Everyone was tricked by Hamilton avoiding the wing, but it's quite obvious that the woman behind is doing the dirty work for him. You can clearly see that she messes up with the DRS part.
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well thats less than ideal as that means using a new engine at monaco where the circuit means you cant even really get any benefit from the extra power a new engine gives
If the first engine has 4 races on the clock they might consider going back to that one.
Taking a new engine and putting the first miles on it in Monaco is a big risk for damage and a big waste of power. Either decision a risk of course.
Really sad to see RB hand it to Max for the sake of 6 points. Perez deserved to race, and have Max overtake him on the track if he's a deserving champion. Telling him to pull aside just to get P1 and 6 more points since they gave Perez fastest lap is just silly. On a weekend where LeClerc gets 0 points and we're 6 races into the season there's no reason to be penny pinching for points and making your 2nd driver look a fool. I have no doubt that Max could have overtaken Perez on the track, so the whole exercise was completely pointless and just a display of 'Perez you are not important to us'. As the commentators said at the time, Both Max and Perez survived a wheel to wheel with the Merecedes lap after lap, trust your drivers to not be idiots - there's no animosity between them that's likely to result in them taking each other out or being spiteful. If I was Max I'd be telling Horner 'people are already saying I was handed the championship, I don't need you to hand me race wins by telling my team mate to let me win - I can go out there and make it happen myself.' Perez was always going to have to pit anyway which would give Max P1, or stay out on really old tyres and be overtaken naturally anyway by Max on much younger tyres. There was no need to force the inevitable to happen a few laps earlier and make your 2nd driver look like a bitch at the same time.
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both mere distraction techniques. your eyes are drawn to hamilton’s hands and his assistants shenanigans. neither of which actually make any contact with the car. all the while hamilton’s nut sack is running roughshod over every contour of the rear wing.
Ferrari would have the done exactly the same with Sainz if they'd been in the same situation. So would Mercedes if they had a competitive car and were in a title fight.
Doesn't matter if it's race 5 or 15. Last season proved exactly how much every point matters.
That doesn't make it any less disappointing.
The points were already inevitable, either Perez pits and gives Max P1 anyway naturally, or he makes the long stint work and gets overtaken on track ridiculously easily under DRS by much much fresher tyres. The only thing they accomplished by forcing it is making Perez look like a bitch, as he said it isn't fair and it wasn't necessary because it was going to happen anyway without being asked to move over.
I agree , it should not have been forced. It would have done wonders for Checo's team spirit if they let them race, I dont think Checo would have tried any heroics there if it was obvious Max was faster than him.
I think what they definitely should have done when Checo was catching up to George and Max was just tell Max to let him through, because he'd be pitting in a few laps anyway.
There was absolutely no point having Max leading Checo for the two laps before he pitted.
The same reason as always, they're incapable of having Max do anything that a number 2 would do, it's beneath him. He has the priority in all situations even dumb ones.
To be fair Max has always been seen as a once in a generation talent or whatever description you want to give it. Irrespective of what you think of last season he went head to head with Hamilton and held his own - not many that can say that as Hamilton is also a once in a generation talent.
Perez isn't. He's signed to RB as a number 2. Otherwise RIC wouldn't have left (he saw what was coming) and they may have got ALO or VET in.
Whilst it isn't a nice feeling I personally didn't see it as a big issue.
Doesn't Monaco always seem to creep up on the season? Last weekend gave me some optimism for a 3 team fight at the front and then I realised this weekend is wasted by watching some car park racing.
That being said I'm backing Bottas to do well, Alfa seems to be pretty good in the slow stuff and he's always done ok at Monaco. Can't rule out Alonso heroics either, a bit of a shake up might make it a bit more interesting at least.
That being said I'm backing Bottas to do well, Alfa seems to be pretty good in the slow stuff and he's always done ok at Monaco. Can't rule out Alonso heroics either, a bit of a shake up might make it a bit more interesting at least.
Number 2 drivers are given team instructions when necessary, otherwise they're allowed to race. The team instruction on the weekend was absolutely not necessary because of the pit stops left to complete. Reminding people of their lowly status just for the sake of it is a dickish thing to do.
I’m not sure Perez needed to pit, they only did for the fastest lap IMO. Russell who not only didn’t have the pace had overheating issues so was never going to come back on them and didn’t catch up to Max who was only just ahead of Perez. Perez was also said to be on a different strategy i.e. two stop earlier in the race vs the 3 for Max. They told him to move over and didn’t want Max having to try overtaking because of his dodgy DRS because he’s the number two in the team. It sucks for him but that’s why he’s got the lowly status of driving a Red Bull.
Plenty of unsettled weather in the forecast... It might not be boring.
Monaco weather looks like Sunday could be interesting.
2022 Monaco Grand Prix weekend weather forecast
FRIDAY, MAY 27 – FP1 AND FP2 WEATHER
Conditions: Mainly sunny but with a chance of rain in the late afternoon. FP1: 27°C // FP2: 26°C
Maximum temperature expected: 27 Celsius
Minimum temperature expected: 18 Celsius
Chance of rain: 20%
SATURDAY, MAY 28 – FP3 AND QUALIFYING WEATHER
Conditions: Mostly sunny at first but clouds begin to build up in the afternoon. FP3: 27°C // Q: 26°C
Maximum temperature expected: 27 Celsius
Minimum temperature expected: 18 Celsius
Chance of rain: 0%
SUNDAY, MAY 29 – RACE WEATHER
Conditions: Unsettled weather with rain showers possible. Race air temp: 22°C Maximum temperature expected: 22 Celsius
Minimum temperature expected: 18 Celsius
Chance of rain: 60%
2022 Monaco Grand Prix weekend weather forecast
FRIDAY, MAY 27 – FP1 AND FP2 WEATHER
Conditions: Mainly sunny but with a chance of rain in the late afternoon. FP1: 27°C // FP2: 26°C
Maximum temperature expected: 27 Celsius
Minimum temperature expected: 18 Celsius
Chance of rain: 20%
SATURDAY, MAY 28 – FP3 AND QUALIFYING WEATHER
Conditions: Mostly sunny at first but clouds begin to build up in the afternoon. FP3: 27°C // Q: 26°C
Maximum temperature expected: 27 Celsius
Minimum temperature expected: 18 Celsius
Chance of rain: 0%
SUNDAY, MAY 29 – RACE WEATHER
Conditions: Unsettled weather with rain showers possible. Race air temp: 22°C Maximum temperature expected: 22 Celsius
Minimum temperature expected: 18 Celsius
Chance of rain: 60%
And in classic Monoco fashion that will become clear blue skies by Sunday.
Is this the first time Monaco FP has been on a Friday ?
Lewis in 2016 once accused/implied people in his team of favouring Rosberg and maybe that being th explanation for his reliability issues. So he has said some terrible things as well.
Also nothing max said was bad or wrong. Dutch people curse a lot and he wasn't cursing at anyone specific.
He just said "they can't even fecking get the DRS to work" . Nothing wrong with that statement at all. He was right to be pisseed. Two mechanical DNFs, a Q3 ruined by DRS and then they replaced the DRS system and it still didn't work.
Had every right to say everything that he did. It's a fundamental part of racing now and without it you are completely handicapped.
DRS not working isn't acceptable and it's as simple as that.
Wasn't the biggest fan of the team orders but either way they where irrelevant as Max was 1.5 seconds quicker a lap and had that win in the bag.
Turned out the 3 stop was the quicker strategy so Checo was not going to win anyway.
It's not just what is said, it is what is done. L
for example, has Lewis ever purposely crashed into anyone?
Unless he has let's stop making the comparison.
The point was every driver says silly things over the radio. I don't think you realise how much adrenaline you have in your body driving. Look at Magnussen, accusing Hamilton of bashing him off on purpose, then said he didn't really mean it.
Tbf The Rosberg/Hamilton situation was very suspicious. Mercedes were bulletproof at that time and somehow he kept getting mechanical failures, enough to give Rosberg the lead
Lets be honest here, Perez will never win a race if Verstappen is in with a chance of winning also. They will purposely change his strategy or give him an extra pitstop just to get him out of the way.
He is the clear number 2 driver, but they obviously promised him a chance at winning which he isn't fairly being allowed. He might have had a chance to win, but they made sure he wouldn't be there.
The point was every driver says silly things over the radio. I don't think you realise how much adrenaline you have in your body driving. Look at Magnussen, accusing Hamilton of bashing him off on purpose, then said he didn't really mean it.
Tbf The Rosberg/Hamilton situation was very suspicious. Mercedes were bulletproof at that time and somehow he kept getting mechanical failures, enough to give Rosberg the lead
Lets be honest here, Perez will never win a race if Verstappen is in with a chance of winning also. They will purposely change his strategy or give him an extra pitstop just to get him out of the way.
He is the clear number 2 driver, but they obviously promised him a chance at winning which he isn't fairly being allowed. He might have had a chance to win, but they made sure he wouldn't be there.
You where implying Lewis never said anything as "Bad" but accusing your team of rigging the season against you is fairly fecking bad. Worse than a few curses I'd say.
Shouldn't Lewis be thankful he has had the best mechanical reliability of anyone on the entire grid?
I thought I'd dispute the stupid holier than thou argument is all.
Anyway Bottas was robbed of a decent amount of wins so it's fair game and it's part of the sport.
I highly doubt Checo could win but either way this shit happens with all teams. I wouldn't have done team orders myself as Max was about to breeze past him because of the tyres.
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I was just going to ask the same thing, I got very confused when I checked so see how FP1 was going and found its tomorrow.
Yawn.
Indeed it is boring to have to talk about things that apply to both drivers while some people pretend they don't.
Aside from Max and Rosberg and Vettel you mean?
Yawn.
If they really wanted to give Perez a shot at winning they would have re-pitted earlier to stay ahead of Max and now on fresh tyres. It would have been interesting to see this race with say Rosberg/Hamilton when Merc had no real #1 driver. I wonder how Hamilton will handle team orders later in the year if Russell is way ahead in points and perhaps trying to get 3rd overall.
Its been moved permanently to fit in with the other race weekends i.e. fri-sat-sun. A sign that Monaco isnt the special place it used to be for f1 in this era.
Interesting info about danny ric (who may lose his seat at mclaren next season).
""...While it would be dangerous to try to simplify Ricciardo’s 2021 cause to a single issue, it did often come back to how he attacks a braking zone and tries to rotate the car.
Despite being famously adept at late-braking passes, Ricciardo’s preferred style in normal conditions is to brake slightly earlier, with less pressure, and roll the speed into the corner.
That requires a positive front end to get the car rotated. At medium and low speed, the McLaren was ill-suited to this technique.
Team-mate Lando Norris was much more effective with a later, harder brake that facilitated a sharper rotation and allowed him to get on the power again quicker.
Ricciardo could not quite drill that technique into himself, even though he got better at it through the season...."
""...While it would be dangerous to try to simplify Ricciardo’s 2021 cause to a single issue, it did often come back to how he attacks a braking zone and tries to rotate the car.
Despite being famously adept at late-braking passes, Ricciardo’s preferred style in normal conditions is to brake slightly earlier, with less pressure, and roll the speed into the corner.
That requires a positive front end to get the car rotated. At medium and low speed, the McLaren was ill-suited to this technique.
Team-mate Lando Norris was much more effective with a later, harder brake that facilitated a sharper rotation and allowed him to get on the power again quicker.
Ricciardo could not quite drill that technique into himself, even though he got better at it through the season...."
Exactly, they could have easily put him on the same strategy as Max and probably would have won considering his DRS worked fine.
Instead they just left him on old tyres to make sure he stayed ahead of Russell.
mmmm dont really think this is the case.
Traditionally, the weekend of the Monaco Grand Prix weekend coincided with Ascension Day, which was a bank holiday in the principality, and the event was paused to allow regular traffic to move through the streets on the Friday.
Although this day is no longer celebrated as much, the tradition of holding two practice sessions on the Thursday, no practice sessions on the Friday, the final practice session and qualifying on the Saturday and the race on the Sunday had remained.
But, Formula 1 decided that 2022 was time for a change. There are many changes taking place in F1 right now and the organisers wanted to move this race's practice sessions in line with the usual race weekend schedule of Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with F1's CEO Stefano Domenicali confirming this change in September of 2021.
Some in Monaco are unhappy about the change, since those in the tourism and hospitality industry are losing one day of racing fans visiting the city.
He either needed to pit or he would have slowed down dramatically. His tyres would have been way past the recommended range if he stayed out and so he'd have been overtaken by Max anyway simply because his tyres were so old. Mercedes pointed out to Russell that he was going to go to the end and he said something like 'wow that's ambitious' or something like that and at that point the tyres would have finished 20 laps outside of their recommended limit.
I believe he just said "Blimey" which was very British of him
There was no reason to let them fight with a dodgy DRS and pushing engines in the heat. Perez still had pace at that point. On tyres I maintain he could've stayed out but they went for the fastest lap and took maximum points.
In his 3rd stint Perez did 16 laps on the yellow tyre C2. He then pit for the softer red tyre C3 and did 13 laps. That 3rd stint would've been 16 + 13 = 29 laps.
Hamilton stint 3 on the C2 tyre did 26 laps whilst rampaging through the field. Bottas completed 32 laps on C2.
3 laps longer than Hamilton when he'd managed his tyres and was coasting at end on lower fuel levels. Russell was 30 seconds behind after pitting with 10 laps to go and had overheating issues.
Random prediction for Monaco - Leclerc. He hasn't finished his 5 times that he's raced (3 in F1). Ferrari to get pole and control race.
Qualifying will be the race.
Qualifying will be the race.
Oh yeah Leclerc is the favourite by a country mile for Monaco. Ferrari have the one lap pace nailed and that's what matters here. Looks like I'm not even going to be able to watch the race since I'm off to pick up an Aprilia RSV Mille with my brother but I don't expect to miss much.
Yeah me too, I will be at a nearby town but I think I will make it back home with my M5 Competition.
Fair enough, my bias towards monaco (hate the place
A Mercedes win. My random prediction