Protests following the killing of George Floyd

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Ermmm not really sure carrying around a hammer, lock knife, lighter fluid, handcuffs and an iron bar can be looked at as okay during a peaceful protest really. Granted there have been some ridiculous posts by the police, like the plastic bottle petrol bomb, I'm not sure this is one.
The cuffs are attached to what appears to be some sort of custody room bench.

That tweet is pathetic.
 

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Of course our UK police are all saints with just a few 'bad apples'.
 

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Ermmm not really sure carrying around a hammer, lock knife, lighter fluid, handcuffs and an iron bar can be looked at as okay during a peaceful protest really. Granted there have been some ridiculous posts by the police, like the plastic bottle petrol bomb, I'm not sure this is one.
If you searched my backpack a few years ago you may have freaked out, it was basically a toolbox. But then again you would have found me with a BMX, mountain bike or a fixie.
 

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I have no problem saying that the guy arrested and found with that "tools" is very probably not a peaceful protester and was rightfully arrested.

But what I have a problem with is, that they practically showed the same photo four times to suggest that this was a widespread problem.
And as somebody mentioned, if they are afraid of a guy with that tools, while they routinely sport military equipment against protesters, what a bunch of cowards.

No wonder they are doing nothing against heavily armed white supremacists. They are probably scared, without going in being sure of their own security and superior weapons.... P*****s

/sarcasm off
No doubt it's a PR exercise now to try and justify some of the obscene levels of force used and smear legitimate peaceful protesters whilst making the violence look more widespread than it is.

The cuffs are attached to what appears to be some sort of custody room bench.

That tweet is pathetic.
Disagree but fair enough!

If you searched my backpack a few years ago you may have freaked out, it was basically a toolbox. But then again you would have found me with a BMX, mountain bike or a fixie.
I think the tools are okay but the bits I mentioned, like the knife etc, you can't carry around in the UK anyway for obvious reasons. The lighter fuel and other bits would also be a concern under the circumstances.
 

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Oh for feck’s sake. I’ve been trying to kid myself that they’ve been social distancing while protesting. That’s nuts. People are going to die as a consequence of this.

I wonder if the police will be using kettling tactics again. Which would make a bad situation even worse.
 

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No doubt it's a PR exercise now to try and justify some of the obscene levels of force used and smear legitimate peaceful protesters whilst making the violence look more widespread than it is.



Disagree but fair enough!



I think the tools are okay but the bits I mentioned, like the knife etc, you can't carry around in the UK anyway for obvious reasons. The lighter fuel and other bits would also be a concern under the circumstances.
Disagree about the cuffs being the police own, or about it being a pathetic tweet?

They’ve seemingly arrested one dude carrying some perfectly legal tools and took a bunch of photos of the same thinks over and over to make it look like there’s more than there is, and then used that to try and paint the protesters as the aggressors.

Also, not being allowed to carry knives in the UK is entirely irrelevant.
 

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Disagree about the cuffs being the police own, or about it being a pathetic tweet?

They’ve seemingly arrested one dude carrying some perfectly legal tools and took a bunch of photos of the same thinks over and over to make it look like there’s more than there is, and then used that to try and paint the protesters as the aggressors.

Also, not being allowed to carry knives in the UK is entirely irrelevant.
You're fishing for an argument which I can't be arsed with if I'm honest. I've said my thoughts on it and if you disagree that's fine. The US police have done plenty of awful things, and released plenty of ridiculous tweets, over the past few weeks but I just don't feel this was one of them.
 

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You're fishing for an argument which I can't be arsed with if I'm honest. I've said my thoughts on it and if you disagree that's fine. The US police have done plenty of awful things, and released plenty of ridiculous tweets, over the past few weeks but I just don't feel this was one of them.
I’m not fishing for anything, if you don’t want to discuss the comments you make then why the hell make them?
 

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I’m not fishing for anything, if you don’t want to discuss the comments you make then why the hell make them?
There's nothing more to discuss really is there. It's a photograph of items the police say they have seized from protesters. They are what they are. You think it's a pathetic tweet whilst I think the items are pretty dangerous and worthy of seizing.
 

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If they're going to be that crass I'm suprised they didn't include the week after the towers came down.
There's no 'Black' theme to that event though. So there's your answer, mate.
 

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The act isn't really working when you're the one who began it. In fact, by replying "And so it begins" to my post, you're basically confirming that you're looking for an argument. You could have just ignored it.
You have a habit of making childish posts like that I guess. It's exactly whats being referred to in the Libcafe thread in part. Anyway I'll leave you to it.
 

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That’s not very nice to watch but that’s an unnecessarily inflammatory tweat. Unless the words “beat him until he was unconscious” now mean “wrestled with him until he was in handcuffs”.
I think it's a case of UK police brutality against non white people. Very relevant to todays protest. My opinion.
 

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"Black Lives Matter...but actually only in a certain context and not when it applies to me because I'm going to willfully attend an organised protest that will cause people to catch and die from a virus that disproportionately affects black people"?

Not sure that would fit on a placard.

More important to be seen protesting than actually help the cause you're protesting for, apparently.
 

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It's absolutely shocking isn't it! I couldn't believe that they didn't instantly go and help, and as you say, the one officer who went to help was pulled away!

It's also shocking and quite telling that this footage isn't being shown more. It's only been on tv once that I've seen? Why isn't it being shown more? If it was a black person it would be wall to wall coverage everywhere.

It's laughable the levels of white guilt or whatever they call it happening throughout the media and world.. It's just so obvious and overboard that it's almost overshadowing the actual incident and reasons for protesting. There's already backlash about how this is being portrayed.

Perspective has been lost by lot's of people going overboard all around the world, especially the media. A lot of the over the top stuff is a result of stressed out people with all the coronavirus worries and stress coming out in over emotional responses. That London protest on now (And all other protests everywhere) is going to spread covid again on a large scale, for fecks sake what are they thinking!

Are the crowds going to be dispersed calmly by police for breaking distancing guidelines? Fecking desperate state of the world..

The media and world need to be careful here, as you'd think that nobody else has ever been killed or mistreated by police, and that there's only white rascism against black people on a global scale. There needs to be some careful balancing here. All lives matter equally.
Not true at all. Its now a massive US MSM TV story, which has also reported subsequent plot developments, ensuring even more exposure within social media.
 
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I think it's a case of UK police brutality against non white people. Very relevant to todays protest. My opinion.
If you google his name you can find out the details.Youness Bentahar. Apparently he was asked 17 times to move his car, or produce his license. Then a 5 stage warning before they tried to arrest him. So it looks as though there were loads of opportunities for him to stop this escalating without any drama. I’m sure there are racists cops in the Uk but I don’t think this is a great example. Tweeting that today, without context, is pure rabble-rousing.
 

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Oh for feck’s sake. I’ve been trying to kid myself that they’ve been social distancing while protesting. That’s nuts. People are going to die as a consequence of this.

I wonder if the police will be using kettling tactics again. Which would make a bad situation even worse.
One of my mates has gone. Last weekend she was moaning about how unfair it is she has to get on a train to go to work because it isn't safe. Now she's off on the same train to mill about in a crowd of thousands, in the name of a cause that will be harmed more than helped as a result.

I hate people.