Calm down.Yeah. I'm serious.
No, it's not clear at all that OGS has given him more freedom, only that Mctominay is improving every month, as one would expect from a player of his age in his position.
You claim Mourinho restricted McTominay, even though the player himself goes over and beyond to praise and recognise his former manager.Laughable really.
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That was exactly what happened. He threw his dummy out because he didn't get the CB he wanted at the detriment to the team.
That was why he got fired. If only he wasn't so selfish maybe he'd still be manager.
He's brilliant at winning the ball back in midfield. He may lack some creativity on the ball (which is why he needs someone next to him that can do that, and not Fred), but he excels at breaking up play. Done it countless times last night and stopped Chelsea from building anything. Really like the guy. Superb attitude and work rate, too.
Scott is an exceptional young player, one who has seized his opportunity and is still learning on the job.
I'm convinced he's destined to play 500+ games for us and captain us one day. He's fast, strong, determined, fit as a fiddle, his entire game is getting better (passing, tackling, finishing, positioning).
I laugh my head off at the comparisons to Darren Gibson and Tom Cleverley... how completely naive and lazy to compare him to them. The only similarities being they have all played for United, all British and all midfielders. If he was a young south american or european player in Italy or Spain, he'd be valued at £60m-£80m. Because he's come through during a difficult period for United, and because he's Scottish, and because Mourinho liked him, he's being significantly downplayed.
He plays a lot like a young Roy Keane (at Forest and at the start of his United career) in the sense that he's physical but also very quick and clever, determined and committed.
We need more players like him, he aint ending up like Darren Gibson.
I'm convinced he's destined to play 500+ games for us and captain us one day. He's fast, strong, determined, fit as a fiddle, his entire game is getting better (passing, tackling, finishing, positioning).
I laugh my head off at the comparisons to Darren Gibson and Tom Cleverley... how completely naive and lazy to compare him to them. The only similarities being they have all played for United, all British and all midfielders. If he was a young south american or european player in Italy or Spain, he'd be valued at £60m-£80m. Because he's come through during a difficult period for United, and because he's Scottish, and because Mourinho liked him, he's being significantly downplayed.
He plays a lot like a young Roy Keane (at Forest and at the start of his United career) in the sense that he's physical but also very quick and clever, determined and committed.
We need more players like him, he aint ending up like Darren Gibson.
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The way he has adjusted to his frame is quite remarkable. He uses his physical gifts extremely effectively. He's becoming a complete midfielder.
McTominay has said he is so thankful to Mourinho. Mou deserves a bit of credit for pulling him from the reserves like LVG with Rashford but McTominay is the one who deserves most of the credit for kicking in and becoming a leader
Why are people associating "Leadership skills' with shouting and blaming his teammates while looking angry? I've seen people using this many times to conclude "he's a leader".
Same reason people are calling him a complete midfielder and the best midfielder at the club. They're getting carried away.
I'm a big fan of him for what it's worth.
Where is he blaming anyone? What went wrong that he is apportioning blame? In the clip above he's telling them to stay focused and he has every right to exhibit frustration because our players lose focus and concede a lot. Leaders on the pitch are vocal.
Going to be captain in a few seasons, we need an attitude like his on the field to steady the ship.
It is clear the poster doesn't understand what a leader is.
Vidic, Rooney, Rio, JT, Gerrard, Kompany, Keane have all been to be doing so because they are leaders.
He's not blaming anyone?
The fact he feels comfortable enough to do that shows his status in the squad. Having that kind of status at just 22 years of age is the sign of a leader.
There's also more to him than just shouting. He's always encouraging his teammates (example yday being when Fred won the free kick for Rashford's goal) and also giving pep talks during goal celebrations.
If that's his intention, it's a good intention. But if you were Maguire or even Rojo, would you like Scott McTominay did that to you and see you as their "leader"?
If you are far away from others in a noisy place like where he's, you can only see his body language. His body language does look he's angry and blaming someone, basically look like an a*s.
I like Scott, and he's been one of my fave since last season. But he still need to prove himself because he hasn't achieved anything to demand respect.
Oh no we've gotten to the body language stage.
How does it always happen?
Great summary.
Keane also joined at this age of McT. But also into a much more settled and already title winning team.
A leader doesn't consider seniority and tiptoe around sensitive egos when telling his teammates to stay focused at the end of a tight match. He tells it like it is and if you're slacking and need a kick up the arse, he gives it to you. Scott is commanding respect with his performances this season.
To be fair, that's what people are also using to call him a leader. Not that it's wrong, we can't really say for sure.
I know, I was joking about both sides going for the body language angle
Easily becoming my favourite player in this United team, also didnt think I would be saying this last year, but he would be my first name on the sheet! Embodies everything about this great club, leaves it all out on the pitch, and is growing and maturing by the game. I also think it is important to point out how much he has improved technically, his touch, dribbling out of tight areas, not to mention his pinging passes to switch the play, which are becoming more frequent. Was hard to tell at first, but we have a real gem here lads.
Always a huge fan, the only thing that bothers me is that he seems to lose possession at least once a game in a dangerous area and given he's the deepest of the 3 mids, leaves the CBs exposed to a counter. I haven't watched yesterday's game but he did this against Norwich last. Needs to cut that out of his game.
The world class talk needs to slow down a bit, he'll have his ups and downs in form, but at the very least we don't have to worry about buying a new #8 for the squad.
The world class talk needs to slow down a bit, he'll have his ups and downs in form, but at the very least we don't have to worry about buying a new #8 for the squad.
He deserves credit for picking him out sure, he obviously saw the talent in the boy.
Still doesn't change he threw him under the bus.
How do We know He's a leader? He never said anything about keeping his house keys when He was a kid.
I doubt it mate.
I doubt it mate.
Only people to throw Scott under the bus were the United fans who used him as a proxy in their abuse of Jose
So true. I disliked José but fans killed Scott because they didn’t like José, I remember at the year end awards Mourinho said he deserved credit and the caf said he is Jose’s love child and all
Huge fan of his. Hope he becomes a mainstay in our midfield as a box to box player.
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Apparently has completed more dribbles than the likes of Mane, Salah, Mahrez and milinkovic savic
Apparently has completed more dribbles than the likes of Mane, Salah, Mahrez and milinkovic savic
Jose really got us a gem here.
If he screams at Maguire to get in his position that is discussed in several team meetings, Maguire will very quickly start seeing McTominay as his leader. But it doesn't have to be about McTominay being Maguire's leader. They can both become organizers. Giggs, Vidic, Rio, Evra, VDS were all leaders who played in the same team. I doubt anyone in that group considered someone to be their leader.
Some of the posts early on in this thread just goes to show how some fans are very quick to judge and rubbish a player, which seems silly especially when the player in question is a youngster.
The same is happening now for Dalot IMO. I believe it will turn out similar to the McTominay situation.
The same is happening now for Dalot IMO. I believe it will turn out similar to the McTominay situation.
Yeh agreed. I just pointed out, act like that on the field isn't a sign of a "leader".
Was Lukaku a leader also? pointing, clapping, shouting at teammates.
Context is important. Lukaku was never offering any sort of guidance, just deflecting from his own incompetence.
As a leader, you have to a) pull your weight(no pun intended) b) provide specific instruction based on team discussions. I don't think Lukaku did either.
To get the most out of him I think he'd excel in a 433 with a deep lying midfielder behind him and a creative CM a little in front of him.
Becoming a brilliant player. Nothing more satisfying than see a player develop in front of you.
I definitely see improvements in his ability on the ball but the improvement he's made in terms of his physicality over the last 12 months has been immense. He's dominating players physically at 22 in midfield in the PL. His best attribute is his mentality though, in my opinion. He's an absolute rock.
- Immense physicality, use of body to win duels, protect the ball under pressure.
- Technique and drive. First touch is good. Very good at reading the space in front of him, and the instinctive dribbling to go with it.
- Defensive disiplin, positional awareness. For a midfielder of his age, with as little experience he has, this is good too.
- Other skills. Shooting, tackling, passing, heading is at a more than reasonable level for a squad player. Never backs down, and wins a lot of free kicks because of it.
Looking at all the improvements, he is becoming a well rounded player with a lot of consistency to his game. He is currently outperforming his status of squad player. If you add his mentality and the no nonsense application he has to his own tasks, he sets an example for the rest of the squad. The combination of everything written above means he has a real shot into not only making it here, but to become one of our most important players.
I for one never saw this coming, I'm over the moon about his progression this season. He has pretty much out of nowhere taken responsibility for our shit situation, carrying it on his shoulders as a 22 year old. Impressive. I thought he was going to fold to the pressure this season after lack of midfield signings, not become our best performer in midfield. Flabbergasted.
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