So much for all the PR articles in the international break.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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This Arsenal performance is embarrassing. Further proof, not that we needed it. Move on, Arsenal. Hire someone better.
Arsenal are 12th in xPTS. For reference Sunday league level United are 11th.
Their current position flatters them, hopefully Ramsdale's good form doesn't last much longer and we see them slide down the table.
Their current position flatters them, hopefully Ramsdale's good form doesn't last much longer and we see them slide down the table.
They won't because the media and most Arsenal supporters seem to think he's very good. By the time that myth proves just that, another 2-3 seasons will have passed.
This is simply not true.
I didn't like him at all, but he gets many points today for opposing Klopp.
Completely brain dead thing to do, after 30 minutes of having somewhat successfully tried to destroy the game, time wasting and playing it slow, he got the home crowd riled up and Liverpool shifting gear into full throttle. The guy is an amateur.
What
You do understand Klopp did the same thing? It's just that Arteta was on right side of argument considering the foul from Mane was clear as a day.
Did you even try to understand my point?What
You do understand Klopp did the same thing? It's just that Arteta was on right side of argument considering the foul from Mane was clear as a day.
He is not a player that tackled an opposition player in the box and made a brain dead thing. He attacked opposition manager because he has tried to influence a referee and rightfully so, it had nothing to do with teams' performances like you are implying.
You must have watched a different game than me, because in today's game on my planet, Arsenal never got a foot back in from the very second after Arteta's antics. He did his team a massive disservice.
Didn't expect much against an inform Liverpool although the media really do buy into Arteta, lots of promotion in trusting the process and pumping him up each weekend.
Arteta slept with Hansi’s mum, you’re not going to get anywhere with him
Yeah.. you're better than that. I want to give you a proper reply to your earlier posts at some point when I get to it, but I won't do it after a big Arsenal loss to untangle it from knee jerk dynamics. Short preview, I'm so staunchly anti-Arteta these days because I actually like Arsenal and want them to do well.
Ole will get arteta sacked when we fluke a win.
I’m really, really not.
That's fine too
Yeah, the whole Arteta thing is such a blatant case of emperor’s new clothes. The only reason he’s still hanging on in there this season has been favourable fixtures and heroic last ditch defending/saves by the goalkeeper. Crazy how much credit he got for a not particularly impressive run of results. Reality bit tonight in a big way.
That's fine too
Also I don’t think anyone could accuse you of being reactive/knee jerk, you’ve been pretty consistent throughout
I wasn't posting then, but I was on the Arteta train for a few months after his appointment, too, before I realized he's actually a poor Spanish man's Moyes rather than a new Pep with hair. FA Cup win against Chelsea pulled me back in, shortly, but in hindsight it was a false dawn against an opponent I severely overrated (as I thought high of Lampard, back then, too).
Also I don’t think anyone could accuse you of being reactive/knee jerk, you’ve been pretty consistent throughout
By the end of the season you’ll be on the Arteta train, quote me on that!
We should make some kind of bet. Let me think about it.
Not at all sure what you mean by favorable fixtures.
We're 5th and three points off 4th having played Man City and Liverpool away in addition to Chelsea, Tottenham and Leicester. Half of the teams we played are currently in the top half of the table.
Turns out Arteta has won the Ole, Lampard, Arteta sack survival trophy.
Will he last the season though? I was sure he was gone at one point this year, surely he can't survive another blip like that?
Next best thing after the '4th place trophy'
And the reason you’re 5th is because the teams competing for that place in the table have been just as crap as Arsenal (some of them - naming no names - even worse) You have played some big teams but lost in every match against them. Apart from, maybe, Spurs. But they’re so shit even we beat them.
It's also always telling when the competitors who do just as bad end up sacking their managers and appointing new ones in order to improve, while Arsenal stick with their guy. It's not hard to predict that Arsenal will finish behind Spurs in the end, and very probably now Man United too.
Don't forget the Emirates Cup!
Right at the top!
Q: What does Pep say when Arteta tries to manhandle him?
A: Lego of me.
A: Lego of me.
In your opinion, what would be an acceptable season from Arsenal?
With the money invested in their team, Spurs and United both sacking their manager and Leicester off to their worst start in years, anything below fourth place would be a below par season for Arsenal. This is their best chance to secure CL in years.
Right now they’re 1 and 3 points clear, respectively, of the two clubs I mentioned that already fired their managers. Which says it all really.
Putting aside that this ignores all context about the strength of the squads when the managers took over, and their previous league performances, as I've already spoken in depth about that in this thread and I'm sure we have differing opinions on those factors. If they get fourth this season, does that mean the emperor does indeed have a fine set of new clothes?
Yeah, he’ll have done a good job. Not amazing. Good. Breaking into the top three would be legitimately impressive.
Pep seems to be a big fan of Arteta and even suggested they might challenge for the title, but they still don't look all that. We football fans are mostly clueless, so maybe he's on to something that we don't see. If they continue to beat most of the teams they're supposed to beat, they can qualify may qualify for the Europa league or even challenge for a top 4 spot depending on how the other contenders do.
Then I'll be an Arsenal fan solely for pointless internet cred come may, and more pertinently to not be told I told you so by you and Hansi.
Oh God. What have I done now?!
And I hope he is never sacked.