"Turns out the man who challenged the PM is also a Labour activist"
What do you take this phrase to mean? That sounds like 'gotcha' to me.
What do you take this phrase to mean? That sounds like 'gotcha' to me.
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Yeah it reads like it's some big secret. Like she's uncovered some remarkable twist to the story."Turns out the man who challenged the PM is also a Labour activist"
What do you take this phrase to mean? That sounds like 'gotcha' to me.
I reckon she likes it up the wrong'un.I quite like this. Seems like a real thing I can get behind.
Implementing damage control for the Prime Mnister isn't supposed to be her job.Giving her the benefit of doubt, it was a naive thing to do in the current climate. However it would be unfair for her to be punished, let alone sacked for it. That's just mob mentality, the very thing people are complaining she is unleashing on him.
Considering everything else going on today, this has been massively blown out of proportion.
If that was her intention then she hasn't done a great job of it.Implementing damage control for the Prime Mnister isn't supposed to be her job.
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The fecking idiot who posted that tweet. If none of that is true, I would sue the fecking pants off him.
I would entirely argue that tweet was directed to discredit and defame "the man in the video" otherwise the final comment would have been at the start of the tweet.Read it again and think about it.....
But Boris DID do all those things...The fecking idiot who posted that tweet. If none of that is true, I would sue the fecking pants off him.
Oh, I thought he was talking about oldmate in there with his daughter. I've no idea about the history of Boris as im not english.But Boris DID do all those things...
It’s the famous British sarcastic & ironic humor being put on display.Oh, I thought he was talking about oldmate in there with his daughter. I've no idea about the history of Boris as im not english.
Their response will simply further aggravate those who complained.Terrible statement. Not even a hollow apology acknowledging that they understand why people may have perceived it in a negative fashion. To be perfectly honest, I think it was naive and ill-advised and indicative of her bias, but I do not think it was worthy of any substantial punishment. A slap on the wrist and a warning to be more careful and considerate in the future would have been an appropriate consequence. The BBC's response is dire though. Sums up how deep-rooted the problems are with that institution right now.
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Kuenssberg.. Jesus man, irony maybe?Their response will simply further aggravate those who complained.
Reading replies to the BBC statement tweet, they have have poured oil and not water onto what was a small fire ... who knows where it blows upto now ...
If I were a Labour PR man, I'd be making hay tonight!
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You only have these views because of your bias. It's sad because you end up endorsing really disgusting behaviour. Try and be neutral, it is possible.Giving her the benefit of doubt, it was a naive thing to do in the current climate. However it would be unfair for her to be punished, let alone sacked for it. That's just mob mentality, the very thing people are complaining she is unleashing on him.
Considering everything else going on today, this has been massively blown out of proportion.
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Exactly, she’s not supposed to be the PMs spin doctor.Implementing damage control for the Prime Mnister isn't supposed to be her job.
Why is she focusing on the political background of the man in question instead of the PM once again being caught lying?Not really seeing how Kussenberg could be seen to have breached journalistic standards here?
She's retweeted a tweet from a political activists twitter account, which is a public platform. He's put it out there specifically to influence political narrative, which seems the sole intent of his Twitter account as a whole.
Where is she focusing on his background?Why is she focusing on the political background of the man in question instead of the PM once again being caught lying?
Tweeting "turns out the guy is a labour activist" as @Grinner said is like her saying Gotcha! Like it's some big twist to the story.Where is she focusing on his background?
He wants to have his say on the event and use it in a political way so why is giving him a bigger platform a problem?
That's a fair point and it looks like she's deleted it? Is it a breach in journalistic standards though?Tweeting "turns out the guy is a labour activist" as @Grinner said is like her saying Gotcha! Like it's some big twist to the story.
And then "this is him here" and linking his account for all the right wing nutjobs to pile onto him. It's just so unprofessional and it screams of Johnson getting his journalist pals to help him out.
Amazing that some people can interpret events like this.Tweeting "turns out the guy is a labour activist" as @Grinner said is like her saying Gotcha! Like it's some big twist to the story.
And then "this is him here" and linking his account for all the right wing nutjobs to pile onto him. It's just so unprofessional and it screams of Johnson getting his journalist pals to help him out.
How who what why when where.Why is she focusing on the political background of the man in question instead of the PM once again being caught lying?
I don't think there's any debate to be had that retweeting him was 100% proper. She actually gave him the platform he wanted. I do think there's a more nuanced question over the use of 'turns out he's a Labour activist' and if that was an overstep of impartiality.If ap
Amazing that some people can interpret events like this.
I wonder what you lot would be saying if it’d been prime minister Jezza and the outraged person had been a Tory activist. Would you still have regarded his tweets and affiliation as not newsworthy?
Well I can guarantee if that does happen Kuenssberg won't be tweeting the outraged person is a Tory that's for sure.If ap
Amazing that some people can interpret events like this.
Asking “Who is that guy going at the PM like that” is normal for a journalist. That he “turns out to be a labour activist” is noteworthy, factual but not central.
I wonder what you lot would be saying if it’d been prime minister Jezza and the outraged person had been a Tory activist. Would you still have regarded his tweets and affiliation as not newsworthy?
I agree with you although around here a journalist retweeting - or you know, quoting -the actual explanation in his own words from the person at the centre of the story, is apparently biased and inviting a pile on.I don't think there's any debate to be had that retweeting him was 100% proper.
You not think the PM being caught blatantly lying, again, is the bigger story?How who what why when where.
She was doing the “who”.
I'm not sure it would be enough for a breach of journalistic standards, although lets be honest what standards are they these days.That's a fair point and it looks like she's deleted it? Is it a breach in journalistic standards though?
Actually I do, but that’s not what you are focusing on either. Let’s face it, none of you are as wound up by Johnson’s lies as the BBC political editors retweets.You not think the PM being caught blatantly lying, again, is the bigger story?
No, I'm sure you don't.
Because I don’t actually think she did anything terribly wrong. No more complicated than that.Some of you have a very weird defensive relationship with Kuessenberg for the life of my i can't guess why.
did she make it the centre of the story? I saw it as another fact in a developing story.The problem isn't with the facts of her statements but the vocabulary that she used. It denotes some sort of bias, you could even suggest that in her view, being a labour activist reduces the point or the feeling that he may have had during his encounter with Boris Johnson. Otherwise why would she use the term "turns out" and make it the center of the story?
The Mirror article the father quotes in the tweet she RTd also mentions that he is a Labour activist though, as does his twitter bio. It's not like she outed him as one, it was already known at that point and simply by retweeting him you would be drawing attention to that fact. Plus it's a fact that has since been mentioned in pretty much every report on the incident, so I'm not sure you could argue that mentioning it was out of keeping with the general coverage.I don't think there's any debate to be had that retweeting him was 100% proper. She actually gave him the platform he wanted. I do think there's a more nuanced question over the use of 'turns out he's a Labour activist' and if that was an overstep of impartiality.
That said, if you're retweeting his Twitter then its a fact that it's pretty hard to get away from and it was always going to blow up into one of those lovely Twitter political storms, regardless of what she did.