[Dve]

Martial´s best position is as a nr. 9. In the run of a long season, it´s quite normal that players go through periods with dropped form. In the end, they are sportsmen, not robots. One month ago everyone praised Martial´s performances and agreed up front was his best position. He does not take those long runs like Rashford does out wide, and also James in his best games.

You could move him to the left to get him more involved, if his involvements help the team. Martial looks a bit down in energy at the moment, he could come back much stronger after the break. And that goes for a lot of our players, there´s been a lot of games on a thin squad. He was injured for a longer period and may also lack some basic fitness training with a hamstring.

 

[Eplel]

I'm still a fan of his talent, but the way he gives up when he loses the ball and just sits there and with that stupid stare in his face is really getting to my nerves.

LIKE MATE THE BALL IS STILL IN PLAY AND EVERY OPPONENT AND THEIR GRANDMOTHERS ARE PLAYING LIKE THEIR LIVES ARE DEPENDING ON IT AND YOU JUST SIT THERE LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU FORGOT THE OVEN ON WHEN YOU LEFT THE HOUSE

 

[arthurka]

Been saying this for a while now he is the problem not the position or the managers. He needs someone to come in get some players in his position and tell him to man up or get out. Tired of this Martial malarchy 5th season running.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

You were slagging off Rashford during his period of poor form. Now that he has proven you wrong. You are doing the same thing again with Martial.



Some people just love a good moan.

If Martial proves me wrong, I'm more than happy to be wrong.

You also don't think he's good enough either, so not sure why you're singling me out.

All those critiques of Rashford were fair and my critiques of Martial aren't just me 'slagging' him off. Plenty of others share the same critiques.

 

[Dve]

Been saying this for a while now he is the problem but the position or the managers. He needs someone to come in get some players in his position and tell him to man up or get out. Tired of this Martial malarchy 5th season running.

The problem is the lack of options, not Martial. He should play when he´s in form and rest when he´s not. It would be ok to have Martial if we had someone like Haaland as well.

 

[hmchan]

Martial´s best position is as a nr. 9. In the run of a long season, it´s quite normal that players go through periods with dropped form. In the end, they are sportsmen, not robots. One month ago everyone praised Martial´s performances and agreed up front was his best position. He does not take those long runs like Rashford does out wide, and also James in his best games.

You could move him to the left to get him more involved, if his involvements help the team. Martial looks a bit down in energy at the moment, he could come back much stronger after the break. And that goes for a lot of our players, there´s been a lot of games on a thin squad. He was injured for a longer period and may also lack some basic fitness training with a hamstring.

It's true that every player experiences bad runs of form. Difference is, when other top strikers are in bad form, they can still create chances and spaces for their teammates. But when Martial is having a bad day, it's like we are playing with a man down. This is not only due to occasional out of form, but also his lack of movement, teamwork and desire to participate in the game. Together with his poor center forward play, I never feel no. 9 is the best position for him, even when he is scoring.

In fact, without the above-mentioned qualities, I can hardly see him success in any position. He has to improve in those elements as well as his knowledge of the game or he will just be another failed wonderkid. Without a consistent no. 9, our team will also be inconsistent.

 

[Bebestation]

For me it's just very simple -

You want a poacher type striker who makes runs in to the box then you will need different wider players with an element of goals but more importantly creativity.

You want a striker like Martial then you need wider players who makes runs in to the box and scores the goals and the creativity is not that important as we see with Rashford & Greenwood playing off him.

Right now Martial is completely lost doing the poachers job whilst he still has the natural instincts to play the other way. He gets played with players like Mata & James who don't make the runs Rashford do and neither are they even remotely as clinical.

So yes - he is not a number 9 who sticks in the box like Zlatan but he is a deep lying forward which is p*** obvious.

If he goes because he doesn't have the support of the fans or the next manager then so be it.

It's a very hard tactic to pull off so it doesn't surprise me that only the best managers ever use it utilising the best players - but I'm sure this Martial is a LF crap won't happen at another club and atleast they will also try it out.

 

[MikeKing]

We're asking him to be world class in a team that isn't. He isn't word class himself, and definitely isn't the type do bring it out when the going gets tough. Which is about every game right now. So it's fine. I hope we keep him as a rotation option rather than selling him though, after we've upgraded. 12 goals and 4 assist isn't bad. For comparison, it's the same exact stats as Griezmann has this season. Better than Richardlison with two more goals. Also doing much better this season than Coman, Lemar, Plea, Dembele and Giroud.

I think he has sucked complete ass in the last 5 games or so. His touch and imagination has been off and has just ran out of ideas on the ball. His form will turn around like it always does and we'll be happy to have him. We just can't rely on him alone, he has gotten a chance to deserve a starting place and he hasn't taken it. He'll just have to be content with less game time next season if his form and consistency doesn't improve.

 

[spiriticon]

He just seems on a different wavelength to everyone else sometimes. Zero communication.

He makes runs when nobody else expects him to, and he doesn't make runs when everyone else expects him to.

Very wierd player to link up with and it's a shame that this lack of communication with his teammates will prevent him from being a top tier striker.

 

[JPRouve]

For me it's just very simple -

You want a poacher type striker who makes runs in to the box then you will need different wider players with an element of goals but more importantly creativity.

You want a striker like Martial then you need wider players who makes runs in to the box and scores the goals and the creativity is not that important as we see with Rashford & Greenwood playing off him.

Right now Martial is completely lost doing the poachers job whilst he still has the natural instincts to play the other way. He gets played with players like Mata & James who don't make the runs Rashford do and neither are they even remotely as clinical.

So yes - he is not a number 9 who sticks in the box like Zlatan but he is a deep lying forward which is p*** obvious.

If he goes because he doesn't have the support of the fans or the next manager then so be it.

It's a very hard tactic to pull off so it doesn't surprise me that only the best managers ever use it utilising the best players - but I'm sure this Martial is a LF crap won't happen at another club and atleast they will also try it out.

Zlatan does not sticks in the box, he had the habits of dropping deep and try to playmake. That's why for example players like Cavani and Lucas Moura were good complement, they would make runs into the box while Ibrahimovic was vacating the area upfront, now something that Ibrahimovic would do was a double movement where he woul d position himself at the edge of the box for a back pass and/or make a late run at either the first or second post but he would rarely sticks in the box.

 

[romufc]

You were slagging off Rashford during his period of poor form. Now that he has proven you wrong. You are doing the same thing again with Martial.



Some people just love a good moan.

The state of the fan group. We had Dan James, Mata and Perreira creating. You will not win PL games with them 3. Dan James goes down the line and puts in rubbish crosses and holds his face everytime.

When Bruno played 10, you could see he was finding Martial, but he needs runners off hi for anything to work. There was 0 movement.

I cannot understand why Greenwood does not start.

 

[He'sRaldo]

He just seems on a different wavelength to everyone else sometimes. Zero communication.

He makes runs when nobody else expects him to, and he doesn't make runs when everyone else expects him to.

Very wierd player to link up with and it's a shame that this lack of communication with his teammates will prevent him from being a top tier striker.

I remember him scolding Pereira at the end of one match when he made multiple runs and Pereira messed up the final ball every single time. Maybe he doesn't communicate as much in-game, I haven't really noticed, but he probably does so outside it.

I noticed after that incident, Pereira started making more effort to try and find Martial in the buildup (even to a fault) but the decision-making is still lacking.

 

[Bebestation]

Zlatan does not sticks in the box, he had the habits of dropping deep and try to playmake. That's why for example players like Cavani and Lucas Moura were good complement, they would make runs into the box while Ibrahimovic was vacating the area upfront, now something that Ibrahimovic would do was a double movement where he woul d position himself at the edge of the box for a back pass and/or make a late run at either the first or second post but he would rarely sticks in the box.

That's fair, I was just using Zlatans name as an example (I was going to use ighalo's & Haalands to) and it seems like it was wrong - but that actually emphasises my point - do you think Martial has players like Lucas Moura or Cavani who runs in to the box and provide the back passes that Martial is looking for?

Martial does this thing where he starts very deep with the ball at his feet, makes a 1-2 pass before making a penetrating run in to the box that usually only Rashford and him combine well with.

I think Martial's needs wider players that run in to the box to work with him because we only have Rashford & possibly Greenwood who really do. Otherwise you play Martial behind a striker or you have to drop him completely because he can't be the only forward in the team.

If we play wingers like mata, James, Lingard or pereira then it's much better for us playing a striker like ighalo who needs creativity around them rather than the use of the space created by martial dropping deep before making a late penetrative run.

 

[He'sRaldo]

That's fair, I was just using Zlatans name as an example (I was going to use ighalo's & Haalands to) and it seems like it was wrong - but that actually emphasises my point - do you think Martial has players like Lucas Moura or Cavani who runs in to the box and provide the back passes that Martial is looking for?

Martial does this thing where he starts very deep with the ball at his feet, makes a 1-2 pass before making a penetrating run in to the box that usually only Rashford and him combine well with.

I think Martial's needs wider players that run in to the box to work with him because we only have Rashford & possibly Greenwood who really do. Otherwise you play Martial behind a striker or you have to drop him completely because he can't be the only forward in the team.

If we play wingers like mata, James, Lingard or pereira then it's much better for us playing a striker like ighalo who needs creativity around them rather than the use of the space created by martial dropping deep before making a late penetrative run.

True, and all that doesn't make Martial a bad player. After all, if all we wanted was a striker who gets in the box and scores tap-ins, and doesn't need to participate in build-up play, why were we frustrated with the technique of Lukaku and rid ourselves of him? He'd have been perfect for that. Or why do we generally scoff at poacher types?

Of course, having a forward that will do both is the best option but it's very hard to find those, and they tend to be the best in the world, in high demand.

 

[JPRouve]

That's fair, I was just using Zlatans name as an example (I was going to use ighalo's & Haalands to) and it seems like it was wrong - but that actually emphasises my point - do you think Martial has players like Lucas Moura or Cavani who runs in to the box and provide the back passes that Martial is looking for?

Martial does this thing where he starts very deep with the ball at his feet, makes a 1-2 pass before making a penetrating run in to the box that usually only Rashford and him combine well with.

I think Martial's needs wider players that run in to the box to work with him because we only have Rashford & possibly Greenwood who really do. Otherwise you play Martial behind a striker or you have to drop him completely because he can't be the only forward in the team.

If we play wingers like mata, James, Lingard or pereira then it's much better for us playing a striker like ighalo who needs creativity around them rather than the use of the space created by martial dropping deep before making a late penetrative run.

I agree with you. In my opinion you either adapt the tactic to your players or you sell them and bring players that suits your tactic, that's why I was behind Lukaku's sale. Now the issue is that the coaching staff refused to adapt the attack to Lukaku and also refuse to adapt to our current group of players which doesn't make sense since Rashford and Martial are a good prolific combination but they need a third member and midfielders actually willing to pass the ball in tight spaces. An other thing none of the players that you mentioned are wingers in theory they should all be compatible with the way Martial and Rashford play, I mention Rashford because we had the same issue when Martial was injured, there is something properly wrong with James not playing as a traditional winger but also not playing as an inside forward, he doesn't make runs, doesn't carry the ball, doesn't occupy vacated space. Pereira and Mata are just missing self trust, they can make the passes in tight space that were there this weekend but they elected to mainly give it to Fernandes and hide.

As for Martial because it wouldn't be fair to name names and ignore him, his lack of technical precision in the last weeks doesn't help his teammates confidence, they are less likely to pass the ball in tight windows if they don't fully trust the receiver. The good thing with Rashford is that he has no conscience, he will try all the passes and shots that he wants and won't think about it the next minute, the others are way too self conscious.

 

[Bebestation]

True, and all that doesn't make Martial a bad player. After all, if all we wanted was a striker who gets in the box and scores tap-ins, and doesn't need to participate in build-up play, why were we frustrated with the technique of Lukaku and rid ourselves of him? He'd have been perfect for that. Or why do we generally scoff at poacher types?

Of course, having a forward that will do both is the best option but it's very hard to find those, and they tend to be the best in the world, in high demand.

Everyone on this forum saw what Martial was doing when Rashford was playing for us and whenever Greenwood came on as a sub or started - calling him the focal point who would refresh the possession centrally and hold it well and pass it around to the wider positions with ease usually to players in the pocket behind the full backs & literally hardly anyone was complaining but what happened when Rashford got injured? They completely forgot that & suddenly want him to be the poacher type striker whilst playing with Mata & Daniel James or Lingard.

He does need competition but competition is not the right word - we need a different striker for when we need the goals to come mostly centrally to the times the goals need to come out predominantly from out wide.

Martial can only be used when the goals are meant to come from out wide and then he has the space to find goals as well and vice versa.

 

[Bebestation]

I agree with you. In my opinion you either adapt the tactic to your players or you sell them and bring players that suits your tactic, that's why I was behind Lukaku's sale. Now the issue is that the coaching staff refused to adapt the attack to Lukaku and also refuse to adapt to our current group of players which doesn't make sense since Rashford and Martial are a good prolific combination but they need a third member and midfielders actually willing to pass the ball in tight spaces. An other thing none of the players that you mentioned are wingers in theory they should all be compatible with the way Martial and Rashford play, I mention Rashford because we had the same issue when Martial was injured, there is something properly wrong with James not playing as a traditional winger but also not playing as an inside forward, he doesn't make runs, doesn't carry the ball, doesn't occupy vacated space. Pereira and Mata are just missing self trust, they can make the passes in tight space that were there this weekend but they elected to mainly give it to Fernandes and hide.

As for Martial because it wouldn't be fair to name names and ignore him, his lack of technical precision in the last weeks doesn't help his teammates confidence, they are less likely to pass the ball in tight windows if they don't fully trust the receiver. The good thing with Rashford is that he has no conscience, he will try all the passes and shots that he wants and won't think about it the next minute, the others are way too self conscious.

And I was like you - I was okay with Lukaku leaving because I could see that he could not interlink long term with players like Rashford, Martial & Greenwood long term which I think is our strongest line up in exactly that set up. Almost let Rashford & Greenwood play in a wide forwards strikers partnership whilst martial drops deep.

However, at the start of the season I was left confused with us buying Daniel James and him playing RW because again this leaves us with a traditional winger crossing in to absolutely no one in to the box except for maybe Rashford on the complete opposite end of the field & he did get some goals that way.

Yet we can't have traditional wingers, CAM playing wide like Mata, Pereira or even Lingard when our striker is playing deep either - then it's much better to have a traditional number 9 poacher striker utilise those chances they may create than have a player trying to do his thing almost in CAM positions.

We still need a goal scoring RF in my opinion, our Rashford on the right to get the best out of Martial as a tactic.

 

[iHicksy]

I've always wanted us to use Martial as a number 9 because I thought he was our best finisher. But the more I watch him the more I see his movement just isn't there. He's better running at players and one of the few players for us that can score from outside the box. My issue with him is that he just doesn't have any football intelligence. The number of games i've seen this season where there's space to move into and he just stands static ball watching tells me he just can't be relied upon as a number 9. It's really annoying as you know he has fantastic talent in there. But you can't help but feel he projects an air of laziness when he plays as a 9 and we're not on the counter.
So, we can't play him as a left forward because Rashford's best position is there and his recent form has earned him the right to be the starter. We can't play him as a 9 because he just isn't smart enough to play that position. So, really that leaves the right forward position. I'd be wiling to try him there but i'm pretty sure we've done so before and it just didn't work. If he's willing to accept a role as a backup left forward to rashford and the main striker then he's worth keeping because he's capable of cutting in and scoring stunners. Otherwise, i'd say get rid and bring in someone else.

 

[AshRK]

Maybe Ighalo's signing would help him get back to the groove.

 

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[Rolaholic]

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Been strange to see how much different the narrative has been when it comes to both.

Martial gets raked over the coals even though Rashford had the same struggles when the roles and injury were reversed earlier in the season.

 

[Andersonson]

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Some good points, Lukaku being better than Martial I very much agree with. No service, sure. But still, as he said, we sold our best CF, meaning Martial isnt better than Lukaku. We need someone better than Lukaku - so we absolutely need someone better than Martial.

 

[JPRouve]

Some good points, Lukaku being better than Martial I very much agree with. No service, sure. But still, as he said, we sold our best CF, meaning Martial isnt better than Lukaku. We need someone better than Lukaku - so we absolutely need someone better than Martial.

Lukaku being our best CF is questionable, at United in the league he didn't had a better record than Martial or Rashford currently have and they both had to play in a weaker side due to injuries to several key players.

 

[Andersonson]

Lukaku being our best CF is questionable, at United in the league he didn't had a better record than Martial or Rashford currently have and they both had to play in a weaker side due to injuries to several key players.

In terms of stats Lukaku is way ahead though. Even when he played for Everton and WBA who I consider worse teams than United. And the service Lukaku got from Martial was poor, as he aint a service-minded winger to be fair

 

[DoomSlayer]

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Been strange to see how much different the narrative has been when it comes to both.

Martial gets raked over the coals even though Rashford had the same struggles when the roles and injury were reversed earlier in the season.

You mean the same Rashford that was called "Rashbeck", "Rashford", being a kick and run merchant, should be playing in League 2? That guy?

 

[JPRouve]

In terms of stats Lukaku is way ahead though. Even when he played for Everton and WBA who I consider worse teams than United. And the service Lukaku got from Martial was poor, as he aint a service-minded winger to be fair

No he isn't. In his best season for us Lukaku scored 16 goals in the league in about 2900 minutes, while Martial is for example currently at 8 in 1500 minutes. And the service Lukaku had was comparatively better with almost always having one of Martial, Rashford or Pogba playing with him while Martial and Rashford have playede a significant amount of games where they were alone this season.

 

[Andersonson]

No he isn't. In his best season for us Lukaku scored 16 goals in the league in about 2900 minutes, while Martial is for example currently at 8 in 1500 minutes. And the service Lukaku had was comparatively better with almost always having one of Martial, Rashford or Pogba playing with him while Martial and Rashford have playede a significant amount of games where they were alone this season.

A good player gets playing time. He hasnt deserved more playing time because he had better players playing instead of him. Martial will never reach the tallys Lukaku has had. He is also the fastest player to reach 20 goals for inter in their history.

Even when Lukuaku was playing badly for us he provided more than Martial in terms of team play. Martial has never come close to even lukakus third best season in the prem. And sadly doesnt look like he ever will. Giving hlm a 250(?) K pr week was a huge mistanke. There are loads of better strikers in the league and I bet we will be in for one when the summer starts and he will be back on the bench again

 

[Posh Red]

A good player gets playing time. He hasnt deserved more playing time because he had better players playing instead of him. Martial will never reach the tallys Lukaku has had. He is also the fastest player to reach 20 goals for inter in their history.

Even when Lukuaku was playing badly for us he provided more than Martial in terms of team play. Martial has never come close to even lukakus third best season in the prem. And sadly doesnt look like he ever will. Giving hlm a 250(?) K pr week was a huge mistanke. There are loads of better strikers in the league and I bet we will be in for one when the summer starts and he will be back on the bench again

What are you on about? Martial has basically played whenever he’s been fit. He’s been out injured - that’s why his minutes are lower.

 

[JPRouve]

A good player gets playing time. He hasnt deserved more playing time because he had better players playing instead of him. Martial will never reach the tallys Lukaku has had. He is also the fastest player to reach 20 goals for inter in their history.

Even when Lukuaku was playing badly for us he provided more than Martial in terms of team play. Martial has never come close to even lukakus third best season in the prem. And sadly doesnt look like he ever will. Giving hlm a 250(?) K pr week was a huge mistanke. There are loads of better strikers in the league and I bet we will be in for one when the summer starts and he will be back on the bench again

I don't carea bout what he does for Inter, we are talking about United and what he would do in a similar context to Martial's. We already know that he scored in the league 16 and 12 goals which is not better than Martial current rhythm. And Martial has been a starter this season, he simply missed almost 2 months of football due to injury.

 

[Andersonson]

What are you on about? Martial has basically played whenever he’s been fit. He’s been out injured - that’s why his minutes are lower.

Under Ole, yes, was not the case under Jose. Just look up the stats. He came on from the bench.
This and his first season he's been first choice.

I don't carea bout what he does for Inter, we are talking about United and what he would do in a similar context to Martial's. We already know that he scored in the league 16 and 12 goals which is not better than Martial current rhythm. And Martial has been a starter this season, he simply missed almost 2 months of football due to injury.

You think Martial will reach 16? I will eat my shoes if that happens. I think we'll buy a new striker in the window, because he's figured out by now. He doesnt really offer anything.

We would be better off having Glen Murray, and im being serious. Atleast he runs, not fast, but he runs and he's on 1/5 of Martials wage and they score the same amount of goals.

 

[Canagel]

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Been strange to see how much different the narrative has been when it comes to both.

Martial gets raked over the coals even though Rashford had the same struggles when the roles and injury were reversed earlier in the season.

Interesting...

 

[JPRouve]

You think Martial will reach 16? I will eat my shoes if that happens. I think we'll buy a new striker in the window, because he's figured out by now. He doesnt really offer anything.

We would be better off having Glen Murray, and im being serious. Atleast he runs, not fast, but he runs and he's on 1/5 of Martials wage and they score the same amount of goals.

He has 8 in 1500 minutes, so there is no reason to think that under normal circumstances he couldn't have 16 in a 3000 minutes season. The issue is that without Rashford and Pogba, we are unlikely to be good in the last third but maybe Fernandes will be a difference maker.

 

[OL29]

Under Ole, yes, was not the case under Jose. Just look up the stats. He came on from the bench.
This and his first season he's been first choice.



You think Martial will reach 16? I will eat my shoes if that happens. I think we'll buy a new striker in the window, because he's figured out by now. He doesnt really offer anything.

We would be better off having Glen Murray, and im being serious. Atleast he runs, not fast, but he runs and he's on 1/5 of Martials wage and they score the same amount of goals.

The guy who’s scored 1 in 17 this season? At 36 years old? Behave

 

[MadDogg]

A good player gets playing time. He hasnt deserved more playing time because he had better players playing instead of him. Martial will never reach the tallys Lukaku has had. He is also the fastest player to reach 20 goals for inter in their history.

Even when Lukuaku was playing badly for us he provided more than Martial in terms of team play. Martial has never come close to even lukakus third best season in the prem. And sadly doesnt look like he ever will. Giving hlm a 250(?) K pr week was a huge mistanke. There are loads of better strikers in the league and I bet we will be in for one when the summer starts and he will be back on the bench again

Did you watch us play last season? Lukaku was absolutely disgraceful and provided nothing to the team except for a sure-fire way to lose the ball. He couldn't hold the ball up (Martial is doing this far better), he couldn't bring others into play (Martial is doing this far better), and even his goal scoring (the one thing Lukaku is supposed to really bring) was statistically worse than what Martial has done this season.

As for your comment about Martial not deserving more playing time because he had better players playing ahead of him, that blatantly wasn't the case. He had firmly established himself as our best option on the left (and our best attacker in general at the time) when we bought Sanchez, only to lose his spot and basically not get a chance again despite the fact that Sanchez was performing far far worse than Martial had been. He also didn't get any kind of chance up front last season while Lukaku was quite probably the worst constant starter in the entire league.

 

[RUCK4444]

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Been strange to see how much different the narrative has been when it comes to both.

Martial gets raked over the coals even though Rashford had the same struggles when the roles and injury were reversed earlier in the season.

That is a surprising stat. However I do side with the folk who give Martial more stick than Rashford.

Rashford influences the game far more, he pushes himself for the 90 minutes and even if he comes up short on the score sheet he, at the very least, always gives the opposition something to think about and effects the way they play. Martial offers none of that. He can VERY easily go missing for the vast majority of games.

Quite often Martial starts well in a game but once things don't go his way he starts to wane and jogs with his feckin head to the sky. Infuriates me and many others I'm sure.

We would be crazy to rely on Martial as a no 9 for a club of our stature for the long term.

Easiest way to evaluate Martials performances (or lack of) would be to compare his influence on games to other top teams forwards, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Aguero, Sterling, Son. The thing he's missing to all those players? Desire, attitude, application.

 

[Andersonson]

What are you on about? Martial has basically played whenever he’s been fit. He’s been out injured - that’s why his minutes are lower.

Did you watch us play last season? Lukaku was absolutely disgraceful and provided nothing to the team except for a sure-fire way to lose the ball. He couldn't hold the ball up (Martial is doing this far better), he couldn't bring others into play (Martial is doing this far better), and even his goal scoring (the one thing Lukaku is supposed to really bring) was statistically worse than what Martial has done this season.

As for your comment about Martial not deserving more playing time because he had better players playing ahead of him, that blatantly wasn't the case. He had firmly established himself as our best option on the left (and our best attacker in general at the time) when we bought Sanchez, only to lose his spot and basically not get a chance again despite the fact that Sanchez was performing far far worse than Martial had been. He also didn't get any kind of chance up front last season while Lukaku was quite probably the worst constant starter in the entire league.

Hard to take this even remotly serious when you say Lukaku was the worst constant starter in the league, even though his last season he scored more than Martial has ever done for us in a season. It just doesnt add up, unless you now think Martial is the worst constant starter in the league.

 

[Amar__]

Rashford plays wide and is involved far more in the build up, creates more. Not surprising at all.

 

[roonster09]

Hard to take this even remotly serious when you say Lukaku was the worst constant starter in the league, even though his last season he scored more than Martial has ever done for us in a season. It just doesnt add up, unless you now think Martial is the worst constant starter in the league.

Or maybe they think Martial wasn't constant starter which will be back up by the number of mins he played.

 

[Kostur]

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Been strange to see how much different the narrative has been when it comes to both.

Martial gets raked over the coals even though Rashford had the same struggles when the roles and injury were reversed earlier in the season.

One is a #9, the other one is a winger/inside forward coming from the left.

 

[roonster09]

One is a #9, the other one is a winger/inside forward coming from the left.

Also Rashford won all the penalties he scored in PL IIRC. So looking at simple goal stats won't highlight their seasons, Rashford was consistent threat, so much that he won 4 or more penalties in league alone and that too against teams like City, Spurs, Leicester, Chelsea.