So Cavani thanked his black away united shirt for his goal on social media and for that he’s banned. Is that about right?
Cavani gets 3 match ban from FA for his social media post
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Factually accurate though bud.What a stupid post. I have to laugh
The club and Cavani have taken the correct stance by not fighting the punishment but also by making it clear that they do not believe Cavani has really done anything wrong.
If you appeal, you simply give the whole thing more air time, which hurts the club's reputation and can only be a distraction for Cavani. You also potentially give the impression that the club is not completely behind anti-racism efforts, regardless of anyone's feelings about the actual usefulness of this judgement to those efforts. You end up in the mess Liverpool got themselves in when they stuck by Suarez (after his admittedly much worse, actually genuinely unacceptable, offence.)
Three games will go by in the blink of an eye and everyone can forget this nonsense happened in the first place.
If you appeal, you simply give the whole thing more air time, which hurts the club's reputation and can only be a distraction for Cavani. You also potentially give the impression that the club is not completely behind anti-racism efforts, regardless of anyone's feelings about the actual usefulness of this judgement to those efforts. You end up in the mess Liverpool got themselves in when they stuck by Suarez (after his admittedly much worse, actually genuinely unacceptable, offence.)
Three games will go by in the blink of an eye and everyone can forget this nonsense happened in the first place.
Are his media accounts region blocked to Uruguay?
Cavanis first real test
Fecking hell. Martial better finds his goalscoring boots soon enough.
Just UK culture. There has been precedent for using that word in the Premiership and our club was involved!
Whilst trying to stamp out racism, the FA have indeed become what they claimed to stamp out. Disregard for South American culture and context of words. Well done. Problem is they are too obtuse to realise the irony here
Spot on. My first thought when I saw the news was "wait a minute, shouldn't they be fighting AGAINST racism..?!" If anything, they're doing just the opposite, imo. Sorry, but this feels so so wrong and immature...
I assume Man Utd have a "code of conduct" for its players, as most professional setups these days do. In addition, I would think Premier League AND/OR FA have a CoC of their own that all clubs and players adhere to. I also assume this (the language issue) is covered under the CoC legalese and the intent is irrelevant.
If so, I cannot see any grounds for Cavani or the club to contest. They've done the right thing to move on and not make a big issue out of this. For better or worse, in the world that we live in these days, you have to follow the "when in Rome" philosophy.
If so, I cannot see any grounds for Cavani or the club to contest. They've done the right thing to move on and not make a big issue out of this. For better or worse, in the world that we live in these days, you have to follow the "when in Rome" philosophy.
No there hasn’t. Honestly, how good was Liverpool’s PR campaign around Suarez? People seem incapable of understanding that he didn’t even argue before the tribunal that he had said “negrito”.
If you read the Suarez judgment, it’s pretty clear that the reasoning applied in that case would have concluded that Cavani meant no offence and would therefore have cleared him. We are in a different time now though, and the rules have sufficient ambiguity that Cavani’s innocent tweet is arguably in breach.
Edit - just to add that I only consider it arguably in breach. I actually think if Cavani had defended this he’d have had reasonable prospects - particularly if the suggestions that the guy he tweeted is white are true. However, it’s the right decision, in the current climate, to avoid the negative PR and the risk that the FA penalises even more harshly.
Ander Herrera had some choice words on Cavani's latest instagram post
To save everyone the trouble Ander apparently said, "If they ban you for that. The world is going to shit. Big hugs and stay strong Edi."
Who cares he's a bench man anyway. Wouldn't get a game in the next two anyway. Maybe would fill in after the Liverpool game to give people a rest but nothing more from Cavani. Let the FA have their 2 minutes in the sun.
Who gives a fecka about Suarez?
OK and while we're at it, let's all identify and retroactively ban the "racists" who sung the laborador chant for Park from Old Trafford shall we?
God, I'm getting sick and tired of this culture cancer nonsense. It does not address racism in any sort of meaningful way.
Saying that though, United and Cavani couldn't have responded more brilliantly. It'll suck to lose him for 3 games but this will all be forgotten soon.
God, I'm getting sick and tired of this culture cancer nonsense. It does not address racism in any sort of meaningful way.
Saying that though, United and Cavani couldn't have responded more brilliantly. It'll suck to lose him for 3 games but this will all be forgotten soon.
I don't see how this helps with the fight against racism.. What does this achieve exactly? feckall
Can't wait for the full transcript describing what happened. Fecking dickheads.
Mr. Cavani version
Mr. Cavani picked up a mobile phone after the game and opened Instagram application. Mr. Cavani then posted a picture which includes Mr. Cavani celebrating a goal in it with a watermark which Mr. Cavani put using instagram filter, the text was 'Gracias Negrito'. The post could be seen publicly, mainly by Mr. Cavani's follower on Instagram. Mr. Cavani always put his Instagram (for a further clarification - it is owned by Mr. Cavani) as publicly accessible. According to Mr. Cavani the text 'Gracias Negrito' meant 'thanks bro' in the context of his post and Mr. Cavani had no intent of making a racist comment. Mr. Cavani's friend (Mr. Friend) that was referred as Negrito also didn't take any offense
Mr. Whatshisname (FA representative) version
Mr. Cavani picked up a mobile phone after the game and proceeded to kick his front door due to uncontrolable emotion which scared Mr. Cavani's pet dog (Mr. Dog). According to Mr. Whatshisname that was animal abuse. Further analysis made by Mr. Whatshisname showed that, after scaring Mr. Dog, Mr. Cavani went on to post a photo of him celebrating a goal in a pose that looked like he was about to hit someone with a Kung Fu technique - setting a bad example for kids who watched the game and followed Mr. Cavani's instagram account (for a further clarification - it is owned by Mr. Cavani). According to Mr. Whatshisname, football is not a violent sport. To make matter worse according to Mr. Whatshisname, Mr. Cavani also added a text 'Gracias Negrito' which was clearly a racist comment (Negrito is a racist word). Mr. Cavani's friend (Mr. Friend) has been bribed by Mr. Cavani not to make any comment nor take any offense from the incicent
Conclusion: Mr. Cavani is an animal abuser, a racist, corrupt and set a bad example for kids
Mr. Cavani version
Mr. Cavani picked up a mobile phone after the game and opened Instagram application. Mr. Cavani then posted a picture which includes Mr. Cavani celebrating a goal in it with a watermark which Mr. Cavani put using instagram filter, the text was 'Gracias Negrito'. The post could be seen publicly, mainly by Mr. Cavani's follower on Instagram. Mr. Cavani always put his Instagram (for a further clarification - it is owned by Mr. Cavani) as publicly accessible. According to Mr. Cavani the text 'Gracias Negrito' meant 'thanks bro' in the context of his post and Mr. Cavani had no intent of making a racist comment. Mr. Cavani's friend (Mr. Friend) that was referred as Negrito also didn't take any offense
Mr. Whatshisname (FA representative) version
Mr. Cavani picked up a mobile phone after the game and proceeded to kick his front door due to uncontrolable emotion which scared Mr. Cavani's pet dog (Mr. Dog). According to Mr. Whatshisname that was animal abuse. Further analysis made by Mr. Whatshisname showed that, after scaring Mr. Dog, Mr. Cavani went on to post a photo of him celebrating a goal in a pose that looked like he was about to hit someone with a Kung Fu technique - setting a bad example for kids who watched the game and followed Mr. Cavani's instagram account (for a further clarification - it is owned by Mr. Cavani). According to Mr. Whatshisname, football is not a violent sport. To make matter worse according to Mr. Whatshisname, Mr. Cavani also added a text 'Gracias Negrito' which was clearly a racist comment (Negrito is a racist word). Mr. Cavani's friend (Mr. Friend) has been bribed by Mr. Cavani not to make any comment nor take any offense from the incicent
Conclusion: Mr. Cavani is an animal abuser, a racist, corrupt and set a bad example for kids
He's right. It is an absolutely atrocious decision. For all of the "the FA had no choice" nonsense, of course they did. They've banned someone for using racist language when there was absolutely nothing racist about it whatsoever.
The offence here is using language that someone else has used in a racist way. It's absolutely ludicrous.
Cavani needs to appeal this otherwise he'll forever be lumped in with Suarez, Terry and Big Ron.
I appreciate Man United won't want the hassle but feck that, if I'm Cavani this gets appealed.
I appreciate Man United won't want the hassle but feck that, if I'm Cavani this gets appealed.
They can feck off. At least he will be available for Dippers game
Apart from villa, he only misses the pointless cup games. Would be nice to have him fit and hungry going into the pool game.
Not a chance. People barely remembers BSilva's tweet.
Is it really a surprise that the FA made an arguably ridiculous ruling lacking in common sense?
Completely disagree.
Appealing will just give more oxygen to it and create more a divide for what is a strict liability offence so he will be punished regardless of the facts.
Cavani is being a bigger man and swallowing his pride by accepting the situation, learning about the English approach to race and moving on.
Terry racially abused someone out of anger, the weight of evidence suggests (but not proven beyond a reasonable doubt).
Suarez used race as a weapon to gain a sporting advantage.
Atkinson was just generally racist invoking both racist language and stereotyping.
Cavani said something friendly that refers to someones race but does not have a relevant comparison in England. As soon as he learned it was a faux pas to do that in England he deleted it and apologised, and when he was charged by the FA he took the culturally sensitive approach, unlike Terry and Suarez.
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Signed up to vent as a Uruguayan. Who the feck are these FA clowns to decide how two Uruguayan friends should communicate to each other using their own cultural context and language (whether it is on social media or not). If anyone is racist it’s these cnuts. Uruguay is a country with a proud Afro descendant history. Our most traditional cultural music and dance (Candombe) is directly descended from African roots. Our culture has been built by decades of Afro descendants and white people getting along in harmony and coming together to celebrate our way of life and country. We have a proud history of African descendants whom have contributed immensely to our history and are celebrated in our culture, music, stories and literature.
The word Negrito has been used as a term of endearment for decades and it comes from history of our white and black people proudly getting along. The word has been ever so present in our culture that it has become a friendly term and it has no racial or colour connotations at all. It is a term used by all to express affection. Clowns thinking they have the moral superiority over the world. Cavani is a good honourable man but I do hope somehow and in some way these FA clowns are sued for cultural discrimination. Uruguay was one of the first countries ever to have black players along with white playing together. One of the first countries ever to abolish slavery and have women and black voters, our national team is nicknamed after out indigenous race pfft what these clowns in suits know about culture and racism.
The word Negrito has been used as a term of endearment for decades and it comes from history of our white and black people proudly getting along. The word has been ever so present in our culture that it has become a friendly term and it has no racial or colour connotations at all. It is a term used by all to express affection. Clowns thinking they have the moral superiority over the world. Cavani is a good honourable man but I do hope somehow and in some way these FA clowns are sued for cultural discrimination. Uruguay was one of the first countries ever to have black players along with white playing together. One of the first countries ever to abolish slavery and have women and black voters, our national team is nicknamed after out indigenous race pfft what these clowns in suits know about culture and racism.
I suppose it’s kind of similar to how Americans use “handicapped“ to describe the disabled or anything related to them. In ireland, that word would be highly frowned upon and deemed derogatory but as a disabled person myself, I am not offended when American use it as I accept it’s the culturally accepted term and they mean no ill will generally when they use it
Good post this.
Also, the FA, themselves, deemed the term 'negrito' as non-offensive. You really can't make this shit up. Total incompetence from those fecking feckwits.
No he didn’t. His friend would be considered “white” and Cavani used the term as an affectionate term to a friend. Nothing racial about it!
Fecking ridiculous decision and I hate that he's not trying to get it overturned because of the precedent it sets.
Well said
You get the impression that the decision was made not because it is right or just (nobody honestly believes Cavani's post was racist in intent) but because the FA feels it's obliged to do so.
It's a case of "How would it look?" rather than "Is this just?"
I sincerely hope this awful decision doesn't undermine serious and badly needed anti-racist initiatives in our game.
It's a case of "How would it look?" rather than "Is this just?"
I sincerely hope this awful decision doesn't undermine serious and badly needed anti-racist initiatives in our game.
Bench man like he was vs Southampton and changed the game or vs Leicester ? Being on the bench doesn't mean you aren't an important player
Excellent post.
I agree. Lots of talk that he's missing irrelevant games. Cavani is a key man and would have a big part to play in all 3, whether starting or not. Even moreso with Martial and Greenwood struggling for form.
It could cost the team their chance of a trophy this season.
Exactly. This is not justice. If this were an actual court proceeding and not a governing body with limited possibilities of appeal, I doubt the accusation would stand.
Disgusting and pathetic. Go feck yourself FA you bunch of spineless twats.
I'd definitely be appealing. You can't be labeled racist for a non-race related thing.
Great post
I'd definitely be appealing. You can't be labeled racist for a non-race related thing.
Great post
Slightly off topic , but I disagree with the notion that just because it was said to a white person it can’t be racist. I remember at school there were these two white girls who used to greet each other saying ‘what up my n**ga’ and remember feeling extremely uncomfortable every time they did it even though I don’t believe they did it go be racist but it could easily come across that way.