Nothing to add but I just wanted to say this is a strong post.I have to thank @2cents for this post:
because it makes for fascinating reading and eloquently explains the relatively recent origins of all of this pomp and ceremony that so many of you are moaning about. I highly recommend that you make the effort to read the extract as it also gives us some insights into why the monarchy has been able to survive in its present form for over a century.
I've been in London a few months now and have been able to experience these historic events and like many of you have questioned the need for a monarchy in this day and age. With so many problems facing us, the idea of a fabulously wealthy dynasty swanning about in limousines cutting ribbons and being bowed to does seem daft and indefensible given the problems facing some of us to even heat our homes and feed our families. But that mostly boils down to money issues that I think will be dealt with in the coming years anyway. Charles seems to want to trim the fat in many ways and I think he realizes that their wealth has to be addressed. I don't see him being bothered with breeding horses so that will all go, and he's got a history of managing crown property in a more business-like fashion and I think he'll look at giving back some of the land and palaces. The government could easily pay for the needs of the less well-off if it chose to do so anyway, it isn't the fault of the Windsors that we have a shower of cnuts in power who care so little about the poor. Selling the Crown Jewels to try and pay heating bills would be a daft decision of short-termism that we would surely regret.
But, going back to the need for the Monarchy, I was struck by one particular passage in the above link where the author talked about the void left in Europe after most other nations got rid of their royals and aristocratic dynasties. Like it or not the Queen was a living embodiment of the national identity and it's clear from the response to her death that many of us still find that very important. In these times we need that stable, seemingly incorruptible figurehead with the world going to hell around us. Our political leaders are awful, not a single inspirational figure among them. They can't be trusted in anything they say or promise and we all know that they seek only to enrich themselves and their cronies. So in the extract, the quote is referring to Hitler and says' if we drop the trappings of monarchy in the gutter..., Germany has taught us some guttersnipe will pick them up'. It seems to be saying that if we dispense with the monarchy and all the archaic rituals, dress and ceremony that go along with it, some elected or unelected politician will happily come along and make up a whole bunch of new ones to exploit the void that would be left in order to exploit the people's need for an absolute leader who embodies national ideals and aspirations. As we know in Hitler's case it turned out horrifically and you may think that it could never happen here. But just look at America and what Trump did in a short space of time, Putin declaring himself leader for life, Italy becoming fascist, Bolsonaro...the list goes on. I'm quite certain that Boris Johnson would have acted as Trump did with demanding personal adulation and unflinching loyalty if he could have gotten away with it, seeking grand parades in his honour and suchlike. But the Queen always stood there, silently in the background, providing a check on the power of every Prime Minister. I can pretty much guarantee that every soldier, sailor and airman/woman that you saw yesterday, if ordered by the Queen to march on Parliament and arrest the government would have done so without hesitation...that's the kind of power that she silently wielded. The same power that she had over most Britons who looked to her as being above politics and simply representing us but all the while shrewdly adapting to the changing times over the course of her long reign. If we lose that we lose a big part of our shared identity and the danger of some unscrupulous politician coming along and exploiting that need to coalesce around something scares me. I think Charles still has the strength to resist and commands enough respect to remain somewhat significant in national politics, but William will be the one they eventually target. I even think the loudest voices for abolishing the monarchy will come from the right since they now solely represent corporations, landowners and other moneyed interests who want unquestioning consumers loyal only to brands rather than a King.
I've seen how bad things get after 20 years in the USA. Everything decided along political lines and an inability to agree on anything. Dumbification, drowning in cheap consumer crap designed to pacify, people being fed food laced with legal poison to ensure that a monetized health service gets more and more money, for-profit education that makes people stupider and maintains the supply of service workers who toil while the true wealth goes to the select few. Britain is heading that way already and the loss of the monarchy will only speed that up. Yes it needs to be streamlined, yes we need to get rid of a lot of the bowing and scraping, but we do need them to maintain the status quo and prevent runaway political power from dragging us irreversibly to the right. Cromwell's Parliament came about to represent the needs of the common man against the excesses of aristocratic privilege, nowadays I genuinely believe that the Royal Family cares more about ordinary people than anyone in power in Westminster. In return we agree to do the silly bowing and deference, but most of us don't actually believe that they are different from us...we just accept that we all have to play along for the institution to work. If we can all adapt it to function in the modern world then we'll be alright, getting rid of it is dangerous.
Anyway...that's my ramblings on this that you can pick apart as you please.
Ruffled a few feathers?
I don’t give a toss. You've got some weird Kent stating Kim Jong would do over prince Charles in a fight.
You think I'm actually arsed about the monarchy? I'm laughing at you while you're laughing at me.
Yesterday was a funeral and I hope to feck someone turns up at one of your loved ones and pisses in all your drinks.
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To me the royals have always been the embodiment off much of what is wrong with Britain. Our political leaders are awful for the very same reason i.e. that we seem to feel the need to be told what to do by posh privileged idiots despite all of the evidence that they are useless, are only interested in enriching themselves and the top end of town, while actively despising and laughing at us for voting for them (or fawning over them in the case of the Royals).Like it or not the Queen was a living embodiment of the national identity and it's clear from the response to her death that many of us still find that very important.
Deserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.So the upper percentile of piss per go is 400ml. Let's assume that you want at least 50ml in every cup. If 50 people attended this funeral then @MIC_FIN would be hoping for at least 6 rogue urinators present to get the job done.
1) 36 guests receive 10.00ml each, the 37th guest receives 40.00ml.Deserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.
1) Assuming that Redcafe angers @MIC_FIN and he attends your loved ones funeral. There are are 37 guests in attendance, the average bladder capacity of @MIC_FIN is 400ml, assume @MIC_FIN has one attempt before being escorted off the premises, and that all guests are ready to get their drink which is ready at a nearby table. Assume that @MIC_FIN is so bitter and angry that he decides to piss in all guests drinks, how much piss will each drink contain? assume that there's no leakage.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places.
2) After your Grandma tastes @MIC_FIN urine in her lemonade, four of your cousins seize @MIC_FIN near mural to her late husband, before he can destroy it bellowing "LONG LIVE THE KING". The nearest exit is 810m away, assuming your cousins carry @MIC_FIN towards the door at a velocity of 5m^2/s find the time it will take for @MIC_FIN to be escorted off the premises.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places
Royal AscotBorn and bred in England. If some of you lot can't even respect the monarchy you live with, Not under. That's your problem.
Royal Navy
Royal Air force
Royal Army
Why paint this thread with all your jeasous and/or complete toxic comments?
Can always feck off and live in Russia or some shit?
5 m^2/s as in meter squared? Because he is carriered horizontally therefore having an area footprint ? Nice detail mate!Deserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.
1) Assuming that Redcafe angers @MIC_FIN and he attends your loved ones funeral. There are are 37 guests in attendance, the average bladder capacity of @MIC_FIN is 400ml, assume @MIC_FIN has one attempt before being escorted off the premises, and that all guests are ready to get their drink which is ready at a nearby table. Assume that @MIC_FIN is so bitter and angry that he decides to piss in all guests drinks, how much piss will each drink contain? assume that there's no leakage.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places.
2) After your Grandma tastes @MIC_FIN urine in her lemonade, four of your cousins seize @MIC_FIN near mural to her late husband, before he can destroy it bellowing "LONG LIVE THE KING". The nearest exit is 810m away, assuming your cousins carry @MIC_FIN towards the door at a velocity of 5m^2/s find the time it will take for @MIC_FIN to be escorted off the premises.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places
Deserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.
1) Assuming that Redcafe angers @MIC_FIN and he attends your loved ones funeral. There are are 37 guests in attendance, the average bladder capacity of @MIC_FIN is 400ml, assume @MIC_FIN has one attempt before being escorted off the premises, and that all guests are ready to get their drink which is ready at a nearby table. Assume that @MIC_FIN is so bitter and angry that he decides to piss in all guests drinks, how much piss will each drink contain? assume that there's no leakage.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places.
2) After your Grandma tastes @MIC_FIN urine in her lemonade, four of your cousins seize @MIC_FIN near mural to her late husband, before he can destroy it bellowing "LONG LIVE THE KING". The nearest exit is 810m away, assuming your cousins carry @MIC_FIN towards the door at a velocity of 5m^2/s find the time it will take for @MIC_FIN to be escorted off the premises.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places
Agreed. Such problems used to involved trains heading from different directions, towards each other at different speeds or something.I remember these being harder at school.
Yeah, and they crash on the borders of Switzerland, Italy and Austria.Agreed. Such problems used to involved trains heading from different directions, towards each other at different speeds or something.
Fixed.Born inbred in England.
Do we need to factor in his tears while he's pissing? That would surely decrease the quantity of piss required.Deserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.
1) Assuming that Redcafe angers @MIC_FIN and he attends your loved ones funeral. There are are 37 guests in attendance, the average bladder capacity of @MIC_FIN is 400ml, assume @MIC_FIN has one attempt before being escorted off the premises, and that all guests are ready to get their drink which is ready at a nearby table. Assume that @MIC_FIN is so bitter and angry that he decides to piss in all guests drinks, how much piss will each drink contain? assume that there's no leakage.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places.
2) After your Grandma tastes @MIC_FIN urine in her lemonade, four of your cousins seize @MIC_FIN near mural to her late husband, before he can destroy it bellowing "LONG LIVE THE KING". The nearest exit is 810m away, assuming your cousins carry @MIC_FIN towards the door at a velocity of 5m^2/s find the time it will take for @MIC_FIN to be escorted off the premises.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places
I don't know, let's see:You think I'm actually arsed about the monarchy?
Without the monarchy, parliament and such, most of you wouldn't have been born. We wouldn't be living in a free country. Some lax people here taking utter shite.
RIP QE2
Yes, thanks for your approval. HM approves!
Kong live the Ling.
I see the thread overtaken again by people who begrudge other people paying respects to someone they have looked up to all their life. Even enjoying Christmas Dinner with her on the box.
Let them enjoy it I say. Rule Britannia.
Born and bred in England. If some of you lot can't even respect the monarchy you live with, Not under. That's your problem.
Royal Navy
Royal Air force
Royal Army
Why paint this thread with all your jeasous and/or complete toxic comments?
Can always feck off and live in Russia or some shit?
apparently not for some. We're dominated by it.
Tell me who has dominated you recently?
Off to Russia then?
Respect the post, not the poster. I'll back the feck up here. As I already have warnings. You've pissed a few off here today though.
Britain is great, always was. I'll buy you the boat to Korea if you want mate.
Long live the King
It's her husband ffs. Impressively ignorrant, and juvenile.
Stick to your Korean shit. Honestly don't understand why you are constantly posting on this sub forum, you've contributed absolutely feck all positively.
Feckers won't be remembered after 10 weeks. Nevermind 100 years.
Their insecurity at this stage is quite obvious. I don't get how so many people feel threatened. I manage to work full time, have fun on a weekend and generally live a happy life. Why people would want to spend all day winding up other folk is beyond me.
Should just book a 1 way ticket the feck out of here pal. Go join the 'regime'
You won't be missed.
I don't 'idolise' the Queen. I doubt things will ever be the same again in the monarchy after all these years of people being in the public eye.
No matter how hard you try though pal. We'll all just a grain of fecking sand on a massive time scale. Only thing is, the Queen, was more successful than yourself and I. Only you're bitter as feck
Hoisted by his own petard.I don't know, let's see:
Britain is great, always was. I'll buy you the boat to Korea if you want mate.
BrilliantI don't know, let's see:
I enjoyed the Royal Army one, who the feck calls it that?I don't know, let's see:
why do you keep trying to kiss your second cousin?I once nearly kissed a second cousin at a funeral, hadn't ever actually met her before so didn't know who she was and she was banging.
I can nearly guarantee that this happened at the Queen's funeral.
I thing it may the royalist version of the Bundesliga Defense LeagueI enjoyed the Royal Army one, who the feck calls it that?
Maybe he was thinking of the Royal Mail (now privatised)? Or maybe he's rimaldo's other personality?
Because she's banging, cant you read?why do you keep trying to kiss your second cousin?
She was banging, you would do the same in my position for sure.why do you keep trying to kiss your second cousin?
She was banging, you would do the same in my position for sure.
I don't know, let's see:
Royal Ascot
The Royal Opera house
The Royal Bank of Scotland
The Royal Oak pub
The Royal Vauxhall Tavern Gay Caberet club
The Royal Academy of Culinary Arts
Cafe Royal
Joe Royle
Royal by Lourdes
A Royale with Cheese
…Your boys took one hell of a beating!!
Deserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.
1) Assuming that Redcafe angers @MIC_FIN and he attends your loved ones funeral. There are are 37 guests in attendance, the average bladder capacity of @MIC_FIN is 400ml, assume @MIC_FIN has one attempt before being escorted off the premises, and that all guests are ready to get their drink which is ready at a nearby table. Assume that @MIC_FIN is so bitter and angry that he decides to piss in all guests drinks, how much piss will each drink contain? assume that there's no leakage.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places.
2) After your Grandma tastes @MIC_FIN urine in her lemonade, four of your cousins seize @MIC_FIN near mural to her late husband, before he can destroy it bellowing "LONG LIVE THE KING". The nearest exit is 810m away, assuming your cousins carry @MIC_FIN towards the door at a velocity of 5m^2/s find the time it will take for @MIC_FIN to be escorted off the premises.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places
It'd be weirder if this thread was full of gushing comments about how great the queen was and how fun king Charles fingers are. She died weeks ago, I think enough "out of respect" time has passed that more challenging conversations can take place.I’m curious why @The Corinthian has over 80 posts in this thread, @Paul the Wolf over 70 and @Moby over 60.
That’s over 200 posts between three posters who don’t really like England/Britain, dislike The Queen/Monarchy and want to keep calling other people strange and baiting then repeatedly..
Take a look at yourselves.
Now that is weird.
BrilliantDeserves to be put in the next round of GCSE exams really.
1) Assuming that Redcafe angers @MIC_FIN and he attends your loved ones funeral. There are are 37 guests in attendance, the average bladder capacity of @MIC_FIN is 400ml, assume @MIC_FIN has one attempt before being escorted off the premises, and that all guests are ready to get their drink which is ready at a nearby table. Assume that @MIC_FIN is so bitter and angry that he decides to piss in all guests drinks, how much piss will each drink contain? assume that there's no leakage.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places.
2) After your Grandma tastes @MIC_FIN urine in her lemonade, four of your cousins seize @MIC_FIN near mural to her late husband, before he can destroy it bellowing "LONG LIVE THE KING". The nearest exit is 810m away, assuming your cousins carry @MIC_FIN towards the door at a velocity of 5m^2/s find the time it will take for @MIC_FIN to be escorted off the premises.
Give your answer to 2 decimal places
Royal Ascot
The Royal Opera house
The Royal Bank of Scotland
The Royal Oak pub
The Royal Vauxhall Tavern Gay Caberet club
The Royal Academy of Culinary Arts
Cafe Royal
Joe Royle
Royal by Lourdes
A Royale with Cheese
…Your boys took one hell of a beating!!
I’ve missed the posts with the piss reference, what’s that all about?
.Ruffled a few feathers?
I don’t give a toss. You've got some weird Kent stating Kim Jong would do over prince Charles in a fight.
You think I'm actually arsed about the monarchy? I'm laughing at you while you're laughing at me.
Yesterday was a funeral and I hope to feck someone turns up at one of your loved ones and pisses in all your drinks.
Sure. I mean if shouting people down and calling others flag shaggers is challenging and interests people this is the place to be!It'd be weirder if this thread was full of gushing comments about how great the queen was and how fun king Charles fingers are. She died weeks ago, I think enough "out of respect" time has passed that more challenging conversations can take place.
He's got you there @Mr PigeonRuffled a few feathers?
I don’t give a toss. You've got some weird Kent stating Kim Jong would do over prince Charles in a fight.
You think I'm actually arsed about the monarchy? I'm laughing at you while you're laughing at me.
Yesterday was a funeral and I hope to feck someone turns up at one of your loved ones and pisses in all your drinks.
Royal Ascot
The Royal Opera house
The Royal Bank of Scotland
The Royal Oak pub
The Royal Vauxhall Tavern Gay Caberet club
The Royal Academy of Culinary Arts
Cafe Royal
Joe Royle
Royal by Lourdes
A Royale with Cheese
…Your boys took one hell of a beating!!
His names park ji sungWho's the Korean?
Don't ask @The FirestarterWho's the Korean?