Day 4: Scotland vs Czech Republic | Poland vs Slovakia | Spain vs Sweden

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Scotland fans are gonna be feeling a bit Schick tonight after that result
 

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Thought Scotland were very unlucky. On another day a couple of those chance go in and it’s a different game.
 

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Scotland are unlucky to lose this match tbh
Don't agree with that really. Everyone saying Scotland were unlucky, Czechs had some really good chances to put the game to bed and didn't take them. Scotland had heart and passion but they were just throwing everything they could at it, they didn't play smart. Scotland lacked quality, that's not being unlucky.


Like i said unlucky

Scotland had 19 shots with 4 on target, 4 off target
Czech had 10 shots with 7 on target, 3 off target

Scotland had 11 shots blocked
Czech had 0 shots blocked

To me that says Czech had a better quality of attack and defence. It honestly looked that way too, they need to play smarter.
 

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Well, that was a good laugh.

Clarke is such a dour, soul sucking emotionless man. Just about every national stereotype we have is always on show with our national football team.

England will take at least 5 off Scotland, will be like a training exercise.
He was such a highly regarded coach when he was Chelsea's assistant coach. I remember feeling really gutted when he decided to leave. His brand of football certainly isn't anything to get anyone excited, but he seems to be the latest in a long line of Scottish NT managers who view the game in exactly the same way .
 

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Don't agree with that really. Everyone saying Scotland were unlucky, Czechs had some really good chances to put the game to bed and didn't take them. Scotland had heart and passion but they were just throwing everything they could at it, they didn't play smart. Scotland lacked quality, that's not being unlucky.



Scotland had 19 shots with 4 on target, 4 off target
Czech had 10 shots with 7 on target, 3 off target

Scotland had 11 shots blocked
Czech had 0 shots blocked

To me that says Czech had a better quality of attack and defence. It honestly looked that way too, they need to play smarter.
Vaclik made three good saves at key times ultimately.

0-0 and tips it over from Robertson.

1-0 and Scotland have strong start to second half and he makes amazing save to stop the OG going in. Two minutes later you get the wondergoal.

Even at 2-0 he stops Dykes shot with his foot and were still 20 odd mins left so could've still been Ukraine type comeback.

It was average match generally. Czechs better at neat passing triangles as you'd expect but anyone would be happy getting them in last 16. If they qualify.

No wondergoal and he probably wins MOTM.
 

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It was both unlucky and lack of quality I think, Czechs were a better organized team and capitalized on that, Scotland even if more threatening looked less drilled and with luck not being on their side it’s an unfortunate result, could’ve easily been a draw. I think Scotland - England will be a fun game
 

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Vaclik made three good saves at key times ultimately.

0-0 and tips it over from Robertson.

1-0 and Scotland have strong start to second half and he makes amazing save to stop the OG going in. Two minutes later you get the wondergoal.

Even at 2-0 he stops Dykes shot with his foot and were still 20 odd mins left so could've still been Ukraine type comeback.

It was average match generally. Czechs better at neat passing triangles as you'd expect but anyone would be happy getting them in last 16. If they qualify.
Yeah breaking it down into stats just doesn’t work. If Scotland managed to get one of those chances in the whole game changes. Czech Republic defended well, but on another day that game goes differently. Tough one to take for Scotland but that’s the game.
 

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It was both unlucky and lack of quality I think, Czechs were a better organized team and capitalized on that, Scotland even if more threatening looked less drilled and with luck not being on their side it’s an unfortunate result, could’ve easily been a draw. I think Scotland - England will be a fun game
The English players will be thinking the exact same thing :lol:
 

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Don't agree with that really. Everyone saying Scotland were unlucky, Czechs had some really good chances to put the game to bed and didn't take them. Scotland had heart and passion but they were just throwing everything they could at it, they didn't play smart. Scotland lacked quality, that's not being unlucky.



Scotland had 19 shots with 4 on target, 4 off target
Czech had 10 shots with 7 on target, 3 off target

Scotland had 11 shots blocked
Czech had 0 shots blocked

To me that says Czech had a better quality of attack and defence. It honestly looked that way too, they need to play smarter.
Yeah and funnily (smarter) Anti-football beat anti-football. Also you usually don't go all out with 2:0 up..
 

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Vaclik made three good saves at key times ultimately.
0-0 and tips it over from Robertson.
1-0 and Scotland have strong start to second half and he makes amazing save to stop the OG going in. Two minutes later you get the wondergoal.
Even at 2-0 he stops Dykes shot with his foot and were still 20 odd mins left so could've still been Ukraine type comeback.
It was average match generally. Czechs better at neat passing triangles as you'd expect but anyone would be happy getting them in last 16. If they qualify.
No wondergoal and he probably wins MOTM.
Good point but I think what you said there is solidifying it was more quality in the Czech regards than luck. Keeper makes 3 great saves but that doesn't make Scotland "unlucky not to win" imo, it means Vaclik was on form and better than Marshall. Same as the Czech defence in comparison to the Scots. Maybe the luck thing was annoying me because that's all the commentators kept saying, and it was taking away from a good Czech performance against a pumped up Scottish side.
 

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Yeah and funnily (smarter) Anti-football beat anti-football. Also you usually don't go all out with 2:0 up..
All I was thinking watching that is what a joy the late 90s/early 2000s Czech team was to watch. Proper golden generation that has never been replaced since bar the odd top level player like Cech who crossed the two eras.

Czech Republic bit like Romania since, not qualified for World cup since 2006.
 

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Good point but I think what you said there is solidifying it was more quality in the Czech regards than luck. Keeper makes 3 great saves but that doesn't make Scotland "unlucky not to win" imo, it means Vaclik was on form and better than Marshall. Same as the Czech defence in comparison to the Scots. Maybe the luck thing was annoying me because that's all the commentators kept saying, and it was taking away from a good Czech performance against a pumped up Scottish side.
Czechs are o.k but anyone would be happy playing them in last 16 but far from done deal they'll even make knock outs. It's a long way from Cech, Jankoluski, Ufelusi, Smicer, Galasek, Nedved, Baros, Koller and a few I've forgotten. What a brilliant team that was.
 

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I adore Hamsik's dedication to the mohawk that doesn't suit him at all.
 

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Vaclik made three good saves at key times ultimately.

It was average match generally. Czechs better at neat passing triangles as you'd expect but anyone would be happy getting them in last 16. If they qualify.
The same can be said about Scotland, unless you think France, Belgium,Netherlands,Italy,Germany, and Portugal might be afraid of Scotland.

Also Czech Republic will be tough for teams who aren't France,Spain,England,Portugal,Belgium,Germany,Netherlands, and Italy...which are only 8 teams out of the 16 who will qualify to the knockout stage.
 
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It’s dreadful posting to suggest Fernandes, Pogba, Fred, Matic & van de Beek are better footballers then McTominay? How exactly? Elaborate please.
You're just an incessant drain on the place. Forever moaning. That's why you keep getting negative responses to your posts. Absolutely awful style in how you go about things and try and make your points.
 

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All I was thinking watching that is what a joy the late 90s/early 2000s Czech team was to watch. Proper golden generation that has never been replaced since bar the odd top level player like Cech who crossed the two eras.

Czech Republic bit like Romania since, not qualified for World cup since 2006.
It's rightfully disappointing that for a country of a similar size to Belgium which took massive steps forward it went so downhill. A lot of corruption underinvestment in youth development and favouritism unfortunately played its part perhaps just a natural football cycle too. Few bright spots here and there but that's it. It resulted almost in no interest in international football for me. However we are certainly better than Romania no doubt just one Rosický away to be Euro's regular :wenger: certainly lacking in that creative CM area. Hložek can't carry this team on his back in the near future alone :wenger:.

I will happily enjoy every goal in this tournament though, can't be more happy with a brace like that after today.
 

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Commnentators desperate to pretend Scotland were in the game (even at two down). Tosh. Beaten easily by a much better side. Scorland hardly built any pressure - two reasonable saves needed but that's not pressure. meanwhile, we had the return of that comedy favourite: a Scottish goalkeeper! reminded me of Jim Leighton!
 

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You're just an incessant drain on the place. Forever moaning. That's why you keep getting negative responses to your posts. Absolutely awful style in how you go about things and try and make your points.
Yet i’m always respectful & never abusive to other posters. Perhaps that’s a better way to post, rather than throwing your toys out the pram anytime somebody has an opinion you don’t share?

Thinking Mctominay isn’t good enough to start for us really isn’t a controversial opinion. It’s pretty unanimously agreed upon by most fans.
 

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wonder how few minutes it will take for lewandowski to score! would cause havoc in a better team
 

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Yet i’m always respectful & never abusive to other posters. Perhaps that’s a better way to post, rather than throwing your toys out the pram anytime somebody has an opinion you don’t share?

Thinking Mctominay isn’t good enough to start for us really isn’t a controversial opinion. It’s pretty unanimously agreed upon by most fans.
I'm entitled to be critical of your post. It's the Euros and Scotland are playing but rather than give a rational opinion and say "Mctominay is playing really poorly" you end up managing to bring in criticism of United who aren't even playing. It's tiresome and really grates on people. Most genuine United fans can appreciate Mctominay for what he is and value the fact he's home grown, plays with his heart on his sleeve and is a useful member of the squad.

If you'd stop continually seeking out opportunities to shit on the club you're meant to love you'd perhaps levy some favour from other forum members. As it stands though your opinions aren't respected by anyone and are often associated with the knee jerk tripe you'd expect from nothing more than an errant child.
 

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The last time Poland scored more than 1 goal in a major tournament was 16 years ago. Bartosz Bosacki scored 2 goals against Costa Rica in the last group match at WC 06.

Should be a goalfest today.
 

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I'm entitled to be critical of your post. It's the Euros and Scotland are playing but rather than give a rational opinion and say "Mctominay is playing really poorly" you end up managing to bring in criticism of United who aren't even playing. It's tiresome and really grates on people. Most genuine United fans can appreciate Mctominay for what he is and value the fact he's home grown, plays with his heart on his sleeve and is a useful member of the squad.

If you'd stop continually seeking out opportunities to shit on the club you're meant to love you'd perhaps levy some favour from other forum members. As it stands though your opinions aren't respected by anyone and are often associated with the knee jerk tripe you'd expect from nothing more than an errant child.
I didn’t criticise United, I asked how does he start for us when he looks like a weak link in a poor Scotland side & we have better players on the bench. I don’t care if he’s homegrown & “plays with his heart on his sleeve” I care about how good at football he is & if we can challenge for premier & champions league titles with him in the side. What does him being homegrown have to do with how good he is?
 

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All I was thinking watching that is what a joy the late 90s/early 2000s Czech team was to watch. Proper golden generation that has never been replaced since bar the odd top level player like Cech who crossed the two eras.

Czech Republic bit like Romania since, not qualified for World cup since 2006.
Also people tend to forget Czechs played in two Euro finals and won one of them already - huge history there and not many countries achieved more.
 

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Good point but I think what you said there is solidifying it was more quality in the Czech regards than luck. Keeper makes 3 great saves but that doesn't make Scotland "unlucky not to win" imo, it means Vaclik was on form and better than Marshall. Same as the Czech defence in comparison to the Scots. Maybe the luck thing was annoying me because that's all the commentators kept saying, and it was taking away from a good Czech performance against a pumped up Scottish side.
I say Scotland were unlucky, not that they should have won. But with a bit more luck the game changes completely. Whether Scotland had it in them to use that to kick on and win is another thing. Unlucky might not be the right word taking it at face value. I don't think they were worse than the Czech's, it was just one of those days where nothing went their way when it mattered.
 

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I didn’t criticise United, I asked how does he start for us when he looks like a weak link in a poor Scotland side & we have better players on the bench. I don’t care if he’s homegrown & “plays with his heart on his sleeve” I care about how good at football he is & if we can challenge for premier & champions league titles with him in the side. What does him being homegrown have to do with how good he is?
As I said wrong thread and wrong moment to be moaning about United.

You clearly don't 'get' United.
 

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Didn't watch the game but just saw the highlight of that goal. Wow.

But the commentary on it cracked me up. The man made it sound like the lad just tapped it in from 5 yards. I know you're a Scot, but give it some respect :lol:
 

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Krychowiak never quite progressed as well as expected, after winning the EL with Sevilla. Was supposed to be a good DM.
 

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Krychowiak never quite progressed as well as expected, after winning the EL with Sevilla. Was supposed to be a good DM.
He was great at Sevilla, I remember us being interested in signing him, then he went to PSG for big money, where he sadly got swallowed up & lost his way. He had everything you would want in a DM at Sevilla. Fierce but clever, he was a ram raiding defensive mid.
 
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As I said wrong thread and wrong moment to be moaning about United.

You clearly don't 'get' United.
How exactly? You haven’t explained anything, you just criticised me for saying Mctominay isn’t good enough to start for us & used “homegrown” to justify why he is. McTominay being from our academy doesn’t mean anything if he isn’t good enough. There’s a reason players like Beckham, Giggs, Scholes & now potentially Greenwood are so special. It doesn’t mean anything to be a homegrown player in the team if you not good enough. By your logic Drinkwater & Welbeck should still be here, they are homegrown & they play with heart. If that’s all it takes then there’s no reason why they shouldn’t.