Premier League Game week 5

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Great 2nd half performance from Watford, Foster only had two routine saves to make, and Delafoeu caused a lot of problems. Doucoure should have won it.
 

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It's down to Emery's weird tactics, not the individual quality. Watford were bossing us and I wouldn't say their midfield players are a level above ours.
I have a vague idea of what Solskjaer wants to do with us. It ain't working but I can see it. I can never quite understand what Emery wants Arsenal to do. It's as confusing as Gervinho's hairline was.
 

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Wasn’t for Leno in goals, Watford would have won that game comfortably. That save at the end from Doucoure’s low shot was unbelievable!

Really entertaining game.
 

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It's down to Emery's weird tactics, not the individual quality. Watford were bossing us and I wouldn't say their midfield players are a level above ours.
The players that finished the match for Watford were better than the players that finished in midfield for Arsenal. I don't know what that was that I was watching.
 

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Did he just say VAR is unavailable?
He said that there was a fire alarm at Stockley Park but in the end the VAR team had remained in place, presumably having received clearance that it wasn't a genuine emergency.
 

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Watford played Arsenal off the park in the second half. Great game.

Arsenal's defensive organisation is still poor.
I don't know what people expected after replacing Koscienly with David Luiz.
 

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I have a vague idea of what Solskjaer wants to do with us. It ain't working but I can see it. I can never quite understand what Emery wants Arsenal to do. It's as confusing as Gervinho's hairline was.
Because he doesn't have a defined way of playing. Every game we play he focuses on trying to nullify the opposition rather than playing to our own strengths. I can't remember the last time he played the same starting XI two games in a row.
 

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The Watford player was in the box when Arsenal resumed play. Commentator said VAR should have disallowed the goal since no opponent player is allowed in the 16 yard box at that time?

With a pass like that you deserve to concede though :lol:
VAR can't be used for restarts according to the VAR protocol. I think that is probably the right approach because there are quite often situations that are technically minor offences such as a throw-in not being taken from the exact blade of grass or the ball moving slightly at a free-kick which officials let go to enhance the flow of the game and people tend to get frustrated if a referee is making sure that every single restart is technically precise. I think that VAR should be used for things the officials would have penalised if they'd seen rather than drastically altering the dynamic.
 

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Because he doesn't have a defined way of playing. Every game we play he focuses on trying to nullify the opposition rather than playing to our own strengths. I can't remember the last time he played the same starting XI two games in a row.
Is that it? I have noticed Arsenal play differently from game to game but put it down to inconsistent players. That much be infuriating.
 

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Your agenda is hilarious :lol:

Imagine watching that game and the only thing you pick up on is Pepe's performance
He cost 75 mill, I knew David Luiz, Xhaka, Ozil, Kolasinac etc were already bad players but obviously more expectation and scrutiny is placed on the huge new signing.

I just find it amusing the amount of hype/praise he was getting, for very little. You had Arsenal fans frothing at the mouth about how he was going to tear Premier League defences to bits based on him running in behind a bit against Liverpool.

Like I said, he'll probably turn it on at some point and it'll click for him, but right now I'm seeing a player who has little to no idea what to do in the final third.
 

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Didn't watch the game but just seen the match reports. 31 shots to 7! How come Arsenal got dominated so much?
 

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Will the fans accept him back though? They've been really harsh on the guy.
They weren't that harsh, he's really a very bad defender. For some weird reason they thought signing Luiz, who is one of the few players who can rival Mustafi for clown ability, would fix that, but it doesn't change the fact that Mustafi was very, very poor for them most of the time.
 

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So Arsenal have faced 96 shots this season in 5 games. Thats crazy.
 

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You can see our problems a mile away, we control large parts of games but don’t have the midfield quality to create chances to see off games and tend to concede of the only decent attack a team has had.

Arsenal on the other hand look like they conceded 3 or 4 every game. Genuinely don’t see them as top 4 contenders. Might look ok against Burnley at home but will get rinsed against most decent attacks
 

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Because he doesn't have a defined way of playing. Every game we play he focuses on trying to nullify the opposition rather than playing to our own strengths. I can't remember the last time he played the same starting XI two games in a row.
This is something I've often wondered: what is the Emery way?

I know he obviously likes playing from the back, playing with aggression/high press etc, but these are more just modern trends than anything else. You're good on the counter but surely that's partly because of the pace you have in the team rather than a stylistic choice?

I view him as a more pragmatic/adaptable manager, rather than one with a genuine philosophy he builds a team around. You do seem to change formation pretty regularly and make a decent amount of changes to the side quite often as well, whereas a lot of the top teams pick a system and lineup and then work at it constantly.
 

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31 shots against!

Sounds like the days of the Cleverley - Anderson partnership where we were a ball playing attacking whizz of an outfit, but got sliced through like boiling hot butter with a knife moving at 1,000mph
 

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This is something I've often wondered: what is the Emery way?

I know he obviously likes playing from the back, playing with aggression/high press etc, but these are more just modern trends than anything else. You're good on the counter but surely that's partly because of the pace you have in the team rather than a stylistic choice?

I view him as a more pragmatic/adaptable manager, rather than one with a genuine philosophy he builds a team around. You do seem to change formation pretty regularly and make a decent amount of changes to the side quite often as well, whereas a lot of the top teams pick a system and lineup and then work at it constantly.
I don't think even he knows. They are still having troubles pressing and a good counter attacking side will always get the better of them. Son a few weeks ago was carving them open.

They are quite good at scoring from nothing but they lack the control to see out games. You could make an argument they should've beaten Spurs and Watford.

Re shots, 96 is shocking. I wonder if it's a similar trend in the PL, more teams taking them?