Erling Håland

[troylocker]

Didn't Rashford have some crazy stats when he just broke through? He scored on his debut in Europa, in the league, in the FA Cup, for England. Now he can't hit a barn door, and it's clearly not a number 9. Three month stats are too short of a timeframe to make a decision, especially in our case where we need an established guy not another up and coming considering we have Rashford, Martial and Greenwoods in the books.

Sorry, but Rashfords stats that first season is nothing close to Haalands stats this season, even though it was good: 11 goals and 2 assists in 1500 minutes in all competitions (including England U21 matches)
If we look at the season where he was 19 he was producing like he has been since: 12 goals and 3 assists in 3400 minutes in all competitions (including national teams)

Besides, Rashford has turned out alright though; International for England, big star in Man utd, good player, but not would class. If he failed miserably it would still be a lazy comparison though. There is allways a player you can compare with that fits the point you want to make. It is a bigger risk going for younger players, but that doesn’t mean that they are not ready for the biggest scene. This guy looks like a generational talent, and I have never seen numbers like he’s putting up there before, even though it is still a small sample size. He is literally breaking records every month. He’s scored 6 goals in 196 minutes in CL for Salzburg!!, against Liverpool, Napoli and Genk, in his first CL ever, nobody has done it before.....it’s not 2 goals against Copenhagen playing for Manchester United...

 

[Crashoutcassius]

What are you trying to say about the brilliant people on the footballing side of the club, huh?

Was ole in the club like 3 weeks as interim manager when he signed for red bull? And people asking why United didn't sign him ? Wierd

 

[troylocker]

Was ole in the club like 3 weeks as interim manager when he signed for red bull? And people asking why United didn't sign him ? Wierd

He signed for Salzburg in August last year while Ole was his coach, but was allowed to finish the season with Molde and join Salzburg in january.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

He signed for Salzburg in August last year while Ole was his coach, but was allowed to finish the season with Molde and join Salzburg in january.

Okay, so the question as to why ole didn't sign him for 5m is even more nonsensical

 

[troylocker]

Okay, so the question as to why ole didn't sign him for 5m is even more nonsensical

That is correct! Very tough for Ole to sign him for Man Utd as he was manager for Molde at the time, yes.

 

[Suedesi]

Sorry, but Rashfords stats that first season is nothing close to Haalands stats this season, even though it was good: 11 goals and 2 assists in 1500 minutes in all competitions (including England U21 matches)
If we look at the season where he was 19 he was producing like he has been since: 12 goals and 3 assists in 3400 minutes in all competitions (including national teams)

Besides, Rashford has turned out alright though; International for England, big star in Man utd, good player, but not would class. If he failed miserably it would still be a lazy comparison though. There is allways a player you can compare with that fits the point you want to make. It is a bigger risk going for younger players, but that doesn’t mean that they are not ready for the biggest scene. This guy looks like a generational talent, and I have never seen numbers like he’s putting up there before, even though it is still a small sample size. He is literally breaking records every month. He’s scored 6 goals in 196 minutes in CL for Salzburg!!, against Liverpool, Napoli and Genk, in his first CL ever, nobody has done it before.....it’s not 2 goals against Copenhagen playing for Manchester United...

Are you saying he looks like the next Messi/Ronaldo?

 

[lysglimt]

That is correct! Very tough for Ole to sign him for Man Utd as he was manager for Molde at the time, yes.

Judging from the standards on this forum - OGS should have known he was gonna be manager of Man United, and should have planned ahead by Selling him to United. Clearly he is a clueless manager!

 

[DBT85]

Committee of C nuts. Need this Feck ing player asap.

Didn't see that coming did you?

you git

 

[RussellWilson]

So we keeping Ole until we sign this guy then sacking him right?

 

[Handré1990]

Interesting article about his development in Norwegian newspaper VG. A few points:

- He didn’t become a big guy until he was 16-17, grew 20 cm in two years. The point was made by Thorstvedt that since he was a pretty small and scrawny guy most of his football life he hasn’t really relied on superior physique most of his formative years. So he has developed a smartness and spatial awareness not usually seen in big strikers (he’s 194 cm, Giroud and Carrol 193, and Zlatan 195).

- The smartness and movement around the box was also pointed out by the head of talent development in the Norwegian FA (NFF) Håkon Grøttland. Grøttland says he was one of the smaller players when brought in to train with the elite group when he was 14. He also says Haaland played in the same explosive and energetic manner then.

- Another interesting tidbit came from the famous (in Norway) sports doctor Lars Engebretsen. He says if you can manage a tough training regimen while the growth spurts are happening, you might be able to keep your natural speed and explosiveness (if you had any). This is what happened with Haaland. Says it’s a big risk though, because certain parts of your body would be weaker, and repeated stress injuries (not sure if I’ve translated that one correctly) are such a big risk. Haaland has been incredibly lucky to avoid serious injury. Compares him to NBA players who retain speed and explosiveness while being absolute units.

- All of them mentioned how weird it was to see a player his size with such speed and mobility. The conclusion from all three is that Haaland is the biggest striker talent to ever come out of Norway.

 

[RussellWilson]

He does remind me of Rooney when he first burst on the scene (in a bigger frame). The power and directness, and just dominating grown men as a teenager.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

How did OgS not highly recommend this guy to the point of us signing him.

He played for Miles ffs

Edit: Just read RBS were ahead of the game on this one. Abit p***ed OgS didn’t do a Giggsy & highly recommend though.

 

[Samid]

How did OgS not highly recommend this guy to the point of us signing him.

He played for Miles ffs

Edit: Just read RBS were ahead of the game on this one. Abit p***ed OgS didn’t do a Giggsy & highly recommend though.

There were United scouts present at the game where he scored 4 goals in the opening 20 minutes. Against a defence that had conceded 5 goals in 14 games (!) prior to that. As a 17 year old. If that wasn't enough to impress them then I'm not sure what they were doing there in the first place. If they had asked Ole then I'm sure he would have said sign him up and loan him back until the end of the season.

 

[MikeKing]

Seems to have a great attitude. Him and McTominay would certainly make the team more imposing physically, hopefully we'll become a bit better on set pieces. Ole managed him at Molde, and all the fans want him so I'm sure he'll try for it. He really should be able to get him though.

 

[Ali Dia]

Himself and Havertz would be great buys.

 

[hungrywing]

How did OgS not highly recommend this guy to the point of us signing him.

He played for Miles ffs

Edit: Just read RBS were ahead of the game on this one. Abit p***ed OgS didn’t do a Giggsy & highly recommend though.

TBF, the bolded part of the bottom post kind of sounds like he could have done just that.

There were United scouts present at the game where he scored 4 goals in the opening 20 minutes. Against a defence that had conceded 5 goals in 14 games (!) prior to that. As a 17 year old. If that wasn't enough to impress them then I'm not sure what they were doing there in the first place. If they had asked Ole then I'm sure he would have said sign him up and loan him back until the end of the season.

What if Ole had said 'I know it'd be kind of pointless to come watch him against the majority of defenses in this league, so come watch this game, against the top team. If he does well then, it might be of some merit.'

And then what if the scouts all raved or at least been somewhat bullish.

And then what if Woody had asked if he would cost more than 60m

And then Judge asked if he could pay the lad 120k (remember, this would be pre-James/AWBs' more reasonable contracts)

And the scouts said 'no, around 5m', and 'whyever would you want to pay him that instead of let him feel like a young man on a progression'

And Woody said not expensive enough how am I going to feel important. And Judge said how else am I going to feel like a big dick playa and how on earth does paying a person excessively more demotivate them derp derp what be psychologooz.

 

[paraguayo]

Interesting article about his development in Norwegian newspaper VG. A few points:

- He didn’t become a big guy until he was 16-17, grew 20 cm in two years. The point was made by Thorstvedt that since he was a pretty small and scrawny guy most of his football life he hasn’t really relied on superior physique most of his formative years. So he has developed a smartness and spatial awareness not usually seen in big strikers (he’s 194 cm, Giroud and Carrol 193, and Zlatan 195).

- The smartness and movement around the box was also pointed out by the head of talent development in the Norwegian FA (NFF) Håkon Grøttland. Grøttland says he was one of the smaller players when brought in to train with the elite group when he was 14. He also says Haaland played in the same explosive and energetic manner then.

- Another interesting tidbit came from the famous (in Norway) sports doctor Lars Engebretsen. He says if you can manage a tough training regimen while the growth spurts are happening, you might be able to keep your natural speed and explosiveness (if you had any). This is what happened with Haaland. Says it’s a big risk though, because certain parts of your body would be weaker, and repeated stress injuries (not sure if I’ve translated that one correctly) are such a big risk. Haaland has been incredibly lucky to avoid serious injury. Compares him to NBA players who retain speed and explosiveness while being absolute units.

- All of them mentioned how weird it was to see a player his size with such speed and mobility. The conclusion from all three is that Haaland is the biggest striker talent to ever come out of Norway.

Interesting read.

 

[Jibbs]

There is no way we are going to sign a talent like him without adding at least 2 more equal quality signings to show our intent. Really believe whatever minuscule chance we have of signing him is in January. Otherwise it will de Ligt 2.0 by summer.

 

[ovoxo]

Shouldn’t we be going for someone more experienced? If we believe Greenwood will be everything we expect him to be then surely Haland would block his development? I’d have thought we’d go for a Dembele or Mandzukic type player.

 

[roonster09]

Amazing some are moaning about Ole for not signing this player.

 

[dev1l]

Interesting article about his development in Norwegian newspaper VG. A few points:

- He didn’t become a big guy until he was 16-17, grew 20 cm in two years. The point was made by Thorstvedt that since he was a pretty small and scrawny guy most of his football life he hasn’t really relied on superior physique most of his formative years. So he has developed a smartness and spatial awareness not usually seen in big strikers (he’s 194 cm, Giroud and Carrol 193, and Zlatan 195).

- The smartness and movement around the box was also pointed out by the head of talent development in the Norwegian FA (NFF) Håkon Grøttland. Grøttland says he was one of the smaller players when brought in to train with the elite group when he was 14. He also says Haaland played in the same explosive and energetic manner then.

- Another interesting tidbit came from the famous (in Norway) sports doctor Lars Engebretsen. He says if you can manage a tough training regimen while the growth spurts are happening, you might be able to keep your natural speed and explosiveness (if you had any). This is what happened with Haaland. Says it’s a big risk though, because certain parts of your body would be weaker, and repeated stress injuries (not sure if I’ve translated that one correctly) are such a big risk. Haaland has been incredibly lucky to avoid serious injury. Compares him to NBA players who retain speed and explosiveness while being absolute units.

- All of them mentioned how weird it was to see a player his size with such speed and mobility. The conclusion from all three is that Haaland is the biggest striker talent to ever come out of Norway.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing

 

[roonster09]

Okay, so the question as to why ole didn't sign him for 5m is even more nonsensical

Most of the posts from moaners are just nonsense. They don’t have a clue on anything and don’t even do basic research. Just moans about bringing to prove how clueless they are.

 

[roonster09]

There were United scouts present at the game where he scored 4 goals in the opening 20 minutes. Against a defence that had conceded 5 goals in 14 games (!) prior to that. As a 17 year old. If that wasn't enough to impress them then I'm not sure what they were doing there in the first place. If they had asked Ole then I'm sure he would have said sign him up and loan him back until the end of the season.

We had Jose as manager. As if he would have taken inputs from ManUtd old boys.

People just want reason to moan about Ole when there are plenty already. Weird posts though moaning about Ole for not signing player for ManUtd when he was Molde manager.

 

[Handré1990]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing

My pleasure! Thought it was a little more than the usual choir.

 

[TwoSheds]

Shouldn’t we be going for someone more experienced? If we believe Greenwood will be everything we expect him to be then surely Haland would block his development? I’d have thought we’d go for a Dembele or Mandzukic type player.

352, 442, Greenwood on the wing, lots of different options. If he's good and he's interested and could be got for a reasonable fee then we'd be mad not to try for him.

We don't have a reliable no.9 right now so if this guy is the best option to address that then we have to make the effort. Imagine being able to not rely on Lingard, Martial or Rashford in attack if we didn't want to...

 

[Handré1990]

Shouldn’t we be going for someone more experienced? If we believe Greenwood will be everything we expect him to be then surely Haland would block his development? I’d have thought we’d go for a Dembele or Mandzukic type player.

Tbh Greenwood will happily be a 2nd striker. He's got the technique, vision and skill to be a number 10. Haaland is more of a 9 (poacher,target man) so they could happily play together.

We should be aiming to sign him whatever happens.

Greenwood and Halaand are as far from each other as players can get. If there is a chance of signing this guy we should go all out and do it.

 

[Samid]

We had Jose as manager. As if he would have taken inputs from ManUtd old boys.

People just want reason to moan about Ole when there are plenty already. Weird posts though moaning about Ole for not signing player for ManUtd when he was Molde manager.

He's getting blamed for Soton conceding 9 goals as well. Very odd place filled with irrational people.

 

[Irrational.]

So how do we pronounce the name of our new #10?

Any of our resident Norwegian Cafites able to shed any light whether it's 'Haa land' or 'Whore land'? I get mixed messages when the BT Sport commentators try and sound a little more civilized than they are.

 

[troylocker]

Are you saying he looks like the next Messi/Ronaldo?

No, but he looks like he might become a legend.

 

[Scotty McT]

So how do we pronounce the name of our new #10?

Man-zu-kic

 

[ArcticDribbler]

So how do we pronounce the name of our new #10?

Any of our resident Norwegian Cafites able to shed any light whether it's 'Haa land' or 'Whore land'? I get mixed messages when the BT Sport commentators try and sound a little more civilized than they are.

In 'Haa land' the two a's are the same as norwegian letter å. Å (AA) = aw in English "yawn"

 

[Cantonaaa!]

So how do we pronounce the name of our new #10?

Any of our resident Norwegian Cafites able to shed any light whether it's 'Haa land' or 'Whore land'? I get mixed messages when the BT Sport commentators try and sound a little more civilized than they are.

Ærling Breut Haa lann

 

[dev1l]

I don t think this is happening. No insider knowledge. Just my gut feeling

 

[lysglimt]

Ærling Breut Haa lann

This.

Norway has something called silent D - which means that D's at the end of words generally aren't pronounced.

So basically - the AA is pronounced like the O in Words like "torn", "born" and Land is pronounced (Lann)

 

[OohAahMartial]

I have this irrational desire that we sign this player however much he costs. I also know it will be damn difficult to do, when other top clubs will fight over him. Get him and Bruno this January, and we'd be a completely different team, scoring more than 1 goal a game!

 

[Beachryan]

Interesting stuff about the growth spurt, didn't the same thing happen to McTominay?

At least we know Ole knows the player, can't really ask more than that.

 

[Suedesi]

No, but he looks like he might become a legend.

You just claimed he looks like a generational talent which I always considered it to be for like maybe 1 player at a time...hence generational. Comes around once every era type of thing. Now you're saying he might become a legend. Any more hype you want to attach to this kid?

 

[Bearded One]

Are we making serious moves towards signing this guy or we are just playing around? The other day I saw in the news that City and Liverpool are all over him. Could be bullshit I know but news like that make your heart skip a bit.

 

[Samid]

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We read that Mattino interviewed an observer according to whom Haaland was proposed to @sscnapoli for 5 million. The 'news' is false and it is surprising that, before writing it, the journalist has not contacted the Naples to have a confirmation or a denial.

 

[Adnan]

I watched this lad last year and he stood out like a sore thumb in a very positive way. I even asked some of our resident Norwegian posters about him and the feedback was very positive at the time. Haaland was only 17 at the time but was showing immense potential.

Standing at 6'4 and being physically very strong at 19 is good but he also has the technical ability and pace which make him a potentially very exciting young prospect. Haaland speaks very highly of Ole and I believe we have a great chance of signing him as long as Ole is still at the club. I'd hope we can strike a deal with RBS in January so he can arrive for the start of next season. And I believe a fee rising to £50m would do it.