F1 2022 Season

The Firestarter

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Why is Ferrari so quick all of a sudden on a track like this?

So unexpected.
They reduced the wing sizes to eliminate drag but that makes the car slightly more unstable in corners. RB didn't feel the need to do so, I guess they made the calc correct.
 

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Leclerc, Russell, Norris, Verstappen, Ricciardo, Gasly

Is the front 6 by my reckoning.
 

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So thats pole for Leclerc on his own merit.
I got the feeling that Max was not trying that hard.
Its more of a race setup for Max due to the penalties, prioritizing low tire deg here with a bit of more downforce.
 

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Qualifying Top 10
Based on just times, here is the top 10 from Q3
1) Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
2) Max Verstappen, Red Bull
3) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari
4) Sergio Perez, Red Bull
5) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
6) George Russell, Mercedes
7) Lando Norris, McLaren
8) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren
9) Pierre Gasly, Alpha Tauri
10) Fernando Alonso, Alpine
 

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Confusing as feck!
It doesn't make sense, I think they should be applying the bigger penalties first, maybe someone got that wrong.

The fact they haven't even given the corrected grid yet shows Sky dont know, maybe the FIA cant even work it out :lol:
 

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It doesn't make sense, I think they should be applying the bigger penalties first, maybe someone got that wrong.

The fact they haven't even given the corrected grid yet shows Sky dont know, maybe the FIA cant even work it out :lol:
Year to me it makes sense to apply then bottom up rather than top down.
 

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Year to me it makes sense to apply then bottom up rather than top down.
Perez qualified 4th, has a 10 place penalty but I think he'll be starting 10th. So his penalty is almost halved. Seems absurd.

On the plus side De Vries starting 8th. That should be interesting.
 

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Grid for the race

1. Charles Leclerc (FERRARI)

2. George Russell (MERCEDES)

3. Lando Norris (MCLAREN)

4. Max Verstappen (RED BULL)

5. Daniel Ricciardo (MCLAREN)

6. Pierre Gasly (ALPHATAURI)

7. Fernando Alonso (ALPINE)

8. Nyck de Vries (WILLIAMS)

9. Guanyu Zhou (ALFA ROMEO)

10. Sergio Perez (RED BULL)

11. Nicholas Latifi (WILLIAMS)

12. Esteban Ocon (ALPINE)

13. Sebastian Vettel (ASTON MARTIN)

14. Lance Stroll (ASTON MARTIN)

15. Valtteri Bottas (ALFA ROMEO)

16. Kevin Magnussen (HAAS)

17. Mick Schumacher (HAAS)

18. Carlos Sainz (FERRARI)

19. Lewis Hamilton (MERCEDES)

20. Yuki Tsunoda (ALPHATAURI)
 

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Grid for the race

1. Charles Leclerc (FERRARI)

2. George Russell (MERCEDES)

3. Lando Norris (MCLAREN)

4. Max Verstappen (RED BULL)

5. Daniel Ricciardo (MCLAREN)

6. Pierre Gasly (ALPHATAURI)

7. Fernando Alonso (ALPINE)

8. Nyck de Vries (WILLIAMS)

9. Guanyu Zhou (ALFA ROMEO)

10. Sergio Perez (RED BULL)

11. Nicholas Latifi (WILLIAMS)

12. Esteban Ocon (ALPINE)

13. Sebastian Vettel (ASTON MARTIN)

14. Lance Stroll (ASTON MARTIN)

15. Valtteri Bottas (ALFA ROMEO)

16. Kevin Magnussen (HAAS)

17. Mick Schumacher (HAAS)

18. Carlos Sainz (FERRARI)

19. Lewis Hamilton (MERCEDES)

20. Yuki Tsunoda (ALPHATAURI)
I get that the system is ridiculous when you have that many dropping but 5 places becoming 2 for Max while 10 becoming 6 for Perez doesn't exactly seem fair.
 

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Weird he thinks he can just mess up and not apologise, no? Totally unaccountable.
Too much of this slowly creeping into society. I remember a time when people held themselves accountable for their actions, and quite rightly held their hands up when they made a mistake. I'm sure when he reflects on this, he will come out and issue a statement.
 

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Too much of this slowly creeping into society. I remember a time when people held themselves accountable for their actions, and quite rightly held their hands up when they made a mistake. I'm sure when he reflects on this, he will come out and issue a statement.
Too late. I'm already tweeting up a storm. Sign my change.org petition please. Enough of these "mistakes". He's got to go.
 

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Russell should have a quiet race for a while once Max sails past. Will be looking forward to seeing if he can hold off Sainz and Perez later on, not expecting so on this track even if race pace is better.
 

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Watching that Leclerc's pole, are we ignoring purpoising now when it's not affecting you-know-who?

Ferraris are bouncing like crazy on literally every track this season, and I am not sure we've read once Sainz and Leclerc complaining and making big deal out of it.
 

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TIL DeVries is actually 27 :wenger:
Isn't he supposed to be quite good? Won the Formula E last year and the F2 in 2019. I think I read a while ago that he's unlikely to make it in F1 either way, as he doesn't have a lot of financial muscle behind him. (And probably also isn't that great.)
 

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Isn't he supposed to be quite good? Won the Formula E last year and the F2 in 2019. I think I read a while ago that he's unlikely to make it in F1 either way, as he doesn't have a lot of financial muscle behind him. (And probably also isn't that great.)
I think Merc kept him on the shelf for far too long.
 

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TIL DeVries is actually 27 :wenger:
Uses to be common back 30 years ago to get into f1 around that age. However i agree i think he may have missed his f1 window, unless williams dump the hapless latifi. Many motorsports outside f1 where you can make a name for yourself and good career money.