Do tell which MPs that are supporting the bill have had their selection processes triggered?
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Are we absolutely sure of that?
What if the EU offer of an extension is not negotiable? Boris has his first excuse to refuse, or to get into a time consuming discussions which have the effect of delaying until after the deadline. Or he can then do as he said he would and fall on his sword in a ditch, just as the clock strikes midnight on the 31st October!
That's the point no one knows for sure, numbers calculations on the upcoming votes in Parliament are 'up in the air' and as I said, I suspected this was the case, and which is adding to Jeremy's worries, somewhat unnecessarily!
Mann, Hoey and Fitzpatrick are not standing so don’t care. However someone posted Fitzpatricks constitutency voted remain?
There's no point engaging with someone who links National Socialism with the present policies of the Labour party
it's beyond parody. Either he's on the wind up or his knowledge of both ideologies is derisory. I suspect it's a combination of the two.Thanks for your response, and thank you for not aligning yourself with these small minded idiots who's only modus operandi is to get away with insulting as many people who disagree with their point of view as they can get away with.
This is exactly how Sassy Colin started.
You smell.
What about the AP - of NSDAP - Arbeiterpartei - Worker's Party - sounds a bit like ....
Massive Remain. Poplar Limehouse (includes Mile End) has huge Polish and East European population too). So I don't understand his stance at all.
Wonderful. You smell wonderful.
Well said.
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I thought they already had.
The name, like their 25 point plan, was from 1919/1920, by the time they gained power in 1933 they were a completely different entity funded by big business. It's worth noting that most of their 'unalterable' 25 point plan was quietly forgotten once power was gained.
They changed but they appealed to business by dropping part of their anti-captilalist stance. However in 1934 - Hitler responded that Nazism was not exclusively for any class and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps" by stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism"
Basically conning stupid people from all walks of life with nationalistic, xenophobic rhetoric.
Brilliant wonderful speech by Lammy!
Hitler's rhetoric is exactly that, rhetoric, the policies he enacted were to aid the businesses who funded the party not the workers.
How have we got to Hitler and Nazi Germany ?
Well, there was a vote in 2016 and everyone went mad.
Yes, certainly after the Strasserites were defeated internally, which happened well before 1934.
What’s expected? Is it that the government loses tonight’s vote as well?
Colin took a massive brain shit two pages back and Paul decided to roll in it.
I dislike Bill Cash more than any other person I have ever seen
This is exactly how a discussion on Nazi Germany started.
You are an obnoxious poster and all your posts are rubbish.
Yes with heavy borrowing which inevitably led to war with the workers convenient for cannon fodder and building the war machine.
Anyway, one would hope lessons have been learned. No way.
Not as good as his brother Jonny.
£1.5bn down the drain.
I have thought about it quite a bit these last few months; I would do it too if wasn't for family members that need us in the UK.
Thanks for your response, and thank you for not aligning yourself with these small minded idiots who's only modus operandi is to get away with insulting as many people who disagree with their point of view as they can get away with.
Oh stop you're making me blush.
I don't seriously think we're heading for concentration camps but we are clearly seeing the beginnings of repeating other aspects of the rise of the far right in the 1920s and 1930s.
No but it's a similar mechanism that's being used and we now know how gullible people can be.
Bonus point from this discussion it's got @Sweet Square energised.
Most productive I've been all day.Bonus point from this discussion it's got @Sweet Square energised.
Would you move to the EU, or further afield? After Brexit it'll be far more complicated for Brits to get residency in a European country, if they've not already applied for it. I know what you mean about having family ties, we wouldn't have been able to do this when oates's mum was still alive. She voted remain as it happens, she loved travelling and had lived in other countries.