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If only everyone was as open-minded as you to being proved wrong!You win too. These reasonable responses are just too damn fair!
If only everyone was as open-minded as you to being proved wrong!You win too. These reasonable responses are just too damn fair!
If only everyone was as open-minded as you to being proved wrong!
Have we really extended the pandemic? What do you base this on?Apart from the obvious catastrophic more deaths and people suffering long term consequences it would of been over a lot faster if we did nothing that's about it.
We have extended the length of the pandemic but in the process saved countless lives.
saying stuff like the vaccines didn’t do anything that matters kind of leads to being what you call ‚popular‘ (it isn’t that)Wow. I'm popular. Perhaps that is the lure of being an anti-vaxxer?
Well, I never said the vaccines didn't do anything, so there is no need to be annoyed, frustrated or sick.saying stuff like the vaccines didn’t do anything that matters kind of leads to being what you call ‚popular‘ (it isn’t that)
you make people angry by spouting that nonsense, that’s all. It’s annoying, frustrating and sickening.
its pretty self explanatory social distancing, working from home all the measures taking have prolonged it but bought us time to try and solve it, obviously not all countries are in the same position to do this.Have we really extended the pandemic? What do you base this on?
Think he’s talking about that same time. At least he is consistent if nothing else. Oh by the way I had a spot on my ankle the other day. 63% sure it was Omicron!Weren’t you posting a few weeks ago about some other random illness that you convinced yourself was covid?! I don’t think your immune system is near as strong as you think it is. You sound like quite a sickly person.
Sorry, maybe Im thick but it doesnt seem self explanatory to me.its pretty self explanatory social distancing, working from home all the measures taking have prolonged it but bought us time to try and solve it, obviously not all countries are in the same position to do this.
It cant be, it only affects kneesThink he’s talking about that same time. At least he is consistent if nothing else. Oh by the way I had a spot on my ankle the other day. 63% sure it was Omicron!
you implied it…now stop being silly about it, you we’re talking shit and seem to understand that now, which is goodWell, I never said the vaccines didn't do anything, so there is no need to be annoyed, frustrated or sick.
I'm not being silly. I was questioning the truth. That is how each individual gets a better understanding of it. It's good you will leave it at that. It's a relief, really.you implied it…now stop being silly about it, you we’re talking shit and seem to understand that now, which is good
I will leave it at that
Well I’m fecked then cos I dislocated my knee cap like 9 years ago. Wait, covid was secretly around all that time????It cant be, it only affects knees
Thanks for taking the time to respond. But please Rpitroda, don't call it "my theory". It isn't. I was just a little uncertain and needed to see the light again.@Shakesey
The other problem with your theory is you’re effectively ignoring the future impact of vaccination. Take flu for example - I have no idea of the actual figures but speaking intuitively, without annual flu jags I presume “x” more people would die. But for a significant majority of the population the jab doesn’t do anything because they catch flu, build some immunity to the variant and carry on. Next year even if it mutates they catch it and same cycle. However for a small portion, if they didn’t take the vaccine they might die from that infection that year. The critical thing though is that the deaths most likely would only occur in that segment.
Once this becomes endemic, you will have a cohort of people who will get repeat infections and maintain immunity from that. But there is a cohort which, if they didn’t have a vaccine and got reinfected, have a higher chance of passing away. So you’re right in some ways that we will live with Covid with the largest portion of people getting by with infection and immunity. But the ones who could die, will likely need vaccination to supplement their immunity each year. And so whilst a small portion of the people will rely on it, as these are the ones most likely to die, the vaccine is significantly more important than immunity in death prevention.
If ya write it, ya gotta own itThanks for taking the time to respond. But please Rpitroda, don't call it "my theory". It isn't. I was just a little uncertain and needed to see the light again.
Fek! That'll teach me to read the small print!If ya write it, ya gotta own it
Tks.Here’s a good analysis of deaths.
- After adjusting for region, population density, socio-demographic and household characteristics, the raised risk of death involving COVID-19 for people of Black ethnic background of all ages together was 2.0 times greater for males and 1.4 times greater for females compared with those of White ethnic background.
- Males of Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian ethnic background also had a significantly higher risk of death involving COVID-19 (1.5 and 1.6 times, respectively) than White males once region, population density, socio-demographic and household characteristics were accounted for; whilst for females in Bangladeshi or Pakistani, Indian, Chinese and Mixed ethnic groups the risk of death involving COVID-19 was equivalent to White females.
That analysis is pre-omicron. So it is possible there’s a genetic difference. By far the most likely explanation is a much higher % with previous exposure to covid, combined with high proportion of most vulnerable sadly already dead (same as SA)Tks.
I was interested because omicron started surging in Mumbai a few weeks ago. We are decently vaccinated but only with AZ and no boosters, but hospitalizations and cases rose and fell very quickly (faster than the UK/US as far as I can tell). Was wondering if it was a genetic difference underlying it, and UK is the one developed country with a big Indian population. But from that data, seems it's something else. Maybe weather.
Not really because I think off the global death rate.. 5.5million dead.. that we know off.. with the help of vaccines. I dread to think what it would have been like with no vaccine help. It would have been even more rampant and even more deadly. God knows what kind of variants we’d be dealing with now. The Spanish flu didn’t have to deal with mass global travelChrist, I hate siding with an anti-vaxxer here, but when this pandemic ends it'll be more down to immunity due to infection than immunity due to the vaccines... Case in point - South Africa. The majority hasn't been vaccinated, and yet our figures (and I don't think it's due to a lack of testing) are looking rather good. Look, I know vaccines are helping us to get out of this mess, but the Spanish Flu and numerous other infectious diseases have been beaten by mutating viruses or herd immunity through prior infection. I'm not belittling the influence the vaccines have had, but sometimes I feel we're maybe glorifying them just a tad too much... Surely all of you have secretly wondered if this mightn't be the case?
Good luck! However I believe false positives are rare so assume you have for now is the probably adviceTested positive this morning on a rapid self test, waiting for results on the pcr.
No symptoms at all as of now.
Not a big surprise.‘Nocebo effect’: two-thirds of Covid jab reactions not caused by vaccine, study suggests
What are you on about? That’s what it’s called."Nocebo Effect"?
That's awful!
First time I hear that word. I thought it was a dreadful pun. Sorry.What are you on about? That’s what it’s called.
most restrictions is basically where we were before.Tweet
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This is much better than I was expecting.
This feels really significant.
Yes. We went to get tested for the first time since the pandemic started because she had a slightly sire throat and I then got tested more for moral support than anything else - both negative. Luckily the queues for PCR testing have come down and instead of up to 6 hrs and many days for a result we only had to wait 10 mins and the result was back in 7 hrs. Pissing down with rain so that might have helped.I can't find the info, but was your wife tested as well?
Very hard to get here and we have to pay for them at $15-30 a time.I find it incredible people haven't even done lateral flow tests.
When we were going into work I'd do them at least twice a week. When going to big events, or group gatherings, I'd do one then. Seems a pretty selfless thing to do to make sure you're not asymptomatic and spreading it to others.
There is actually quite a bit of debate about using this name. A placebo and a nocebo are exactly the same thing only you are making a judgement that the effect is desirable or undesirable. The issue is where the effect could be desirable or undesirable to different people e.g. a lowering of blood pressure could be the effect which would be an adverse outcome for most but a positive outcome for someone with high blood pressure.First time I hear that word. I thought it was a dreadful pun. Sorry.
Can't wait till the masks are gone, my beard will be set freeEverything should be lifted by lunchtime tomorrow if the Irish government had any quick decision capabilities.
Masks will naturally die in the next few weeks regardless of what the guidelines are anyway.
I'm delighted covid passes are being done away with, I was really worried that was going to be some sort of a permanent thing.
Let's get back to living!
I'm good but thanks for the offer and I'll let you know if I ever need any. Fully recovered now?I’ve brought back loads of testing kits from the UK if anyone in Sydney is in dire need
I still have a bit of a cough and some fatigue, but nothing too troubling really - thanksI'm good but thanks for the offer and I'll let you know if I ever need any. Fully recovered now?
I have read some things n here over the years but that is one of the .... least informed lets say.Never had a test and never had a jab. I had a sore throat a few days ago, perhaps it was Omicron, don't know, don't care. My immune system handled it like it always does.
If the pandemic is coming to an end why do you think that might be? And what do you mean obsolete?Is the pandemic coming to an end? Will people who didn't get jabbed still be discriminated against even after the pandemic is over? For how long? Months? Years? Forever? If there is no pandemic do I still need to get the jab? How any jabs? If they bring out a new jab do I still need to take 2 doses of the obsolete jab?
Why not?I do agree that we can't keep getting jabbed forever.
It doesn't seem sustainable. Having Covid jabs alongside flu shots annually seems like a likely scenario assuming new variants keep coming up.Why not?