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He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
So much for all the PR articles in the international break.
They won't because the media and most Arsenal supporters seem to think he's very good. By the time that myth proves just that, another 2-3 seasons will have passed.This Arsenal performance is embarrassing. Further proof, not that we needed it. Move on, Arsenal. Hire someone better.
This is simply not true.most Arsenal supporters seem to think he's very good
Completely brain dead thing to do, after 30 minutes of having somewhat successfully tried to destroy the game, time wasting and playing it slow, he got the home crowd riled up and Liverpool shifting gear into full throttle. The guy is an amateur.I didn't like him at all, but he gets many points today for opposing Klopp.
WhatCompletely brain dead thing to do after 20 minutes of having tried to destroy the game time wasting and playing it slow, got the home crowd riled up and Liverpool shifting gear into full throttle. The guy is an amateur.
Did you even try to understand my point?What
You do understand Klopp did the same thing? It's just that Arteta was on right side of argument considering the foul from Mane was clear as a day.
He is not a player that tackled an opposition player in the box and made a brain dead thing. He attacked opposition manager because he has tried to influence a referee and rightfully so, it had nothing to do with teams' performances like you are implying.Did you even try to understand my point?
You must have watched a different game than me, because in today's game on my planet, Arsenal never got a foot back in from the very second after Arteta's antics. He did his team a massive disservice.He is not a player that tackled an opposition player in the box and made a brain dead thing. He attacked opposition manager because he has tried to influence a referee and rightfully so, it had nothing to do with teams' performances like you are implying.
Arteta slept with Hansi’s mum, you’re not going to get anywhere with himHe is not a player that tackled an opposition player in the box and made a brain dead thing. He attacked opposition manager because he has tried to influence a referee and rightfully so, it had nothing to do with teams' performances like you are implying.
Yeah.. you're better than that. I want to give you a proper reply to your earlier posts at some point when I get to it, but I won't do it after a big Arsenal loss to untangle it from knee jerk dynamics. Short preview, I'm so staunchly anti-Arteta these days because I actually like Arsenal and want them to do well.Arteta slept with Hansi’s mum, you’re not going to get anywhere with him
I’m really, really not.Yeah.. you're better than that. I want to give you a proper reply to your earlier posts at some point when I get to it, but I won't do it after a big Arsenal loss to counteract the knee jerk dynamics. Short preview, I'm so staunchly anti-Arteta these days because I actually like Arsenal and want them to do well.
That's fine tooI’m really, really not.
Yeah, the whole Arteta thing is such a blatant case of emperor’s new clothes. The only reason he’s still hanging on in there this season has been favourable fixtures and heroic last ditch defending/saves by the goalkeeper. Crazy how much credit he got for a not particularly impressive run of results. Reality bit tonight in a big way.Arsenal are 12th in xPTS. For reference Sunday league level United are 11th.
Their current position flatters them, hopefully Ramsdale's good form doesn't last much longer and we see them slide down the table.
That's fine too
I wasn't posting then, but I was on the Arteta train for a few months after his appointment, too, before I realized he's actually a poor Spanish man's Moyes rather than a new Pep with hair. FA Cup win against Chelsea pulled me back in, shortly, but in hindsight it was a false dawn against an opponent I severely overrated (as I thought high of Lampard, back then, too).
Also I don’t think anyone could accuse you of being reactive/knee jerk, you’ve been pretty consistent throughout
By the end of the season you’ll be on the Arteta train, quote me on that!I wasn't posting then, but I was on the Arteta train for a few months after his appointment, too, before I realized he's actually a poor Spanish man's Moyes rather than a new Pep with hair. FA Cup win against Chelsea pulled me back in, shortly, but in hindsight it was a false dawn against an opponent I severely overrated (as I thought high of Lampard, back then, too).
We should make some kind of bet. Let me think about it.By the end of the season you’ll be on the Arteta train, quote me on that!
Not at all sure what you mean by favorable fixtures.Yeah, the whole Arteta thing is such a blatant case of emperor’s new clothes. The only reason he’s still hanging on in there this season has been favourable fixtures and heroic last ditch defending/saves by the goalkeeper. Crazy how much credit he got for a not particularly impressive run of results. Reality bit tonight in a big way.
Will he last the season though? I was sure he was gone at one point this year, surely he can't survive another blip like that?Turns out Arteta has won the Ole, Lampard, Arteta sack survival trophy.
Next best thing after the '4th place trophy'Turns out Arteta has won the Ole, Lampard, Arteta sack survival trophy.
And the reason you’re 5th is because the teams competing for that place in the table have been just as crap as Arsenal (some of them - naming no names - even worse) You have played some big teams but lost in every match against them. Apart from, maybe, Spurs. But they’re so shit even we beat them.Not at all sure what you mean by favorable fixtures.
We're 5th and three points off 4th having played Man City and Liverpool away in addition to Chelsea, Tottenham and Leicester. Half of the teams we played are currently in the top half of the table.
It's also always telling when the competitors who do just as bad end up sacking their managers and appointing new ones in order to improve, while Arsenal stick with their guy. It's not hard to predict that Arsenal will finish behind Spurs in the end, and very probably now Man United too.And the reason you’re 5th is because the teams competing for that place in the table have been just as crap as Arsenal (some of them - naming no names - even worse) You have played some big teams but lost in every match against them. Apart from, maybe, Spurs. But they’re so shit even we beat them.
CLNext best thing after the '4th place trophy'
Don't forget the Emirates Cup!CL
PL
Fa Cup
Audi Cup
4th place trophy
Ole, Arteta, Lampard survival medal
Right at the top!Don't forget the Emirates Cup!
Yeah, the whole Arteta thing is such a blatant case of emperor’s new clothes. The only reason he’s still hanging on in there this season has been favourable fixtures and heroic last ditch defending/saves by the goalkeeper. Crazy how much credit he got for a not particularly impressive run of results. Reality bit tonight in a big way.
They have a nice run of fixtures coming up: Norwich, Burnley, Spurs, Brighton, Palace, Villa, Leicester, Watford.
Yet with Arteta in charge any of those teams could beat them without surprise.
In your opinion, what would be an acceptable season from Arsenal?All those teams in bold could easily beat Arsenal if they’re anywhere near their best on the day.
With the money invested in their team, Spurs and United both sacking their manager and Leicester off to their worst start in years, anything below fourth place would be a below par season for Arsenal. This is their best chance to secure CL in years.In your opinion, what would be an acceptable season from Arsenal?
Putting aside that this ignores all context about the strength of the squads when the managers took over, and their previous league performances, as I've already spoken in depth about that in this thread and I'm sure we have differing opinions on those factors. If they get fourth this season, does that mean the emperor does indeed have a fine set of new clothes?With the money invested in their team, Spurs and United both sacking their manager and Leicester off to their worst start in years, anything below fourth place would be a below par season for Arsenal. This is their best chance to secure CL in years.
Right now they’re 1 and 3 points clear, respectively, of the two clubs I mentioned that already fired their managers. Which says it all really.
Yeah, he’ll have done a good job. Not amazing. Good. Breaking into the top three would be legitimately impressive.Putting aside that this ignores all context about the strength of the squads when the managers took over, and their previous league performances, as I've already spoken in depth about that in this thread and I'm sure we have differing opinions on those factors. If they get fourth this season, does that mean the emperor does indeed have a fine set of new clothes?
Then I'll be an Arsenal fan solely for pointless internet cred come may, and more pertinently to not be told I told you so by you and Hansi.Yeah, he’ll have done a good job. Not amazing. Good. Breaking into the top three would be legitimately impressive.
Oh God. What have I done now?!Then I'll be an Arsenal fan solely for pointless internet cred come may, and more pertinently to not be told I told you so by you and Hansi.
And I hope he is never sacked.Turns out Arteta has won the Ole, Lampard, Arteta sack survival trophy.