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Ed is briefing his sources like crazy today. The excuses have started and it looks eerily similar to Haaland. Embarrassment.
No it is NOT. They upped the asking price to 80m euros. He is not worth that sum simple as that.
 

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A little more persuasion or maybe a proper DOF and we could have had him.
Not so sure. With the Glazers and Woodward at the top in this club, and the bad press they always get (deserved), then why should a very good player, albeit unproven in any 'big' league, sign for a club who's future is far from certain. He could be available in three years time, when he will be 22, I believe, with a lowish buy out clause, and has stated that he would love to play in the Premier League one day, and hopefully Manchester United will be in a far better position then.
 

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Do they really take our fans for idiots? How on earth do we stand a chance of signing Sancho and Maddison when we can't sign Bruno from a cash strapped club? Leicester and Dortmund will probably be playing in the CL next season. Next year we'll come out with the usual 'ah the Euro' excuse but hey....the money is in the bank if the price is right.
 

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What about earlier reports of 43m + 17m in add-ons? Are they pretending to play hardball now to appease their fans? Yet another bizarre United transfer saga
 

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I don't have much in faith in Woodward not fecking it up. He is reason why I didn't think we would be doing any business this window. Totally agree that we need a DoF. With us being so close to getting a deal done, it would p!ss me off if we end up waiting to the summer when his price could rise again. We clearly need of reinforcements in now.
You do know Woodward doesn't negotiate transfers? I don't know why this keeps getting repeated.
 

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Do they really take our fans for idiots? How on earth do we stand a chance of signing Sancho and Maddison when we can't sign Bruno from a cash strapped club? Leicester and Dortmund will probably be playing in the CL next season. Next year we'll come out with the usual 'ah the Euro' excuse but hey....the money is in the bank if the price is right.
How have you managed to marry those things up? The player really wants to join us but we aren't willing to pay 80m for him, which for any sane person is a perfectly reasonable stance to take.
 

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How have you managed to marry those things up? The player really wants to join us but we aren't willing to pay 80m for him, which for any sane person is a perfectly reasonable stance to take.
Have you read the quote I quoted? They mentioned Maddison and Sancho as if we've stand a choice for those two. Also top sane clubs buy players. They don't start the season with a non existing midfield and they certainly don't linger at 5th place with a strong chance of being worse then that by the end of the weekend. But hey lets keep the money in the bank/shareholders pockets. That will bring trophies in.
 

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Have you read the quote I quoted? They mentioned Maddison and Sancho as if we've stand a choice for those two. Also top sane clubs buy players. They don't start the season with a non existing midfield and they certainly don't linger at 5th place with a strong chance of being worse then that by the end of the weekend. But hey lets keep the money in the bank/shareholders pockets. That will bring trophies in.
We'll remain 5th unless we get beaten by more than 7 goals.
 

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Have you read the quote I quoted? They mentioned Maddison and Sancho as if we've stand a choice for those two. Also top sane clubs buy players. They don't start the season with a non existing midfield and they certainly don't linger at 5th place with a strong chance of being worse then that by the end of the weekend. But hey lets keep the money in the bank/shareholders pockets. That will bring trophies in.
Yes. And, and as I wrote, you've inexplicably linked that to our refusal to spend 80m on Bruno, which is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. We aren't 'struggling' to sign him at all, we just don't want to overpay.

No they don't, but again, what has that got to do with the point at hand? You're all over the place here. And are you really predicting we lose by 8 goals?
 

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Does anyone really know how much Sporting are asking, and whether add one, or player swaps are on the agenda. I've always made a point of ignoring what the media spouts, as 90+% is garbage, and unfortunately, some posters, as seen previously, fall for this garbage. We know that we need at least one new midfielder in this window, but from past transfer fails, this is far from certain, it seems that the purse strings are yet to be loosened.
 

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Slightly off topic but watching Longstaff vs Chelsea (subbed on) we’d have been stupid to have paid what Newcastle were asking for in the summer. Maybe the club isn’t as stupid as our fans think...
 

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Yes. And, and as I wrote, you've inexplicably linked that to our refusal to spend 80m on Bruno, which is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. We aren't 'struggling' to sign him at all, we just don't want to overpay.

No they don't, but again, what has that got to do with the point at hand? You're all over the place here. And are you really predicting we lose by 8 goals?
It's strange logic. Let's throw 80 mil on Bruno so we can buy Sancho and Maddison in the future. Cause they'll then come cheap.
 

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Have you read the quote I quoted? They mentioned Maddison and Sancho as if we've stand a choice for those two. Also top sane clubs buy players. They don't start the season with a non existing midfield and they certainly don't linger at 5th place with a strong chance of being worse then that by the end of the weekend. But hey lets keep the money in the bank/shareholders pockets. That will bring trophies in.
Let's close the club.
 

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We shouldn’t overpay for him. If he’s available for the right price, ok fine. If not, we should wait for maddison in the summer.
 

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It's strange logic. Let's throw 80 mil on Bruno so we can buy Sancho and Maddison in the future. Cause they'll then come cheap.
I find myself repeatedly defending our board here and I don't like it! :lol:

We can still think they are shit without declaring every decision they make terrible.
 

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Yes. And, and as I wrote, you've inexplicably linked that to our refusal to spend 80m on Bruno, which is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. We aren't 'struggling' to sign him at all, we just don't want to overpay.

No they don't, but again, what has that got to do with the point at hand? You're all over the place here. And are you really predicting we lose by 8 goals?
As said everyone keep asking the impossible from us, dybala, haaland and now sporting. Meanwhile herrera, Lukaku and young left, pogba wants to leave as well and we look set to continue the season how we started it ie with no midfield or RW. Name me one top club with money to spend who are in such shit situation

Or maybe the money is simply not.... Oh look we are linked with Jadon and Maddison. They are surely turning CL football down to play for us
 

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I’m not normally keen on us getting rinsed out but I don’t care on this one let’s just pay the money and get it sorted he could potentially be amazing for us.
 

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I’m not normally keen on us getting rinsed out but I don’t care on this one let’s just pay the money and get it sorted he could potentially be amazing for us.
It sets a bad precedent. Every club we try to buy from will try and fleece us if they know we’ll reluctantly stump up the cash. Hell, this is the reason Sporting are trying it. Long term it causes more problems.
 

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It's strange logic. Let's throw 80 mil on Bruno so we can buy Sancho and Maddison in the future. Cause they'll then come cheap.
We won't get Sancho or Maddison unless we are in the CL. Why are we so naive?
 

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Another one is Bravo £16m

City under Pep have got it right more often than not but they still pay high prices for players and buy in quality. The difference is with they have continuity of personnel and are buying players to fit a particular style of play. They have then integrated those players into the team very well.

Rodrigo £63m
Cancelo £58m (Jury is still out on him)
Mahrez £61m
Laporte £58m
Mendy £52m
Walker £48m
B.Silva £45m
Ederson £35m

That's only the last 3 seasons. Give Ole another couple of windows, see how the squad looks and how the team is playing.

It is early days yet!
Not sure why you had to have a sly dig at Ole, but anyho, Pep walked into a club with a squad full of 'experienced' players most who had won the Premier League under two different Managers only recently, all that was needed was a slight tweak, and he had a head start with that having his bud Txiki there a few years previous knowing what Pep would want when he arrived, but they still got it badly wrong, doesn't half help though if you can bin the duds of 6 months later, or in Mangala's case send him out on loan and hope everybody forgot about him, and the spend even more on their replacement, if you're expecting United to be able to do similar you're going to have a very long wait. DOF's are so last year anyway.
 

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As said everyone keep asking the impossible from us, dybala, haaland and now sporting. Meanwhile herrera, Lukaku and young left, pogba wants to leave as well and we look set to continue the season how we started it ie with no midfield or RW. Name me one top club with money to spend who are in such shit situation

Or maybe the money is simply not.... Oh look we are linked with Jadon and Maddison. They are surely turning CL football down to play for us
Seriously, you really are all over the place. Can't you just discuss the point at hand without digressing into a monologue about how terrible the owners/board/club are?
 

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Ed is briefing his sources like crazy today. The excuses have started and it looks eerily similar to Haaland. Embarrassment.
I was afraid of this deal breaking down and others will be the same. Woodward is pulling the wool over all our eyes.
The amount of conspiracy theories around this is hilarious, why don’t people use logic around here and take it for what it is?

It astounds me how arrogant some fans are when they think that Woodward & Man Utd (Funny as, iirc woodward doesn’t even negotiate) give that much of a f*ck that they’d go through all this just to nake it some ruse to appear as if we’re signing someone or they’re so incompetent that they need to make a PR spin. - Jesus wept.

Er No, Sporting raised the price and dont want to pay it. Simple as that.


No it is NOT. They upped the asking price to 80m euros. He is not worth that sum simple as that.
Glad someone else can see this & is mature enough to not overthink and conjure up of some elaborate hoax of what the club *might* be doing, when in fact it’s far simpler and easier to understand than that
 
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People keep mentioning "overpay". What is overpay?

Sporting can ask what they want for their best player. English clubs have loads of money so Sporting will ask even more.

Midtable teams can pay 40m if they want.

Manchester United is the top when it comes to financial power from the financial powerhouse that is the Premier League. Would asking 70m even be 'asking for too much'? A lot of people seem to live in the past when 40m was still a lot of money for a player...
 
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Neither was Fred!
don’t know which point you were replying to, as there was two. City were interested in Fred, but we clearly had a free run at him at that price.

Fred has not convinced me, he was awful last season, and at least functions as a midfielder this season, but he’s not even better than Herrera.

Just because we got screwed on the Fred transfer, it doesn’t mean should should just repeat the same sort of transfer.
 

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Seriously, you really are all over the place. Can't you just discuss the point at hand without digressing into a monologue about how terrible the owners/board/club are?
We are already making excuses just in case we miss out on yet another signing. But thank god the money is there to support the manager but only if the price is right. Meanwhile the manager of a supposed top team will probably continue the season without a cm
 

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People keep mentioning "overpay". What is overpay?

Sporting can ask what they want for their best player. English clubs have loads of money so Sporting will ask even more.

Midtable teams can pay 40m if they want.

Manchester United is the top when it comes to financial power from the financial powerhouse that is the Premier League. Would asking 70m even be 'asking for too much'? A lot of people seem to live in the past when 40m was still a lot of money for a player...
Overpay is when the club pay more than their valuation of the player.
 

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It sets a bad precedent. Every club we try to buy from will try and fleece us if they know we’ll reluctantly stump up the cash. Hell, this is the reason Sporting are trying it. Long term it causes more problems.
I get that and normally I’d be in agreement with you but in this instance we need to just pay the 70m-80m and get it over with. We surely don’t have such a bad rep to always get fleeced we paid too much for Maguire but AWB and James where reasonable deals. We either spend it on Bruno or debt repayments
 

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that's why the money is better off at the bank or in shareholders pockets. Meanwhile lets fight for 5th place with basically no midfield whatsoever. That's what top football franchises do. The money is still there to be spent if the price is right though. 30m for Fernandes, 50m for Neymar, 40m for Maddison etc.
50m for who ?
 
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