Crashoutcassius
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Sorry the last sentence wasn't clear. My view is today was the managers fault. We have a team that shouldn't get thrashed by Brentford on paper. But Neville always has an agenda which he bends around results
Sorry the last sentence wasn't clear. My view is today was the managers fault. We have a team that shouldn't get thrashed by Brentford on paper. But Neville always has an agenda which he bends around results
In all honestly he isn't wrong. The focus should be on the Glazers, and the club is currently rotten. We've hired different managers and signed different players, and it won't make any difference if we keep repeating the same criticism after every game. The Glazers are the problem, and they shouldn't be left out of the conversation.
Here's the video of the rant.
(Let's be clear that of course Jamie Redknapp is by far a much bigger idiot than Neville, but Redknapp is just a clown whom noone takes seriously anyway, so he's not our concern here)
Neville, in his minutes long rant, uses the words "complete inability to bring players in", "really desperate", "no leadership", "failing miserably", "decrepid, rotting stadium", "football club where they haven't got a clue", "not appointing a sporting director" (yeah....), "the club is rotten", "it's painful and it's woeful", a "toxic culture and atmosphere created at the club since 10 years"
It's the post match analysis of the second game under a promising new manager.
The second game.
It's not a discussion about the Glazers or the club's recent history, or a discussion about the stadium. It's the reaction to the second game under a new manager. Well, congratulations. The guy is a massive, massive problem. Ruud Gulllit is right.
You can insult me all you want
Come on Hansi, there's no way you believe thatIt might be even more important than ousting the Glazers from the ownership of Man United to oust Gary Neville from commenting and punditry on Man United.
The guy and his impact on the perception of Man United is a serious, serious problem for any progress of your club.
He can be annoying but ultimately he's just a commentator. Granted with more power to affect the fans. So this is silly.It might be even more important than ousting the Glazers from the ownership of Man United to oust Gary Neville from commenting and punditry on Man United.
The guy and his impact on the perception of Man United is a serious, serious problem for any progress of your club.
Redknapp seems to be one of those pundits who just resorts to "Well the players have to do better" and gets confused and frustrated if anything else is brought up.Sorry I'm confused. What is the problem here? I can't understand why any United fan would have a problem with what Neville said after the game. He wasn't given the players a pass (despite Redknapp implying he was); he was acknowledging the players aren't good enough and saying the owners need to take responsibility for that.
Still in Souness's backpocketRedknapp seems to be one of those pundits who just resorts to "Well the players have to do better" and gets confused and frustrated if anything else is brought up.
Would like to see your reactions after you have been drab for a decade and are in relegation form (if we take the last few games of last season). Would you be saying this if any of your ex-legends then come out and slam the management which has led to your decline.
Here's the video of the rant.
(Let's be clear that of course Jamie Redknapp is by far a much bigger idiot than Neville, but Redknapp is just a clown whom noone takes seriously anyway, so he's not our concern here)
Neville, in his minutes long rant, uses the words "complete inability to bring players in", "really desperate", "no leadership", "failing miserably", "decrepid, rotting stadium", "football club where they haven't got a clue", "not appointing a sporting director" (yeah....), "the club is rotten", "it's painful and it's woeful", a "toxic culture and atmosphere created at the club since 10 years"
It's the post match analysis of the second game under a promising new manager.
The second game.
It's not a discussion about the Glazers or the club's recent history, or a discussion about the stadium. It's the reaction to the second game under a new manager. Well, congratulations. The guy is a massive, massive problem. Ruud Gulllit is right.
He's correct about all of that. All United fans know these things are true. It has nothing to with two games or 28 games in.
Here's the video of the rant.
(Let's be clear that of course Jamie Redknapp is by far a much bigger idiot than Neville, but Redknapp is just a clown whom noone takes seriously anyway, so he's not our concern here)
Neville, in his minutes long rant, uses the words "complete inability to bring players in", "really desperate", "no leadership", "failing miserably", "decrepid, rotting stadium", "football club where they haven't got a clue", "not appointing a sporting director" (yeah....), "the club is rotten", "it's painful and it's woeful", a "toxic culture and atmosphere created at the club since 10 years"
It's the post match analysis of the second game under a promising new manager.
The second game.
It's not a discussion about the Glazers or the club's recent history, or a discussion about the stadium. It's the reaction to the second game under a new manager. Well, congratulations. The guy is a massive, massive problem. Ruud Gulllit is right.
He is dead rightHe's correct about all of that. All United fans know these things are true. It has nothing to with two games or 28 games in.
I've disagreed with a lot of what Neville has said over the years buy you'd have to clueless as a United fan not to know the extent of our problems from an administrative point of view. We are simply a terribly run football club.
This is the moment when the Glazers have to realize (if they haven't done so already) that such modus operandi without using their own money is just not sustainable, especially when they own 2 sports franchises. Either they start investing themselves properly or they sell one of the franchises; they can no longer go on as they have done so far.Neville dropping a lot of uncomfortable but necessary truth bombs here. The most ominous bit being that the club only have about 50m in cashflow, which if true, is going to be a problem going forward.
They aren't selling up for the foreseeable, sorryThis is the moment when the Glazers have to realize (if they haven't done so already) that such modus operandi without using their own money is just not sustainable, especially when they own 2 sports franchises. Either they start investing themselves properly or they sell one of the franchises; they can no longer go on as they have done so far.
They are never putting their own money in, zero chance that ever happens. And not selling anytime soon unless there is a huge and consistent push by fans to get rid of them.This is the moment when the Glazers have to realize (if they haven't done so already) that such modus operandi without using their own money is just not sustainable, especially when they own 2 sports franchises. Either they start investing themselves properly or they sell one of the franchises; they can no longer go on as they have done so far.
Yeah hard not to lose heart reading thatThey are never putting their own money in, zero chance that ever happens. And not selling anything soon unless there is a huge and consistent push by fans to get rid of them.
This is Man Utd now, rotten on and off the pitch with no real hope of change. Only something drastic like a huge fan revolt or relegation will bring any sale forward.Yeah hard not to lose heart reading that
We are close to being not relevant anymoreThis is Man Utd now, rotten on and off the pitch with no real hope of change.
Oh it's a problem alright. There was a point where I thought United would churn along and eventually be put right. But the way the Glazers have run this football I think we're in genuine danger of a more long term collapse than initially thought.Neville dropping a lot of uncomfortable but necessary truth bombs here. The most ominous bit being that the club only have about 50m in cashflow, which if true, is going to be a problem going forward.
An abysmal season and short term pain would be well worth it to get rid of them. Another 5-10 years of their ownership is only going to make everything a lot worse.We are close to being not relevant anymore
What has been done to this club is a crime and is literally not legal anymore. As much as rival fans may be enjoying our demise, part of them must understand deep down that we are genuine victims of a travesty that should never have been allowed to happen. The pillaging of an important institution.The FA are a bunch of cnuts too. They allowed these feckers to buy the club and dump their own debt on it.
There isn’t a lot of money, Arnold admitted that to fans. We’re back into more no value in the market years but without SAF this time. Glazers needed the Super League, revenue has peaked, brand is eroding and cost of borrowing USD has gone through roof.Neville dropping a lot of uncomfortable but necessary truth bombs here. The most ominous bit being that the club only have about 50m in cashflow, which if true, is going to be a problem going forward.
Oh I knew he wasn't a United fan. That's why I was calling out his lack of understanding of our club.He is not a United fan. Actually I think he's here to troll us.
Redknapps rant was so random that I reckon someone in his ear told him to do it.Renknapp just gets worked up about everything. I think he wants to get on the sky sports clips reel but it's so fake and stupid.
Say what you want about them but at least Keane and Sourness have conviction in what they're saying whether you agree or not.
I was horrified when Gary Neville pointed out that all out transfers have been paid for by income generated by the club - the florida feckers have not once put their hands in their own pockets, he said...Which came first?
The Glazers allow these problem players at the club because they know feck all about football and only want more cash in their pockets
we can blame a lot on the manager… but how in worlds name can we blame him that our 200k+ paid diva’s cant pass over 1 fecking meter? None… NONE of the second ball were ours.Sorry the last sentence wasn't clear. My view is today was the managers fault. We have a team that shouldn't get thrashed by Brentford on paper. But Neville always has an agenda which he bends around results
They are the very definition of parasites. Keeping the host just alive enough to keep sucking the life out of us for a prolonged period.I was horrified when Gary Neville pointed out that all out transfers have been paid for by income generated by the club - the florida feckers have not once put their hands in their own pockets, he said...
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.I was horrified when Gary Neville pointed out that all out transfers have been paid for by income generated by the club - the florida feckers have not once put their hands in their own pockets, he said...
well, to me, it seems like times have changed. the other way seems to be working for City and Chelsea, to name but two. Even Forest have signed more players than us...There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
The debt not going down, non football people being appointed, terrible signings, all that I can understand Neville and everyone else being annoyed about.
But a club financing its own trsnsfers? That's how it's supposed to be.