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Well he is small time, what do you expect. Thats who he is as a manager. Why dont people just accept it. He is who he is.
He literally said In his time, this is the best performance against City.Surely this is a joke?
This is the best performance we've had against City apparently.
Is he losing the plot with this grandiose delusions?
More and more accepting low standards.
He said in his time but even then I saw a better performance last season. He's the one that sets up the team though so maybe in this game he saw something that wasn't there before despite us actually beating them last season. Could also be another poor attempt to big up a poor showing by comparing it to the pastSurely this is a joke?
This is the best performance we've had against City apparently.
Is he losing the plot with this grandiose delusions?
More and more accepting low standards.
Give the guy a feckin break. A draw at home against City would be something to be celebrated at Cardiff or Molde. It's not Ole's fault that the club hasn't spend another 200m in the middle of a pandemic so we could maybe do better. We set Ole to fail.Surely this is a joke?
This is the best performance we've had against City apparently.
Is he losing the plot with this grandiose delusions?
More and more accepting low standards.
Fair enough. I stand corrected.Speak for yourself I hate him. But it’s not personal I’ve hated everyone in that hot seat after Fergie.
Similar to his comments about being happy to even give Leipzig and PsG a game really.Surely this is a joke?
This is the best performance we've had against City apparently.
Is he losing the plot with this grandiose delusions?
More and more accepting low standards.
And Pogba is still a liability, Martial is still bang average and moody. Actually, I can’t even imagine our situation without Bruno in this team. scary...After 11 games he’s on 20 points.
In Mourinho’s disaster season we had 20 points after 11 games, and we were through in CL.
This is what 310 million buys you, progress innit.
Following on from a Mourinho meltdown is a dream ticket for a United manager, half our fans seem to think Ole took over a side that was battling relegation.
I actually not saying anyone in this thread is wrong. It’s not that I blindly think that Ole is the right manager either. But this thread also got a lot of reactions all the time. Reactions from both camps tbf.This was almost exactly a year ago:
Yet you’re still in here suggesting people are stupid or kneejerk or laughable for not getting behind him.
I think you agree that both camps react a lot to anything concerning Ole and our matches. That includes me.Agreed. Some of them even spend entire summers pretending to be ITK in Transfer forum threads.
Is that you, Donald?Ole still got 55.7% support, I am wondering if there is any chance for this poll to be rigged? May be people at the top doesn’t want the mood totally against him until they decide to sack him?
The fact is - no one will ever know how Nigel Adkins would have done at Southampton. He created a really talented squad, and they had a horrible start to the season with 4 points from 10 - and if Southampton had fired him then - no one could have complained.I remember when Southampton changed managers, from that guy Nigel Adkins, who was a nice guy and doing a decent job at the time, to Pochettino. People were up in arms saying that Adkins was badly treated, the club were doing fine etc... one year later and nobody questioned the decision, because Pochettino had taken Southampton to another level. In hindsight, Adkins was not a PL-level manager and the decision was the right one for the club's long-term interests. I feel a similar dynamic is at work with Ole, where he has done enough to stay in the job and hasn't been a disaster, but maybe we have hit a ceiling with him.
And if people wrote messages like you - we wouldn't have this toxic athmosphere. But they don't.All the Ole in should read this. No one hates him or wishes any harm. I supported him myself until this season and would have loved him to have been the right manager to lead us back to the top of the tree. What would have been better than to have an old player like Dalgleish and Kendal did for the scousers. Unfortunately I can see that this isnt going to happen. We have too many players regressing all at the same time for it to be anything other than bad coaching. We have relied too much on Bruno to bail us out and when he doesnt perform to the standard he did during the end of last season, we are shit. We can win the league if the owners are proactive now and get in a proven manager at this level and let him have some coaches also at this level. We shouldnt be an experiment with a poor manager and novice coaches and an has been.
Yea, was expecting this.Is that you, Donald?
I don’t think, I know. Forget the two brilliant performances last season and the 0-1 Carabao win, even our 0-2 loss in 2018-19 was better because we showed real attacking intent there. And if he means defensively, that is bullshit too because we won 2-0 last season and as far as I remember, gave City 0 real chances. Last night, a Manchester United team set out for a 0-0 draw at home to the noisy neighbours. He is now resorting to lying to the fans to give himself credit and relieve some pressure. It is frankly revolting and disgusting.He literally said In his time, this is the best performance against City.
I get it if you want to criticize Ole if you think that we've had better performances against City under him, but atleast don't twist his words
That PL season were far less competative.After 11 games he’s on 20 points.
In Mourinho’s disaster season we had 20 points after 11 games, and we were through in CL.
This is what 310 million buys you, progress innit.
Following on from a Mourinho meltdown is a dream ticket for a United manager, half our fans seem to think Ole took over a side that was battling relegation.
Less shit you mean. https://www.premierleague.com/tables?co=1&se=210&ha=-1That PL season were far less competative.
And we didnt have as competative CL group either.
Had 20 points after 11 games with Moyes in charge as well. We’re still pretty much same team we’ve always been post SAF.After 11 games he’s on 20 points.
In Mourinho’s disaster season we had 20 points after 11 games, and we were through in CL.
This is what 310 million buys you, progress innit.
Following on from a Mourinho meltdown is a dream ticket for a United manager, half our fans seem to think Ole took over a side that was battling relegation.
Jesus, did we? Kin ell.Had 20 points after 11 games with Moyes in charge as well. We’re still pretty much same team we’ve always been post SAF.
He then won one of the next 6.After 11 games he’s on 20 points.
In Mourinho’s disaster season we had 20 points after 11 games, and we were through in CL.
This is what 310 million buys you, progress innit.
Following on from a Mourinho meltdown is a dream ticket for a United manager, half our fans seem to think Ole took over a side that was battling relegation.
yupHe then won one of the next 6.
Of course its in a minority though. Its not an election with a 50:50 choice, this forum has thousands of sub discussions and conversations that go on tangents. Yet this type of thing is common enough to be noticed pretty much everywhereFair enough. I'll just add that something can be in every thread and still be in the minority, btw
We had Juventus and Valencia in that group. That was a tough group to be honest.That PL season were far less competative.
And we didnt have as competative CL group either.
Solskjaer would be unlikely to survive a similar run.
I don't agree with him, but I can somewhat get what he's trying to say here.I don’t think, I know. Forget the two brilliant performances last season and the 0-1 Carabao win, even our 0-2 loss in 2018-19 was better because we showed real attacking intent there. And if he means defensively, that is bullshit too because we won 2-0 last season and as far as I remember, gave City 0 real chances. Last night, a Manchester United team set out for a 0-0 draw at home to the noisy neighbours. He is now resorting to lying to the fans to give himself credit and relieve some pressure. It is frankly revolting and disgusting.
It was the same for Liverpool last season. Shit football and grinding out results for a long time. People on here do not appreciate we are in a very good position in the league. If it goes Tits up, I’ll support them in changing Ole. But what is comedy gold is the anger after yesterday. All prediction we would get battered, but when we draw its unacceptable We where not set up defending yesterday, but struggled going forward or even keep the ball in their half. But what I loved about the game was how well organised we where and without all them silly mistakes. We know we can go forward. That is not a general problem for this team. But them mistakes and dropping shape has been a huge problem. Really hope we have turned a stone in that department, because if we have, we are going placesBecause they look at performances and not just blindly look at results alone.
As I said many times on this thread, look at performances. It's so early in the season (just 11 games), I don't care if we are 2points off 14th or 2 points off top. It means nothing, just look at whether we are seeing more games like Southampton or more games like West Brom - both wins but one was a thumping performance by way of chances, aggression and intent and the other was a drab affair relying on a moment to win a game.
Where have I ever said Solskjaer is big manager? I say if there is progress, time should be given. One or two setbacks dosen’t change my mind. ManCity game wasn’t even a setback. Both teams came to game to not lose. Both teams got points. After going out against Leipzig we needed to come out with something. And got that. People need to relax.I understand that but you are still under the illusion that Ole is a big manager. I just don't see it and that will be glaringly obvious when he does depart United. Its unfortunate but that's the way it is. Time in a top management job depends on results and success in all competitions. This huge club cannot wait on Ole to improve as a manager. We need someone at their pinnacle or someone ready to step up to the next level. Ole is hanging from that level by his fingernails. I hate to say it but it is all very Moyes like and I can see him meeting the same fate and having a similar career post United.
Jose was shit, the same is Ole.After 11 games he’s on 20 points.
In Mourinho’s disaster season we had 20 points after 11 games, and we were through in CL.
This is what 310 million buys you, progress innit.
Following on from a Mourinho meltdown is a dream ticket for a United manager, half our fans seem to think Ole took over a side that was battling relegation.
Have you seen this thread? The amount of vitriol and pure bile after each dropped point, what other could it be than dislike? The reason so many want him out is simple, we have been spoiled silly by experiencing Fergie and fans cant (or wont) accept that it was not always going to be that way. Lets be real here, Ole did not exactly have a splendid CV before the job fell into his lap, but that in turn have convinced his most outspoken critics that he literally can do no good and whenever things do go our way its either luck or something/someone else doing the heavy lifting. Meanwhile, every single thing that goes badly is his fault. Like why is this thread constantly bumped during live matches where people are howling for blood if we go under? Hes not on the pitch, so unless hes put out some utterly daft line up, i dont see how a thread about a manager would be that relevant during a matchTo all the Ole In posters, we don't want him out because we dislike him. That is ridiculous. But the fact that so many want him out should have alarm bells ringing for you all. It is that bad. He's a United legend and look at how much heat he is getting. A good manager, the right manager, rarely get themselves in this position (multiple times) without reason.