I didn’t say the document didn’t “exsist”
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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I didn’t say the document didn’t “exsist”
Need to take a break from this. Frazzled my fecking brain by following it non-stop over the weekend and today.
Off tomorrow, just gonna play videogames all day.
Off tomorrow, just gonna play videogames all day.
Nah. Death coding is pretty standardised across most of the developed world. Research shows coding is pretty reliable on review.
I don’t see that happening in the UK. People would suss a cover up pretty quickly and it would have to be massive political conspiracy for that to happen.
I think they haven't developed a reliable test yet, but it will be crucial.
Your link actually confirms what i said, the link states
‘The Pirbright Institute has a patent for a type of coronavirus affecting animals (primarily chickens). I said a coronavirus i did NOT say THIS specific Corona virus.
Your link also says:
‘The Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation did fund a research center in England called the Pirbright Institute’
So i actually was NOT lying.
Enough for today!
Wrong Berba, I think.Sorry for my loss?
Wrong poster sorry, I should of went back a few pages to double check to be honestSorry for my loss?
I was close enough then
You've said that multiple times now. Any chance of, you know, actually doing that instead of spamming this actually useful thread?
So without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it’s time for us to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?
The Florida key scrolls.
Of course they dont. They pool advice from the heads of hospital trusts who in turn go down the chain themselves. Do you expect them to take a straw poll from random doctors?
The WHO are a waste of space because if they hadnt been so toothless in the beginning a lot of countries wouldn't be in the situation they are in now. Their reputation will be permanently tarnished by this and rightly so.
Just give up dude. Ignore button exists for some reason.
Anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists are annoying at the best of times, at the worst of times, they are simply unsufferable. Trying to have a chat with one is like repeatedly crashing your head against the wall.
Anti-vaxxers are the first people to hoard toilet roll because most of what comes out of them is shit.
Getting closer to something I suggested back in early Feb. Cant help but think if we acted then, it would never have reached this stage of pure chaos.
I believe 7-10% need hospitalization and of those 5% need an ICU bed. Figures are very fluid and Pogue found a paper that suggested ICU needs were much higher but I think (hope) that 0.35% needing an ICU bed is close.
Enough for the week actually.
Everyone, please switch back to discussing the actual subject of the thread.
Thank you!
Feck. A close mate of mine is in Cusco, Peru at the moment. Last time she messaged me was Friday. Since heard of an unrelated friend of a friend there who's trapped inside a fully booked hostel. Police and military out in the streets. They've been told there's enough food and drink for 14 days and after that they don't know. Apparently they've been randomly arresting Europeans, including pulling them out of the hostel. British Embassy is closed and phone call to Foreign and Commonwealth Office got cut off after 2 hours of no answer. Don't know where my mate is at currently. Scary as feck.
Exactly, except they haven't gone down the chains appropriately and garnered the salient information...the outcome? Absolutely shite advice which leaves us in the state we're in now. Any critical care/ICU/anaesthetist worth their weight could have told them there weren't enough ICU beds, but to misrepresent this by double? Jesus.
The Government have fecked this up royally...they're trying to save face with a significant U-turn without actually saying sorry for getting it so wrong. You can't lay all the blame on the WHO for stubborn governments trying to do their own thing. You have to admit from the start, the UK's approach has been at odds with many nearby countries.
Oh man. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully your mate is okay and you hear from him soon. Messed up thing about this is how much shit can be going on around the world that will hardly or never see the light of day because of the attention being elsewhere.
If this is the case, isn't the issue then not the government but the NHS management who have alledgedly not passed on the correct information because they have not managed to speak to frontline staff effectively?
Except they aren't going to save much face. Instead, many more people are probably going to die because of their stupidity.
Our live BBC broadcast is going ahead on Wednesday afternoon, with no congregation allowed in. All choir activities suspended indefinitely thereafter.
NHS management has always been awful. I would lay blame on both: 1) the management for, as usual, terrible communication. 2) the Government for their treatment of the NHS and refusal to even acknowledge the WHO before now. Also the seemingly complete lack of any plan for a pandemic. It's quite clear from the information we've been receiving from the Scottish Government that nobody has ever thought this could ever happen. Even after SARS, MERS, Swine flu etc.
Thank you good sir for your timely intervention.
I saw a YouTube video of Bill Gates talking about the affect of Spanish Flu and how this could be the biggest killer of humans in history. That was only a couple of years ago I watched it, never expected it to happen in my lifetime.
conspiracy theory people often try to shut down a discussion with "enough for today" or such when people start bringing logic and facts into the debate
how much cognitive dissonance do you need to keep believing your shit when every time someone tries to actually debate you on it you run for the hills
how much cognitive dissonance do you need to keep believing your shit when every time someone tries to actually debate you on it you run for the hills
Thanks. I know she was going to some retreat in the middle of nowhere but don't know when exactly. She could be there now. I don't know if that's better or worse.
We were in a similar boat but were lucky to get out of Europe. UK still seem way too calm about this compared to the entire world. The public will get a rude awakening in the next two weeks. Can see riots in London whilst idiots shoplift supplies. It’s going to get messy and moaning on FB about the lack of toilet roll will be the least of their worries.
Sadly I think you can say this about many countries. In a perverse way, we are "lucky" that this strain isn't as bad as it could have been (with fairly low mortality rates). One has to hope that we learn from this and be better prepared in the future if and when something similar happens again - particularly if new strains are deadlier.
Oh Christ yeah. Didn't even think about rioting. Will only take a group of idiots to start something potentially big.
I can get them somewhere to stay for the duration with food. Cusco, Lima or Arequita. A few different women in their 40's or 50's. They actually offered this on our page.
PM me if you want me to ask.
Its been clear in my mind for some time. I still remember the London riots and I was quite scared back then. I can't remember if the army was deployed back then (don't think so) but I think it is very likely that the army will be deployed at some point to try to prevent this from happening.
Oh without a doubt. I was reading an interesting article about how Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan etc are doing such a good job - they were predominantly involved in SARS and MERS. They've learnt their lesson, they have protocols in place and that has been evident with their infection rates. China, to an extent, are doing a decent job of containing it with their action.
It annoys me that I can find a protocol on how to do any menial thing on the NHS intranet, but there seems to be absolutely no contingency plan within the UK for this kind of thing. Thus, it results in a floundering government giving guidelines at odds with WHO advice and therefore making it difficult for medical staff to actually know what to do. Of course we follow the government guidelines but all the time knowing it likely isn't the right way to go and screaming into a black hole for weeks that there's not enough beds...at all.
The government advice for us in the NHS has changed 3 times in one week. I get that the situation is fluid and everychanging, but the constant changing of advice is resulting in confusion. There's no clear direction.
Just frustrates me. Sorry.
That could be great, thanks Ian. She was definitely in Cusco. Was at Machu Picchu Friday. And I know she had plans to go to a jungle retreat but don't know when. I'll let you know when we manage to get hold of her.
If she booked into a jungle retreat for an ayahuasca ceremony, she will need to hand her mobile over on entrance.
Did she say how many days she paid for? It's not cheap for most folk.