Protests following the killing of George Floyd

[MrMarcello]

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It's like something from the 700 Club.

 

[sammsky1]

Been listening to a lot of 5 live and 1 extra today. A very emotional day. I think I'm going to have to have a rethink of my views on life.

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[George Owen]

@onemanarmy I prefer Guns n Roses - Civil War

Spoiler

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said, "Peace could last forever."?
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
An' I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land

I prefer these ones:

Kreator - Hordes of Chaos

Spoiler

Violent chaos haunting me
Mirror of countless human tragedies
Times of horror, constant lies
Totalitarian autocracy's demise
Fake peace, a necrologue for the elite
Brutality among the weak
While children die for armageddon victory's breed
This necrologue for the elite
Like raging beasts among the sheep
While flags are waving everywhere
They scream

Hordes of chaos
Hordes of chaos
Everyone against everyone - chaos
Hordes of chaos
Hordes of chaos
Everyone against everyone - chaos

Brutal riots left and right
Out to destroy, willing to die
Honour killing in blood is she'd
A cruel reality in empires built in sand
Dark war, more gruesome then ever before
Supports this decadence galore
A tyrants feast on shoulders
Of the poorest of the poor
The necrologue for the elite
The rise of the heartless bourgoise
While flags are waving
Everywhere they scream

Hordes of chaos
Hordes of chaos
Everyone against everyone - chaos
Hordes of chaos
Hordes of chaos
Everyone against everyone - chaos

Ultimate crimes, ultimate hate, ultimate war
Ultimate fear, ultimate pain, ultimate terror!

Ultimate death, ultimate sin, ultimate scorn
The ultimate control of masses of everyone!

Now scream
Now scream! Everyone against everyone!
Chaos! Everyone against everyone!
Chaos! Everyone against everyone!
Chaos! Everyone against everyone!
Everyone against everyone!
Everyone against everyone!
Everyone against everyone!
Everyone against everyone!

EVERYONE AGAINST EVERYONE
AGAINST EVERYONE
AGAINST EVERYONE
AGAINST EVERYONE
AGAINST EVERYONE
AGAINST EVERYONE!

HORDES OF CHAOS!

Kreator - Civilization Collapse

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Let there be darkness
Let there be blood tonight
Let there be riots
Come start the fires tonight
Can't you see our people have got no choice but to fight them back?
Can't you see the change of consciousness demands a total attack?
Total attack
Finally they're swarming in
A long forgotten youth
The cause of inequality
A paradise for few
Superior, inferior
A vast insanity
When justice is tyranny
Anarchy is breaking out
Destruction marks their way
Burning temples turning into
Dark crypts of decay
The mighty are the fallen now
The weak are on the hunt
Battle on many fronts
There will be darkness
There will be blood tonight
Now let the riots begin
Convulsed by protest
At civilization collapse

Monumental terror
Spreading like a pestilence
From suburbs to the center
Of colossal arrogance
Cascade of aggression
Merely harvest seeds of hate
Storming the barricades
Cities of inception
Burn to ashes in one night
Imperators crying at this grand historic sight
Entering a death spiral tonight they see their fate
Doomed to reincarnate

There will be darkness
There will be blood tonight
So let the riots begin
A social unrest
At civilization collapse

and of course

Kreator - People of the Lie
"The words "image, appearance, and "outwardly" are crucial to understanding the morality of the evil. While they seem to lack any motivation to be good, they intensely desire to appear good. Their "goodness" is all on a level of pretense. It is, in effect, a lie. This is why they are the "people of the lie." "

Spoiler

Don't look at me as if i didn't know
Your vanity is all you ever show
What you believe and advocate
Fanatic dogma recycled from yesterday

Got a masterplan
Genocide
Can't understand
People of the lie

You are to me the waste of flesh and blood
I'd love to see you buried in the mud
And when you die no one will shed a tear
So pass me by don't need your hatred here

Got a masterplan
Genocide
Can't understand
People of the lie

Prejudice
Intolerance
Eye for an eye

You cannot hide behind those empty claims
Your racist pride is nothing but a game
And you will lose for right is on the side
Of those who choose to fight for humankind

Got a masterplan
Genocide
Can't understand
People of the lie

You can't believe
Don't be deceived

 

[VorZakone]

What's unsettling is that I thought it had happened a long time ago, not a mere three weeks before George Floyd was murdered.

Same. I swear I saw this a couple of months ago.

 

[JPRouve]

What's unsettling is that I thought it had happened a long time ago, not a mere three weeks before George Floyd was murdered.

And it happened less than a week apart from the NYPD officer assaulting a man that was filming a brutal arrest.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Maybe posted before but this is fecking disgusting. Some cops are a disgrace. Sickening when he puts pressure on the kids neck after what happens to George Floyd.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/us/rancho-cordova-police.html

The “crime” here was asking an adult to buy some tobacco for him. It’s insane how something so trivial can escalate like that. What the feck is wrong with these cops?

 

[BobbyManc]

To be fair to Maitlis, her job is to ask those sort of questions as a decent proportion of the viewers will have that attitude.

It’s a fair point but there was nothing about her framing or tone that suggested that her intent was to enable him to rebut a popular myth, rather it looked much more like she was presenting a view common to her and much of her colleagues in the media. So yeah it’s good he was able to dispel it but it’s depressing that a leading BBC presenter/journalist has such a myopic view of Britain’s history of slavery and racism.

 

[SteveJ]

The “crime” here was asking an adult to buy some tobacco for him.

It's like history books, where you read of hungry kids being deported or hung for stealing an apple, and you think 'Thank god those times are past...'

 

[BobbyManc]

Holding up a book that's been used to install and maintain social control for centuries; it figures. Heck, even Black folks look to a white man's god for guidance and solace, so effective is the brainwashing.

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Thanks for providing a perfect excuse to share this

 

[Port Vale Devil]

The “crime” here was asking an adult to buy some tobacco for him. It’s insane how something so trivial can escalate like that. What the feck is wrong with these cops?

Yeah I think the States are totally fecked and I have said before it is just a two party dictatorship where nothing really changes whoever is in charge. It is just Trump doesn’t even hide the fact that the minorities do not have a chance but it would probably take someone like him in charge to make people rise up.

The carnage they do to other countries is now happening on their own soil (to a lesser extent obviously) and wouldn’t surprise me if they rolled out the ‘heart and minds’ for the black community.

 

[Rado_N]

The “crime” here was asking an adult to buy some tobacco for him. It’s insane how something so trivial can escalate like that. What the feck is wrong with these cops?

“This type of situation is hard on everyone--the young man, who resisted arrest, and the officer, who would much rather have him cooperate.”

Parody, right? Nope, taken from the actual statement from the PD.

https://www.ranchocordovapd.com/Home/Components/News/News/4044/2312

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

The “crime” here was asking an adult to buy some tobacco for him. It’s insane how something so trivial can escalate like that. What the feck is wrong with these cops?

Funny. I thought the crime in that transaction was purchasing the controlled product for a minor. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[adexkola]

Blasphemous. US is the land of the free-est... Bible holders...

Yep, I read this in that voice

 

[sammsky1]

The Harlem Riot of 1964 lasted about a week, as did the Watts Riot of 1965. In 1967, there was the "Long Hot Summer" where there were riots in something like 150 cities across the country. Most of those lasted about a week as well. The biggest national social unrest since the Civil War though were the individual protests and riots that followed MLK Jr's assassination... each of those lasted around a week also and spread nationwide, but they were spread out over an entire month.

From what you know, what is a chronological order of good movies made on 1960s black civil rights movement? I've found the below. Any others you would suggest?

Selma and Malcolm X covers 1960-1965
Mississippi Burning and Freedom Summer is specific to 1964
Detroit 1967
I am not your Negro seems to cover entire period?

 

[MrMarcello]

Mississippi Burning is a great movie.

 

[onemanarmy]

I am not your Negro seems to cover entire period?

Tonight on Dutch tv, I'm recording it. Recommended?

 

[Carolina Red]

Mississippi Burning is a great movie.

Yes sir it is.

 

[P-Nut]

From what you know, what is a chronological order of good movies made on 1960s black civil rights movement? I've found the below. Any others you would suggest?

Selma and Malcolm X covers uptown 1960-1965
Mississippi Burning and Freedom Summer is specific to 1964
Detroit 1967
I am not your Negro seems to cover entire period?

Detroit is a decent modern one that I'd recommend. I know it's already on your list btw.

Also saw a post earlier about books to read regarding race, and although it's aimed at teens I'd strongly suggest noughts and crosses for anyone that hasn't read it yet. Even if you can't be bothered with the full series the first book in itself is an all time great for me.

 

[MrMarcello]

Yes sir it is.

And while not a factual film though inspired by an actual case, A Time To Kill is fantastic IMO.

"Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!"

In many ways that book/movie could apply to numerous real world events in this country.

 

[Smores]

Maybe posted before but this is fecking disgusting. Some cops are a disgrace. Sickening when he puts pressure on the kids neck after what happens to George Floyd.

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What the feck is wrong with these people? I think my boot would be planted firmly in that guys face before i could stop myself.

 

[Carolina Red]

From what you know, what is a chronological order of good movies made on 1960s black civil rights movement? I've found the below. Any others you would suggest?

Selma and Malcolm X covers uptown 1960-1965
Mississippi Burning and Freedom Summer is specific to 1964
Detroit 1967
I am not your Negro seems to cover entire period?

Marshall covers the early career of Thurgood Marshall in the WWII era.

Loving starts in 1958 and covers the backstory behind the Loving v. Virginia SCOTUS case that made interracial marriage legal in 1967.

Ruby Bridges covers her story and the beginning of integration in 1960.

Ghosts of Mississippi covers the murder of Medgar Evers in 1963 and the trial of his murderer in 1994.

Two movies on the Johnson presidency 1963 to 1964... ‘All the Way’ and ‘LBJ’. All the Way has Brian Cranston as LBJ and the other has Woody Harrelson.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Funny. I thought the crime in that transaction was purchasing the controlled product for a minor. Maybe I'm wrong.

It is, but according to the bulletin, the officer 'lost sight of the adult', so he decided to brutalize the minor instead.

 

[oates]

From what you know, what is a chronological order of good movies made on 1960s black civil rights movement? I've found the below. Any others you would suggest?

Selma and Malcolm X covers 1960-1965
Mississippi Burning and Freedom Summer is specific to 1964
Detroit 1967
I am not your Negro seems to cover entire period?

The Hurricane

 

[sammsky1]

Tweet thread: I’m at a house in DC after being pepper sprayed and knocked down by the police. There are about 100 of us in a house surrounded by cops. All the neighbors on this street opened their doors and are tending to protesters. The cops corralled us on this street and sprayed us down.

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[Kinsella]

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Assuming that video's not a set up, it sums up much of today's 'progressive' culture.

 

[P-Nut]

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This guy is an absolute legend. Its people like him that are the solution to the problem.

 

[sullydnl]

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Not just letting them in but letting them in during a pandemic too.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

There are some good people though;

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[DavidDeSchmikes]

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[sammsky1]

Not just letting them in but letting them in during a pandemic too.

Was just talking about that. Probability that one of those 70 was asymptomatic covid19 infected is quite high I'd guess? If so, many would have become infected in that gathering. Protestors trying to observe social distancing protocols all day long and then forced into extended close contact because of USA police. It could become the ground zero for a huge outbreak and the blame would be purely on Trump.

 

[Adisa]

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[horsechoker]

There are some good people though;

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They're praying, not begging. However, instead of calling on a higher power, why don't they open a dialogue where minorities can educate them on how they can challenge and change racial bias. The Good Lord has given them the means to do it.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

They're praying, not begging. However, instead of calling on a higher power, why don't they open a dialogue where minorities can educate them on how they can challenge and change racial bias. The Good Lord has given them the means to do it.

Praying or begging doesn’t matter as the hope is what is important. It is just nice to see a bit of empathy at this time.

 

[Drifter]

Twitter restricts Matt Gaetz's call for killing protesters

Twitter on Monday restricted access to a tweet posted by Rep. Matt Gaetz in which the Florida Republican called for what commenters described as extrajudicial killings of protesters.

"Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do those in the Middle East?" Gaetz tweeted, joining Donald Trump and other Republicans in blaming anti-fascists for the violence across the country at protests over the death of George Floyd.

Floyd, an unarmed black man, died after a white police officer kneeled on his neck for eight minutes, even as Floyd said he could not breathe. Autopsies have found that Floyd died of asphyxia.

While Gaetz's tweet is still up, users have to click on it to see its contents. It's covered by a box that reads, "This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, Twitter has determined that it may be in the public's interest for the Tweet to remain accessible."

Democratic lawmakers called out Gaetz in response to the tweet and urged Twitter to remove it from the social media platform.

"Take the Gaetz tweet down right now @twitter. RIGHT NOW," Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) tweeted Monday night. "The survivors of mass shootings are lighting up my phone. They are scared to death this will inspire someone to start shooting into a crowd tonight. They are right."

After Twitter took action against his tweet, Gaetz said, "Their warning is my badge of honor."

"Antifa is a terrorist organization, encouraging riots that hurt Americans. Our government should hunt them down. Twitter should stop enabling them. I'll keep saying it," Gaetz said in a tweet that he pinned to the top of his profile page.

Donald Trump has demanded that the antifa movement be labeled a domestic terrorist organization.

However, as factcheck.org noted, "There is no such official federal designation for domestic terrorism organizations." Even if such a designation existed, the site said, it would be "difficult or questionable" to categorize antifa in that manner because it is not an organized group with a hierarchy and leadership.

So brave of Twitter.

 

[Walrus]

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THIS is an amazing idea.

 

[giggs-beckham]

This isn’t really the thread for it but this is entirely untrue.

Hopefully we all will now as nations prepare for it as a war as we do in a military sense. But yea we all had a choice to prepare.

 

[Rado_N]

Remember when Gaetz wore a gas mask in Congress to mock coronavirus and then caught coronavirus? Good times.

 

[sammsky1]

Praying or begging doesn’t matter as the hope is what is important. It is just nice to see a bit of empathy at this time.

I agree. Racism is a learned human behaviour that subsequently becomes deeply emotional and entrenched. People in that VDO seem to be genuinely emotionally challenged, perhaps understanding their own subconscious bias for first time. Emotional moments are often the ones we remember and help people pivot into a different world view.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

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[Organic Potatoes]

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#picardfacepalm