one team is attacking and the other one is only defending so far.
I quite enjoyed watching the Netherlands game.
Less diving, less pretending to be hurt and the technical ability wasnt bad at all. Miedema and Martens looked technically less awkward than Lukaku sometimes does for example.
Less diving, less pretending to be hurt and the technical ability wasnt bad at all. Miedema and Martens looked technically less awkward than Lukaku sometimes does for example.
The relief on the Dutchies faces at the end there...
Congrats to them. Hope they improve the next few games though.
Congrats to them. Hope they improve the next few games though.
Only got off work to watch the last fifteen mins. Disappointed not to see Jackie Groenen, hope she’s not injured.
The Dutch again showed they can handle the ball and pass it well, but that they struggle a bit with tearing down a good defense. Great for them that they managed in the end against an impressively sturdy NZ side. They might need it, as Canada is going to prove a tough match for them, I think.
The Dutch again showed they can handle the ball and pass it well, but that they struggle a bit with tearing down a good defense. Great for them that they managed in the end against an impressively sturdy NZ side. They might need it, as Canada is going to prove a tough match for them, I think.
Yeah it seems unfair they play on regulation pitches, but then when you watch the US team or any other quality side, they seem to be fine. Maybe it’s just the fitness levels.
I’d be more inclined to agree with you if there was a problem of to much/easy goals. After watching Netherlands beat New Zealand 1-0 (barely), Cameroun concede one against Canada yesterday and Japan draw goallessly with Argentine, it’s more like even big favorites are hard pressed to find goals against the smaller teams.
Yeah. That does undermine my theory. Would be curious to know how the save % of female keepers compares with men. The gulf between them does seem a lot bigger than it is between outfield players.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48586217
Beeb story on the relative strength of the women’s international and club games. Shows why the US women have been so dominant. Title 9 baby!
Beeb story on the relative strength of the women’s international and club games. Shows why the US women have been so dominant. Title 9 baby!
I think that's mostly a training/technical thing though rather than reach. I don't think anyone's bothered by the very occasional shot that goes high in the top corner, the striker deserves that. It tends to be the handling/judgment errors that lets them down. I put that down to the fact that until recently most of them were amateurs, and most of the coaching was done by non-specialist amateurs. It's changing though as more teams go pro/semipro, there haven't been many goals scored on keeper errors this World Cup.
The downside to changing goal sizes would be that the women's game in most of the world and most teams even in England etc already struggles to get pitches/stadia. Making it different to the men's game could easily make a difficult situation with access worse.
In any case, it takes football back to its roots - those goal sizes were defined when the average man was roughly the same height as the average woman is today.
Yeah, last point is a very good one. I’ve heard arguments that the goals for men’s football should be bigger, for exactly that reason. But, like you say, having different pitches/goals for men and women’s football makes no sense, practically.
There's got to be a player named Matilda in this Tournament for Jonathan Pearce to shoutout.
MATILDA!!
MATILDA!!
Sweden looking good so far here. Just need that final ball.
I’m enjoying watching the nice touches and skill, without the diving and theatrics.
For all of their possession Sweden have been awful