I’ll always be thankful for what he’s done for us, and for being an incredible shot stopper, but fundamentally he’s just too passive, and too scared. We need to move on from him this summer.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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That first goal is just a fluke. There isn’t a keeper on the planet who saves that. Please cop on to yourselves. Second goal, should have done better, no doubt.
Where Exactly will Man Utd be league position wise after all these years without De Gea?
Long may he continue between the sticks
Replace him with who exactly??
Long may he continue between the sticks
Replace him with who exactly??
This is the attitude that cracks me up. It's like people think the only two possible options are De Gea or an open goal.
Well, nobody can really answer that but the one time when he was officially dropped, which was last season, every single element of the team improved.
We won more games, we scored more goals and we conceded less goals.
I'm not saying that Henderson is the answer because I haven't seen enough of him to judge, but I am saying that a more proactive goalkeeper would help the team overall, even if they weren't as good of a shot stopper.
What happened when Henderson played last season backs this theory up, as does what happened with Spain before and after De Gea was their number one.
They basically went from being the dominant force in international football before De Gea to being absolute garbage while he was their number one.
Now they've dropped him for Unai Simon, they're up there as one of the top sides in the world again, coincidence? In my opinion, absolutely not.
I'll repeat again, there's more to goal-keeping than shot stopping, it's that simple.
Maybe we would be higher due to having a proactive goalkeeper? A goalkeeper isn’t just a shot stopper, if he was capable of being off his line, maybe we would push higher up the pitch and not allow so much pressure on the defence
After the season he's having? Deary me....
Absolutely because his weaknesses still remains and though his current form is great it isn't simply sustainable but it might make it easier for United to attract a buyer without taking much of a financial hit . But if we actually renew his contract then Club would have learnt nothing .
We need a new manager to bring in new defenders, midfielders and forwards. After that we can look into getting a new goalkeeper. The least of our problems right now. Won a league title with us and would have won a few more with Real if the transfer went through. Mental to suggest he's the reason behind our trophy drought.
Replace De Gea with WHOM?? Thats the question!
https://www.livescore.com/en/news/d...myself-away-from-man-utd-2022022112521056069/
Just ran into this, come nice comments from him.
Just ran into this, come nice comments from him.
The state of some of the so called fans in here, De Gea is the very least of our problems, I hope this is a knee jerk reaction to that fluke of a goal, if not I think you may need to go back and see how many time Dave has single Handley saved us from defeat and/or dropping points
First goal is a fluke but a preventable one. As a keeper, positioning is key. When a player is wide the keeper should be closer to the back post. As a player moves in then you get closer to front post. So on that goal, if he's closer to his back post like he should be, he easily tips it over the bar. He will learn from it and even though I've been very critical of him in the past with some of his basics and positioning, this one is an easy fix. As for the second goal, that one is all on Shaw. You never turn your back on your man...
The criticism of De Gea here is appalling. He's easily been out player of the season to date. But let's say it is time to flush him down the toilet. Who would we like to bring in to upgrade on De Gea?
Neuer
Allison
Donnarumma
Courtois
Ederson
Highly unlikely any of those keepers are coming to OT any time soon.
And of those, only Neuer, Allison and Donnarumma would be worth moving heaven and earth for and that's just not in the cards.
Neuer
Allison
Donnarumma
Courtois
Ederson
Highly unlikely any of those keepers are coming to OT any time soon.
And of those, only Neuer, Allison and Donnarumma would be worth moving heaven and earth for and that's just not in the cards.
Oblak would be on that list if it was last season's player and before. This season his bottom level has looked pretty bad. Probably a blip that he would recover from, but if DDG were to move (which looks unlikely), I would go for him
When the time comes we'll likely go for a younger goalkeeper rather than an established elite keeper already at a major club, I'd think.
The point of all the criticism is that while there are few goalkeepers who are as good as De Gea in terms of pure shot-stopping, there are several who could offer as much or more as an overall package to teams for whom shot-stopping isn't such a priority (i.e. the best teams).
If City or Liverpool suddenly had to replace Ederson/Alisson with a goalkeeper from within the PL for example, someone like Brighton's Sanchez would be far more valuable to them than a goalkeeper like De Gea would. In a scenario where we are building ourselves into that sort of team, it shouldn't be that hard to find a keeper of similar ilk from all across Europe.
This is something I never properly understood. All those saves that 'our' Dave made that 'single handedly saved us from defeat' - is everyone sure that another good goalkeeper like Mendy, or Ramsdale or Ederson could not save them? What's so special about those saves?The state of some of the so called fans in here, De Gea is the very least of our problems, I hope this is a knee jerk reaction to that fluke of a goal, if not I think you may need to go back and see how many time Dave has single Handley saved us from defeat and/or dropping points
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His only WC ability is shot stopping. We desperately need a Goalkeeper willing to play the ball and not give back possession.
I've been one of his biggest critics and agree if we want to change the way we play, he isn't the keeper to take us forward.
I didn't however expect to see his performance thread third down on the list today...I really wanted to criticise him for their first goal but its an absolute freak. Its hit with such pace, he's got no chance!
I didn't however expect to see his performance thread third down on the list today...I really wanted to criticise him for their first goal but its an absolute freak. Its hit with such pace, he's got no chance!
His distribution has been admittedly abysmal this season. I dont remember it being this bad in previous years? Never was a strength of his but not to the low level of accuracy we see nowadays
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At least he knows what he's supposed to be doing I guess.
Courtois would not be an upgrade and no one knows if Ederson is even a proper keeper...I saw a stat that he has only had to make 4 saves in his entire Man City career!!!!
De Gea is a big problem due to his reluctance to come off his line and command the box it places lot of pressure on the defenders even if you ignore the other aspects of his game which are lacking in comparison to other modern keepers .The state of some of the so called fans in here, De Gea is the very least of our problems, I hope this is a knee jerk reaction to that fluke of a goal, if not I think you may need to go back and see how many time Dave has single Handley saved us from defeat and/or dropping points
Yes his shot stopping is spectacular but some of the situations won't even arise if he would be braver in his approach and isn't always stuck on the goal line. It's time to thank him for his services and move on from him.
What a terrible video and analysis
Yeah De Gea is poor at sweeping but these random clips makes sky old pundits look like tactical geniuses.
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Does anyone here actually think that any goalkeeper in the World would've saved Moreno's goal? Most of you criticize him for staying on the line. Well this time he didn't. Only that was never an attempt to score
Seriously, I would really love to see him leave in the summer and see your reactions when you have realized what we had lost. But most of all for him, he doesn't deserve this.
Seriously, I would really love to see him leave in the summer and see your reactions when you have realized what we had lost. But most of all for him, he doesn't deserve this.
I would have saved it. But that's because when a player is hear the touchline with the ball i'm close to the far post. As the player comes in, then you get closer to the front post. Poor positioning was his downfall for the goal, not the shot itself (which was pure luck)...
Love it when Sunday leaguers try to tell elite professionals where they are going wrong.
You did see the pitch and conditions on Sunday?! Even Maguire completely shanked a routine free kick in his own half, let alone having to sort your feet out while getting pressed. The Leeds GK also had several shockers.
About 5 mins after this awb tried playing out from the back instead of getting rid and they equalised.
Just because pogba was able to do it doesn't mean everyone should have been.
I think he was hoofing because of the wind. The game was a bit of a crap shoot.
You realize he has been one of our best players? And who would replace him? We are worse without hin than with him, he is surely not an issue we have
I thought his ball playing ability improved under Rangnick actually, so I'm surprised to see criticism in that regard. Won't blame him for the first goal either, was just one of those total fluke goals.
He's still a bit shit at sweeping behind the high line and it's a pretty important part of what a GK should do these days.
He's still a bit shit at sweeping behind the high line and it's a pretty important part of what a GK should do these days.
What? Perhaps you're an elite amateur keeper and if so I respect that. But in all seriousness that really was a freak goal that I'm sure some keeper would have saved had he been rooted at the far post, but no keeper would be rooted at the far post at the moment that cross (and it was intended as a cross) was taken. The turf was heavy and there's no doubt that with the heavy turf De Gea lost a few inches on his leap. It's incredibly harsh to blame De Gea for that one.
I know he looked shite against us (and this season really compared to last) but I bet we go for Meslier if DDG leaves at the end of his contract. Best young available keeper in the league.
I would have been close to the back post when he kicked that. I wouldn't have had to back peddle. It was a basic positioning error
Meslier is class and a few shite games vs us doesn't change that. I rate him highly as well.
I don’t know much about the GK market outside of the PL but I think within the league he’s the best gettable player of the right age. He looks like he could be top class if he keeps improving.
So, what you’d want to see when an attacking player is attempting a cross is for the keeper to be rooted to the back post? That would be a schoolboy error.
Thank feck you aren't our goalkeeping coach then. Any goalie would keep himself as central as possible in that position, and not leave a wide goal like you are implying.
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