Pogba took a heavy challenge against Rochdale and was down for a while. He's also said to have a swollen ankle which I'm sure is evident.Pogba a bit of the same. Watched the Southampton game and he seemed fine, then he was seen limping onto the coach. I've sprained my ankle more than once and I can tell you it doesn't take 2 hours to decide that it hurts. Same as against Rochdale. No problems on the pitch, came off as normal now another ankle injury?
I'm not saying they're faking injuries but I would say they're the biggest bottlers since Kevin Keegans Newcastle. Mentally weak, that when things aren't going as planned they just dissappear like a puff of smoke. It may be a low blow but I'd put them on the same level as Ozil.
I suppose I can't talk. I've been on paid leave for 2 months now with a knee injury. I could probably go back tomorrow but I'll probably prolong it another month because being quite honest I enjoy getting paid doing nothing
Solskjær press conference vs Arsenal (H)
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I regularly sprain my ankle because it was weakened by an injury a long time ago. I can often continue playing with minimal discomfort, but then when the adrenaline wears off I'm in a lot of pain later, and by the following day I can't walk without a pronounced limp.
Depends on your definition of decent.
We have a squad that lacks leadership and balance.
But I was talking about Ole.
Where is the evidence he is a winner.
We don't have a midfield for starters.
Pogba, our best player wants out and I don't blame him. Look at the dross we have.
Everyone saw how thin the squad was. It was a matter of a couple of injuries. And here we are.
Ole has made mistakes. But 90% of the fault lies with board not supporting him.
Well that will be if Martial and Rashford suddenly appear in the lineup.
Totally agree with you. I based the 3 windows on the snails pace Ed moves at. This summer should have seen 6 signings not 3 but he failed to get it done and I expect him to do the same. Just imagine if we had added a genuine right winger, solid defensive midfielder and a striker this summer in addition to what we did get?
I always go into a Arsenal game full of confidence, but I'm not looking forward to Monday and haven't ever felt like that against Arsenal...
Give it a couple more years and football inflation going even sillier, and we'll probably trigger that.
Just when it's clear to everyone else in the world he's massively on the decline.
The only time lower confidence going into a home game v Arsenal is that year we had basically 3/4 of the team injured, and had to put an unknown Rashford up front!
It isn’t worth contemplating what we would look like with competent recruitment.
The summer was abysmal & those who claim it wasn’t are already being shown 6/7 games into the season. Any team that collapses the second they lose an attacker has an issue with its construction; we’re not replacing Messi or Ronaldo here.
I was a huge proponent of letting OgS undertake this project but if he honestly cane into the season with this squad by choice then he needs firing. He’ll ruin any chance players like Chong have of a career here the more he thrusts an under ready players into the first team to cover up the shocking midfield/attack recruitment this summer.
If Pogba wasn't fully fit before the League Cup game why the hell did he play? I don't get this. Stupid decision, or did he think we really need him to beat League One side? (not that it made any difference anyway as we still struggled) .
.Why not, if it was indeed shit?
Just throwing this out there as I've never mentioned it before. But through work I have spoke to somebody that is very well connected with ex United players and he told us that Ole had been given a permanent contract to begin with but with a sort probation type period. For whatever reason it was passed off as a temporary appointment but that was never the case and he'd actually been taking to Woodward and Phelan for months prior to it all happening and Jose getting the sack.
Not sure why this person would lie on the context of our conversation, but make it it what you will.
Not sure why this person would lie on the context of our conversation, but make it it what you will.
Because he’s a manager and not a bellend?
Yes, so he rather praises players for shit performance instead of putting them under some (very much deserved) pressure.
As a result, Rashford’s finishing becomes worse and worse with every game. But why should Marcus care when he is guaranteed to start if fit?
Certainly, same applies to Matic, for instance (not finishing, but general performance level)
I disagree. For a start playing Mata or Lingard or Andreas in the no 10 position for 80 minutes while Gomes sits tight on the bench is mediocre management, especially in matches where Pogba, Martial and James are involved. And when he decides to give him the occasional 10 or 5 minutes, he plays him as a winger, just to accommodate one of his trusted players.
Last time I even saw Andreas on the left wing while James played on the right! I don't have the time to explain why that was a horrible decision but perhaps this would suffice: James on the left perhaps could have prevented Rochdale's equaliser. There have been several times when he should have made one or two substitutions at half time or at almost on the hour mark but waited till the dying minutes. It is his fault that Rashford continues to slam free kicks into the walls, just like Young continually looping the ball over every head to the opposition. The only reason he hasn't received a big revolt is that he is a club legend, he should know better than pushing his luck. When the heat becomes unbearable, Woodward or whatever he is called wouldn't mind sacrifising him just to detract attention from his own (Woodward's) ineptitude
He was trying to give him some minutes before Arsenal,however unfortunately for Ole the decision badly backfired on him and leaves us dead of creativity.
The bad bum won’t put a shift in, some people will call me a hater but it’s the truth.
Sore ankle? During every presser it’s not certain he’s out but when it becomes game time he’s a shirker.
I am starting to believe, No I'm not.. But i am growing curious. Not even on the penalty list.
Gomes is not a finished product yet. As it stands today he is worse than mata. He is young , he may have potential, and as he makes progress he might turn into a PL starter in 3-4 years. But to win matches today no manager will rely on Gomes. Sub impact, may be.
That's the irony of it all. We say that we believe in the youths, who are just game time away to become top players only to then insist playing players who are former players in all but name
If Gomes is talented then you play him. At worse we will lose the game just the same but the guy will gain experience. What do we gain by playing Mata instead? The guy is useless
Rashy wasn't ready for first team football under LVG same as Pogba wasn't ready for first team football in his first year at Juve.
I heard the same thing but I didn't mentioned it for fear of being labelled ITK.
Half the first team is injured.
After the Arsenal game if we lose:
«OlE iS a BaD MAnaGer!»
After the Arsenal game if we lose:
«OlE iS a BaD MAnaGer!»
It was very matter of fact the way he said it. At the time Ole was temporary so it was a big thing to come out with if he was lying. He also knew Phelan was/had signed on permanently. At the time there were the rumours that Phelan wasn't happy with the set up and would go back to Australia.
Getting the excuses ready already?
But yeah I see where you are coming from. I mean we played fantastic football under him when we had everyone fit. Mind blowing stuff. Must be these damn injuries that nobody could ever see coming during the summer transfer when Ole decided that 2 striker would be enough.
I also heard that Ole's main task at the club is to get rid of the high earning deadwood. If he is still successful after that then he keeps his job. If not then he falls on his sword and the new manager will find a clean sleet to work upon
I don't know if that is true as the man who told me is an Ole’s zealot who has links with the club
You shall not pass!!Your username and that comment made me laugh
I started questioning him after the game vs Sevilla. Mourinho had him benched and when he was put in the game he was sulking. Let's be clear, I couldn't stand Mourinho but the way Pogba used our seasons most important game to do some childish protest, I'll never forgive. I remember I was fuming afterwards.
No we didn't lose because of him before someone goes off subject.
Unbelievable. Gomes is not worse than Mata. I mean no offence but I doubt you have been watching the team since pre-season. The fact that you said "he may have potential" is enough for me to conclude thus. Gomes has huge potentials, comparable to the likes of Foden and Sancho. He is stronger and faster than Mata, can dribble better than Mata, has a better ball control/retention, and in general can do the basics better than Mata. The only edge Mata has against him currently is experience, and with his (Mata's) present form, his experience is of no value to the team.
I haven't said he should be a starter or play an entire 90 mins. He needs a fair chance to prove himself and hasn't been given that. Somehow you failed to notice the part of my comment that refers to him playing alongside Martial, James and Pogba. A young player being introduced into the team needs to be surrounded by the best around. Against Astana he wasn't afraid to take up advanced positions in tight spaces but there was no one capable or willing to take the risk to pass the ball to him. Anyone could see that Chong wasn't the right person to be around him. Compare his willingness in that match to that of Lingard in several games.
Gomes and Greenwood need to be surrounded by the best around in order to bring out the best in them, not just been thrown into games with has-been players and expected to perform magic. The same goes for Garner. Ole had the opportunity during pre-season but somehow botched it, so that Lingard can keep running around to no end. It seems Ole is no talk and no action, Frank Lampard is walking the walk and not just talking.
If you, and especially those in charge think he needs 3-4 years to be a starter in the PL, I would advise him not to waste his time by signing a new contract. There are clubs outside UK that would gladly welcome him.
Looks the case. Think he'll be given 3 years to re-shape the squad and then challenge, rightly or wrongly.
It's been said, we need a Manager who can lead, oles sorry looks lost, positive media talk gone, he can see it's falling apart bit by bit. Game by game.
I can see him going maybe before the xmas period comes.
I can see him going maybe before the xmas period comes.
Sad.
I'd really love Ole to succeed and given until at least xmas a year from now, but damn he had towards the end of the match the other night that look Moyes had toward the end for him, think it was about the 70th min and the camera zooms in on him and that moyes look of not knowing what to do was clear as day.
I really hope if still here in Jan he brings in a MF and a old head striker as rashford is not someone nor is martial you can depend on, but till then I really hope he implements a formation and sticks with it as we currently have no system to speak off.
This for me too. When you are warm and in the game, it doesn't hurt as much but afterwards the whole ankle got be so swollen
People will call you a hater not for your opinion but for your need to insult him any chance you get.
I think so, SAF used to do that all the time, I think Ole is taking a page. James started though he was a "doubt".
Solskjaer on not signing a striker
"Of course, if we had the right one [to sign], if it was there, we would have. It was time for Rom to go. He knows that. He didn't want to be here. What is the point in having players that don't want to be here?
And there's no point getting players in that you're not 100 per cent sure about. When you get players in you need the right ones that are going stay here for a longer period and that's the long-term thinking we have to show. I cannot think, 'I need a player because this is my reputation'. No, it's the club.
There were strikers, but they weren't the ones we wanted. We couldn't get the one we wanted.
"Of course, if we had the right one [to sign], if it was there, we would have. It was time for Rom to go. He knows that. He didn't want to be here. What is the point in having players that don't want to be here?
And there's no point getting players in that you're not 100 per cent sure about. When you get players in you need the right ones that are going stay here for a longer period and that's the long-term thinking we have to show. I cannot think, 'I need a player because this is my reputation'. No, it's the club.
There were strikers, but they weren't the ones we wanted. We couldn't get the one we wanted.
Quite frankly, the man chats s***.
When you're warm as you say and the adrenaline is rushing you don't feel even worse things. I worked through a demonstration with a cracked shinbone, after it was over I was out for several months but during thought I just thought I had a bruise.