Protests following the killing of George Floyd

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@Garethw care to explain how Britain is not racist when their current 21st Century PM is a racist bigot and was voted in on a mandate of xenophobia and cultural division?

As an ethnic minority growing up in the U.K. back in the 90s I would have agreed that U.K. is becoming less racist after the 80s but the country has gone backwards since then.
 

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But that's just you and your particular life-experience though. I've, literally, never met a Jewish person but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Come to Golder's Green. Some great delis round there.
 

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@Garethw care to explain how Britain is not racist when their current 21st Century PM is a racist bigot and was voted in on a mandate of xenophobia and cultural division?

As an ethnic minority growing up in the U.K. back in the 90s I would have agreed that U.K. is becoming less racist after the 80s but the country has gone backwards since then.
And @Garethw while you're at it, answer my question as to whether you have experienced racism yourself.
 

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Just asking. The slogan is black lives matter. Not equality for all.
The definition of equality is fairness for all. It stands to reason that by campaigning for equality for one section of society, you are campaigning for equality for all sections of society. The name of the movement is irrelevant when the goal is the same. You weren’t “just asking”, as your subsequent posts indicate.
 

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The definition of equality is fairness for all. It stands to reason that by campaigning for equality for one section of society, you are campaigning for equality for all sections of society. The name of the movement is irrelevant when the goal is the same. You weren’t “just asking”, as your subsequent posts indicate.
It's a bit like asking why feminism can't be called everyoneism.
 

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Just asking..if these BLM supporters really cared about people, why haven't they paid my electric bill?
 

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Where did I say that people shouldn’t protest?? Jesus fecking Christ.

So you don’t see the irony in Black Lives Matters protestors beating up black police officers and potentially killing them in the process? Innocent officers just doing their jobs!

it’s plain to see that these peaceful protests have been hijacked by groups of absolute scum that are only interested in violence. They don’t give a shit about BLM.

But of course you aren’t allowed to say that on here because views are so far left that the actions of rioting scumbags (Not genuine BLM protestors) are justified because it’s associated with the protests. Any counter argument to that and you are a racist.
If that wasn’t the purpose of your post then what were you implying? Other than just deflecting from the main issue at hand? You’re talking about a tiny minority and acting as if they represent the whole protest.

And it’s funny for you to talk about irony, you accused me of putting words in your mouth only to do the same. I haven’t called you a racist, seems like your projecting.
 

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The definition of equality is fairness for all. It stands to reason that by campaigning for equality for one section of society, you are campaigning for equality for all sections of society. The name of the movement is irrelevant when the goal is the same. You weren’t “just asking”, as your subsequent posts indicate.
Yes i was just asking, because all the focus was on one ethnic group. I was curious as to why other races were not included, who have faced racism too.

It was an honest question and you've gone a rant.
 

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Yes i was just asking, because all the focus was on one ethnic group. I was curious as to why other races were not included, who have faced racism too.

It was an honest question and you've gone a rant.
If it was an honest question, why follow up with “well what about the Asians?”

Equality means EVERYONE treated in a manner that makes the playing field level and allows access to the same opportunities for all.
 

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He's right though. Statues like that shouldn't be left up until people finally snap and tear them down.
The amount of health and safety violations in those videos. You’d have thought the liberal snowflakes would know better?
 

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Yes i was just asking, because all the focus was on one ethnic group. I was curious as to why other races were not included, who have faced racism too.

It was an honest question and you've gone a rant.
I mean, have you watched the news? How can you not be aware of why it’s about one race?
 

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No he didn't. It was a simple question. I've not seen many Asians at the protests. They seem to have been forgotten about.
You do know that people can just turn up to these protests? They haven't selected people to give tickets to.

Oh, wait, you're just using whataboutism as an argument because you don't like what the protests represent. Gotcha.
 

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The only negative I can think of really about the graffiti is that shitheads like Johnson and Patel are focusing on them instead of what the protests are about. These people are cnuts, plain and simple. If it wasn't the graffiti then it would have been something else that they would take umbrage to.

They don't like protests in general. Protests mean people are thinking for themselves, and that scares the shit out of this lot.
 

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Those two are acting outraged because:
a) It takes the pressure off them, via distraction, about speaking on George Floyd/BLM.
b) They fear revolution-creep.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in America (or only some states?) you can't vote if you have a criminal record?

Is it likely that come November these protests and a whole lot of fake charges etc are going to stop a big chunk of people voting that likely would have voted against Trump?
 

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This is like asking "why don't Breast Cancer charities also campaign for Child Abuse?"

BLM has it's own specific cause, there's nothing stopping Asian people from creating their own version, and BLM isn't exclusionary in who should be in support of it either.
Finally somebody worded it accurately. Same goes for white folks and their #alllivesmatter crap. There's nothing stopping them from protesting police brutality against white people.

They don't care though.
 

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Stop taking china to every debate. The fact that you casually mentioned china in everything is racist man.

Chinese is a race too you know
I haven’t previously mentioned China in any conversation?
If that wasn’t the purpose of your post then what were you implying? Other than just deflecting from the main issue at hand? You’re talking about a tiny minority and acting as if they represent the whole protest.

And it’s funny for you to talk about irony, you accused me of putting words in your mouth only to do the same. I haven’t called you a racist, seems like your projecting.
Sorry mate. I wasn’t implying you were calling me racist. I’ve been jumped on by multiple posters and it wasn’t aimed at you.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in America (or only some states?) you can't vote if you have a criminal record?

Is it likely that come November these protests and a whole lot of fake charges etc are going to stop a big chunk of people voting that likely would have voted against Trump?
It’s “only” felony charges that carry that disenfranchisement issue, but yes it’s certainly a problem.
 

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And @Garethw while you're at it, answer my question as to whether you have experienced racism yourself.
Two of my best friends are black. One since childhood and one through football since my late teens. Yes I have experienced racism. Not personally but against my friends.

I will not tolerate it In any shape or form. I’ve always had my friends backs and it’s got me into a lot of trouble in the past.

Racism is a disease that needs eradicating. But rioting is not the cure.
 

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It's good for others to see a different perspective whether you agree or not
I've read what white privilege looks like on FB, Instagram, etc. Now I've heard what it sounds like with my own ears.
 

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Two of my best friends are black. One since childhood and one through football since my late teens. Yes I have experienced racism. Not personally but against my friends.

I will not tolerate it In any shape or form. I’ve always had my friends backs and it’s got me into a lot of trouble in the past.

Racism is a disease that needs eradicating. But rioting is not the cure.
And yet you say, with what seems to be misplaced confidence, the UK isn't a racist country. Go figure.
 

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Two of my best friends are black. One since childhood and one through football since my late teens. Yes I have experienced racism. Not personally but against my friends.

I will not tolerate it In any shape or form. I’ve always had my friends backs and it’s got me into a lot of trouble in the past.

Racism is a disease that needs eradicating. But rioting is not the cure.
Oooooooh.
 

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I meant outside of that quote I hadn’t mentioned China.

I wasn’t meaning to offend by the way, but I saw videos where black people were refused service in China recently. Flat out refused.

If that was happening in the UK I’d agree that we were a racist country but it wouldn’t be tolerated here.
 

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Sorry mate. I wasn’t implying you were calling me racist. I’ve been jumped on by multiple posters and it wasn’t aimed at you.
No worries mate, it’s an emotive topic and I think we’re all on edge at the moment!
 

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Two of my best friends are black. One since childhood and one through football since my late teens. Yes I have experienced racism. Not personally but against my friends.

I will not tolerate it In any shape or form. I’ve always had my friends backs and it’s got me into a lot of trouble in the past.

Racism is a disease that needs eradicating. But rioting is not the cure.
:lol: you have to go there
 

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And yet you say, with what seems to be misplaced confidence, the UK isn't a racist country. Go figure.
On the whole no, I don’t think it’s a racist country. Maybe 30-40 years ago Yes, but times have changed. The majority are not racist.

There is still a lot of work to do and hopefully this is the start of that.

I live by the principle that a persons actions are what defines them, not the colour of their skin or nationality.

Let’s just all stop being cnuts to each other. If we can do that the world will be a better place.
 

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Are Asians included in this black lives matter? They probably get racism more than anyone in the UK.
Just out of curiosity, what is stopping you from creating an AsianLivesMatter movement?

Gonna go out on a limb and say like a lot of people such as yourself, you haven’t cared about racism against Asians a day in your life and are only now bringing it up to derail a black movement