Sarri will change that. Pjanic has plenty of flair, he's been great and one of the most underestimated players around while playing under a manager that never enhanced his strenghts. Sarri made Jorginho look like a great player and Pjanic is twice the player
Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56
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On standard players I would agree but for superstar players we've been blown out of the water by PSG (Mbappe & neymar) and Barcelona (Coutinho & Dembele). Madrid paid more for Hazard than we did for Pogba and Juve have paid high prices for Higuain and Ronaldo on par with what we paid for Pogba and Lukaku.
These are exceptions not the rule. And there is a particular context for these moves too, De Ligt is a standard player in a standard context, he is comparable to Arthur or even this summer like Jovic.
Edit: Just to be clear, 3 of the players that you mentioned are linked to the same transfer.
There is still hope. If De Ligt signs for Juventus I stand to make £275 and I’m an absolute jinx.
Failed medical coming right up!
Failed medical coming right up!
I’m highly surprised and disappointed.
So? Is he coming?
If reports are to be believed we offered him 400k a week, which tells us a lot
Read the first sentence again
Gutted we didn't get him but just hope it was more than one thing than Raiola which stopped us trying.
Oh well, I still haven’t seen a pic of him in a Juve kit yet and until i do I’ll assume the jet was actually at a private airport near Manchester and he was wumming the Italians
Yeah he is the player than makes me absolutely sick to my guts we missed out on top 4.
Really stings we just accepted he was going to join Barca rather than rivalled Juve for him.
Didn't help he has that snake for an agent who got our back up with the Pogba stuff.
Only a matter of time.
If we had signed Ronaldo last year we would have signed De ligt this year. And that is what we should have done, but...
...It's a strange theory.
Cry me a river. Italy is as competitive as Scotland nowadays
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Juve fans chanting Raiola’s name when de Ligt came in.
What a strange understanding of football they have down there.
What a strange understanding of football they have down there.
says who? that's your opinion based only on your personal bias and saying that is like the scottish league shows it. For me and more importantly according to UEFA rankings, putting serie A on par with Ligue 1 or below Bundesliga is a joke.
Technically Serie A is behind EPL and La Liga, tactically is on par if not above any other of the top 3.
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It's a reenactment, friend. Based on a true story. And the truth hurts, doesn't it?
With the rumours that he is to play and learn from Chiellini I thought that maybe a thread title like “Teenage defender to be groomed by older man” might be apt.
Or maybe not
Or maybe not
I love it how you lambast my opinion and than state yours like its a fact
I suggest you simply search Google and see the different statistic based rankings or uefa coefficient ratings. If you remove PSG and Juv, Ligue 1 is ahead.
Looks like Ronaldo convinced him enough. We human like to feel wanted and appreciate. Convince and sell your club. As the club for the permission to call and talk to the player. Ronaldo took the chance to convince De Ligt on the pitch. Ronaldo work as Juventus Dof on the pitch.
Maybe it was fate. If Ronaldo and Juventus didn’t meet Ajax in the semi ch.league. I doubt Ronaldo would take a phone call to convince De Ligt. “Hi bro. Come to Juventus. We are a really good team now, but with you in the team. We will be closer to win the champion league. “
Like the movie Ocean Eleven and most area in our life. If you want a person with some top expertise to work for you. You have to convince them. Make them feel wanted and appreciate. Let them know your goal and plan. The great team and teammates he will join. And believe and trust.
I didn’t know what exactly Ronaldo said to De Ligt. But psychologically its about : Come join us and convincing.
So beside money, salary and high contract. If you can convince peoples enough. It will be big chance they will work with you. Feeling wanted and welcome.
Ronaldo didn’t want to let a chance to convince a potential really good teammate to run away from him. Take the chance when he had. And i think its one of the biggest reason why De Ligt join Juventus, beside others reasons.
Maybe it was fate. If Ronaldo and Juventus didn’t meet Ajax in the semi ch.league. I doubt Ronaldo would take a phone call to convince De Ligt. “Hi bro. Come to Juventus. We are a really good team now, but with you in the team. We will be closer to win the champion league. “
Like the movie Ocean Eleven and most area in our life. If you want a person with some top expertise to work for you. You have to convince them. Make them feel wanted and appreciate. Let them know your goal and plan. The great team and teammates he will join. And believe and trust.
I didn’t know what exactly Ronaldo said to De Ligt. But psychologically its about : Come join us and convincing.
So beside money, salary and high contract. If you can convince peoples enough. It will be big chance they will work with you. Feeling wanted and welcome.
Ronaldo didn’t want to let a chance to convince a potential really good teammate to run away from him. Take the chance when he had. And i think its one of the biggest reason why De Ligt join Juventus, beside others reasons.
Great buy from Juve in all honesty. I think they might even win the Serie A with him in the squad next year.
It's obvious that De Ligt was the caf's favorite... He is a great CB but do you think there's another defender with better potential?
There are good young defenders like Upemacano, Konate, Liete, Diop, Sarr, Diallo, Tah, Diaz, etc. Who do you rate as high as De Ligt?
There are good young defenders like Upemacano, Konate, Liete, Diop, Sarr, Diallo, Tah, Diaz, etc. Who do you rate as high as De Ligt?
Except we were and SAF said as much. That same window Hazard signed for Chelsea we signed Kagawa as we missed out on Hazard.
And Nasri chose City over us.
€150m release clause that activates in 2022... guess that's his price in 3 years when he goes to Barca/Real Madrid or somewhere in the prem!
To the people saying he's better than Maguire, are you sure of this? Sure he'll become the better player, but is he really the better player currently?
Easily. At 19, he has won more prestigious individual awards than Maguire has at 26, and has accomplished far more. Every big clubs / European giants wants to sign him.
De Ligt
- 19 years old, 17 international caps
- Dutch Player of the year 18-19
- CL squad of the season 18-19
- Europa league squad of the season 17-18
- National league team of the tournament 18-19
- Golden Boy 2018
- whoscored avg rating (18-19) 7.28
Maguire
- 26 years old, 20 international caps
- Leicester city player of the year 17-18
- Hull City player of the year 16-17
- Sheffield United player of the year 11-14
- whoscored avg rating (18-19) 7.01
That's pretty low. He'll move to Spain around that time. Brilliant coup for Juve though. They must be one of the favourites for the CL over the next few years.
I doubt he is. He is hyped out of proportions. I'm sure there will be frustrations with him in Italy as he continues his development. He has potential to become a generational defender, but he is not there yet. People tout him already as the best defender in the world. It's obviously bullshit.
If reports in the Netherlands are to be believed, United never made a formal offer. Three clubs were in for him: Barca, PSG and Juve.
Imagine he moved to Spain in 3 years or so, and Juventus earn double from selling him at 150m, which would be more than just cover all his wages at Juventus. Its like signing him for free for at least 3 years, literally.
Chelsea seems only outside of us who would pay that.
Without a doubt, he's arguably in the top 3 best CB's in the world
Like feck we did.
Not really. 150 million in three years time wouldn't be the same as 150 million now. I'd expect to sell this fellow if he's as good as he's hyped up to be for far more than that. Plus you could also argue that he's going to have mistakes in him right now and sloppiness that comes with any 19 year old and hence having him from 19-23 in his learning years isn't quite ideal.
There'll be no frustration as any mistake he makes will be overshadowed by the fact his team can win the league with their hands tied behind their backs.
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