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Herrera, Ramsay, Lewandowski (for his Bayern move), possibly Ozil and De Gea this summer. I wouldn't be surprised if Pogba refuses to sign and just leaves on a free. I would leave it as late as possible as a player personally. It makes sense from their POV since for clubs they're more like property assets - and many clubs really don't have the player's best interests at heart.Who is doing that?
Well half of those left because they couldn't get the wages at their current club. If anything it shows the power that clubs have that they aren't forced to sell these players.Herrera, Ramsay, Lewandowski (for his Bayern move), possibly Ozil and De Gea this summer. I wouldn't be surprised if Pogba refuses to sign and just leaves on a free. I would leave it as late as possible as a player personally. It makes sense from their POV since for clubs they're more like property assets - and many clubs really don't have the player's best interests at heart.
so what do you think was the logic and purpose behind the bid?Christ.
No.
Zidane isn't stupid, he knows that it doesn't matter if he's high priority as long as the player isn't available on the market, and as i've said since way before the summer, Pogba isn't on the market.
Perez isn't covering his ass, and if there's one thing Real Madrid don't do it's make bids that gets turned down. They make approaches and only make an official offer when they know it gets accepted.
Like Hazard its half assed attempts until his contract is winding down then they go in for a cheaper price.so what do you think was the logic and purpose behind the bid?
No bid, it's bs.so what do you think was the logic and purpose behind the bid?
Pogba was already 'unsettled' before that bid came in.The RM I know usually tries to unsettle players and club by creating a drift, and then put a low ball offer... there is no way RM pays over the odds most of the time so... yes, I can see them making an offer that gets turned down.
I was 15 years old when this opinion first came out and I still get chills hearing it.One thing is right anyway we just can't sell now.
Like or not he's got to stay
It's been widely reported by very legit reporters that an official bid was made. Sorry if I accept that as fact, as opposed to your unsubstantiated claim!No bid, it's bs.
The Spanish media would disagree, oh noFair enough, I assume you have some links to the club as you speak with such authority on the matter. The Independant and the Spanish media would disagree with you but I bow to your wisdom.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...r-united-la-liga-season-preview-a9054236.html
Ah, not only are they legit but they are very legit. Nice.It's been widely reported by very legit reporters that an official bid was made. Sorry if I accept that as fact, as opposed to your unsubstantiated claim!
I think it's mainly because Saha took his place and SAF was just moving away from playing with a CF like himMuch like De Gea, I honestly don’t think he has this burning desire to leave here. I think the issues stem from whether he believes we’re going to turn this thing around. He fancies himself as a superstar and he’s not going to stick around here if he thinks we’re going to be forever stuck chasing the top 4 trophy. Van Nistelrooy left here too because he wasn’t going to wait around for us to come good.
This makes him sound terrible and push the buy Premier League narrative, but does anyone honestly think if Madrid came calling for Luke Shaw right now he wouldn’t want to leave either?
I agree. Nothing about him or De Gea to me says that he has a vendetta against United or they have an issue with the club or Ole. I think they're just realistic in their expectations and they're both players that deserve more in terms of trophies. That's why they've tried to stick around for as long as they have and they've not put in transfer requests/do silly shite like Lukaku has done. Unlike him you can tell they genuinely want to bring the glory days back to United, but they're also realising that their careers are short and if it doesn't look like it's going to happen they'd move to try and ensure that it does.Much like De Gea, I honestly don’t think he has this burning desire to leave here. I think the issues stem from whether he believes we’re going to turn this thing around. He fancies himself as a superstar and he’s not going to stick around here if he thinks we’re going to be forever stuck chasing the top 4 trophy. Van Nistelrooy left here too because he wasn’t going to wait around for us to come good.
This makes him sound terrible and push the buy Premier League narrative, but does anyone honestly think if Madrid came calling for Luke Shaw right now he wouldn’t want to leave either?
Didn't van Nistlerooy leave immediately before we won three league titles and a CL in three seasons, or was there a buffer season?I think it's mainly because Saha took his place and SAF was just moving away from playing with a CF like him
Nah. RVN left because he was no longer the main man up top. Saha was getting more and more time and our attacking football got better as he formed a better partnership with Rooney and Ronaldo.Much like De Gea, I honestly don’t think he has this burning desire to leave here. I think the issues stem from whether he believes we’re going to turn this thing around. He fancies himself as a superstar and he’s not going to stick around here if he thinks we’re going to be forever stuck chasing the top 4 trophy. Van Nistelrooy left here too because he wasn’t going to wait around for us to come good.
This makes him sound terrible and push the buy Premier League narrative, but does anyone honestly think if Madrid came calling for Luke Shaw right now he wouldn’t want to leave either?
He left in the summer of 2006, so yup.Didn't van Nistlerooy leave immediately before we won three league titles and a CL in three seasons, or was there a buffer season?
Also Nistelrooy fell out with all Ronaldo, SAF and QuirozI think it's mainly because Saha took his place and SAF was just moving away from playing with a CF like him
Exactly, these are professional football careers that only last a few years and if you are one of the best in the world in your position, they don't really need to worry about money, they want to be able to look back in a very short ten years time and say I won this and that etc...I bet Alan Shearer wishes he had made some more intelligent moves.....IF we get back to challenging for league and Europe there may be a change of heart but if I was Pogba right now then a team guaranteed to be challenging for the league and Europe like RM would be stupid to turn down. At least he has the respect to look to go to Spain, I am sure he could engineer interest in one of the top two in EPL if he really wanted.I agree. Nothing about him or De Gea to me says that he has a vendetta against United or they have an issue with the club or Ole. I think they're just realistic in their expectations and they're both players that deserve more in terms of trophies. That's why they've tried to stick around for as long as they have and they've not put in transfer requests/do silly shite like Lukaku has done. Unlike him you can tell they genuinely want to bring the glory days back to United, but they're also realising that their careers are short and if it doesn't look like it's going to happen they'd move to try and ensure that it does.
There was that too.Also Nistelrooy fell out with all Ronaldo, SAF and Quiroz
Yeah, like, he was great for us, but we were just so much better without him. I never got the impression he left chasing better things. As you say, we wanted rid.He left in the summer of 2006, so yup.
But again, it had nothing to do with Ruud losing patience in United. We wanted to get rid, we looked more fluid without him in the starting lineup and he'd started sulking.
Yeah, and at that point RvN by his own admission had made it an unworkable situation.I think it's mainly because Saha took his place and SAF was just moving away from playing with a CF like him
I am as anti-Glazer as the next person but in the same situation, I would have handled the Lukaku transfer exactly the same way. If Dybala had been keen to join, we would have got a replacement I believe most fans would have been happy with. Since Dybala clearly was only willing to join for the wrong reasons, we took the cash on offer from Inter. Obviously we haven't re-invested the money as yet because the window shut that same day. Since Lukaku did not appear to be part of Ole's plans and had gone AWOL, I say better to have taken the money rather than have a sulky player sat ruining the mood until the window opened again.Can't say I agree, we want to be adding quality not selling our better players, but even if I did, so we really think Ole would get all that money to spend? We haven't even spent this year's rumoured budget and Lukaku fee.
I am as anti-Glazer as the next person but in the same situation, I would have handled the Lukaku transfer exactly the same way. If Dybala had been keen to join, we would have got a replacement I believe most fans would have been happy with. Since Dybala clearly was only willing to join for the wrong reasons, we took the cash on offer from Inter. Obviously we haven't re-invested the money as yet because the window shut that same day. Since Lukaku did not appear to be part of Ole's plans and had gone AWOL, I say better to have taken the money rather than have a sulky player sat ruining the mood until the window opened again.
So in summary, yes I agree that Pogba is a quality player but I do believe we WOULD re-invest the money. Call me naive but there has to be a balance between wanting the Glazers out but not being ridiculously critical of absolutely every decision they take (or do not take). I don't believe it would make sense for the Glazers to deliberately weaken their own asset when they are currently raking it in anyway. IF it was purely about making a quick buck, why not just sell half our squad in 2006?
I think that this is because there has been an agenda against him since that world-record transfer fee, which has obviously been surpased now.Have people already forgotten the media shitshow he put on last year? It has been clear for a long time that he doesn't intend to stay in England for very long.
Fair enough. I hope you are right but I am not convinced. Time will tell I guess.I am as anti-Glazer as the next person but in the same situation, I would have handled the Lukaku transfer exactly the same way. If Dybala had been keen to join, we would have got a replacement I believe most fans would have been happy with. Since Dybala clearly was only willing to join for the wrong reasons, we took the cash on offer from Inter. Obviously we haven't re-invested the money as yet because the window shut that same day. Since Lukaku did not appear to be part of Ole's plans and had gone AWOL, I say better to have taken the money rather than have a sulky player sat ruining the mood until the window opened again.
So in summary, yes I agree that Pogba is a quality player but I do believe we WOULD re-invest the money. Call me naive but there has to be a balance between wanting the Glazers out but not being ridiculously critical of absolutely every decision they take (or do not take). I don't believe it would make sense for the Glazers to deliberately weaken their own asset when they are currently raking it in anyway. IF it was purely about making a quick buck, why not just sell half our squad in 2006?
what don't you get?Ok this one, I just don’t get it...
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/16/paul...laims-real-madrid-move-still-happen-10580011/