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VP89

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I know but come on. If they wanted to sell the club why bother with looking fur investment?

It seems a bit dramatic doesn't it? Like they're either looking to upgrade the dishwasher or sell the house. Do we really think that's on the cards. Or is that just the interpretation we want to believe.

Also "a sale" and "the sale" aren't same thing.
You're being dim if you think they're going to openly put their cards on the table to say we want a full sale only.

Keeping the statement vague helps their negotiations with any buyers. They obviously want to sell entirely.
 

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I know but come on. If they wanted to sell the club why bother with looking fur investment?

It seems a bit dramatic doesn't it? Like they're either looking to upgrade the dishwasher or sell the house. Do we really think that's on the cards. Or is that just the interpretation we want to believe.

Also "a sale" and "the sale" aren't same thing.
Look, I'm a very cynical person by any measure but if you want to measure how real this is - look at the stock price pump. This is not a reaction to a piece of news that means nothing.

Coupled with the options activity a couple of weeks back at results time, it points to inside knowledge, meaning the money men are in on it.
 

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I'm guessing the American owners arent seeing a way to be competitive going forward against the likes of Qatari and Saudi owners, which scares me. The only people who will be competitive vs the likes of them are similarly questionable countries
There's this movement that all billionaires are twats but it's not true. There are normal ones out there. Not to mention there are even rich Saudis/Qataris who don't represent the state. It doesn't have to be like them
 

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or you know they could just spend £50m a year instead sponsoring us? works out just a little cheaper?
You're missing the point. It's all about ego with the billionaires. Bezos is worth 124bn, even if it's not liquid. That's down 70bn from c.200bn in a year from the stock market rout and all this is after his wife took half of it a few years ago.

The guy is on a mission to leave his name in history (hence all the space stuff) and wants a legacy. United would be ideal but he needs to be pointed in the right direction
 

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I understand people wanting Ratcliffe previously on thd basis of anyone being better than Glazers.

Do we still want him now? If so, why? Brexit supporting numpty.
 

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For the same reasons Sky were blocked from buying us.
Conflict of interest with the TV deal?

Was Rupert murdock blocked or sky?

I'm sure bezos could buy us separate of amazon if he really wanted to.
 

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What are the chances the result of these "strategic explorations to ensure growth" will be a raise in ticket prices rather than a sale of the club?
 

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I think they don’t want to miss out on the potential Liverpool new owners/consortium.

Can’t be many folks around willing to spunk £5bn on a football club with huge investment in its infrastructure required.
 

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Of course they can sell it with the debt as it is, in fact it is the least complicated option.

This all gets factored into the valuation, and is the difference between Equity Value (when you subtract the debt and add any cash to your valuation) and Enterprise Value (valuation considering no debt and no cash).
Didn’t know that. Hope 6billion includes the debt in that case.
 

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Forbes tonight broke the exclusive story that a three-way consortium of Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, and Phil Jones are leading the race to purchase Manchester United.
 

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The Jets have been largely mediocre and not so long ago they were fairly good. Your point would have been correct if you were talking about Jaguars or the Lions.
Jets haven’t won their division since 2002 so not sure I would consider that not too long ago. The Broncos lost the best owner in football a couple years ago and are now owned by Waltons. I think that makes every CO sports team other than the Rockies bought with WalMart money.… and so far the only Championship we have enjoyed is with the Avs and that’s the team they don’t give a shit about, had to take them in order to get the Nuggets.

I just hope United get an owner with more the mentality of Bowlen and less Kronke… but that’s rare nowadays, sports teams seam to be thought of more an ATM machine than a passion.
 

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it's crazy how many people on here happily throw Elon Musks name into the ring. Have you people been living under a rock lately? Not that I'd be surprised if the lunatic woke up one day thinking "you know what, I should ruin a big football club too!", but the fact there's United fans hoping he does just boggles the mind.
 

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it's crazy how many people on here happily throw Elon Musks name into the ring. Have you people been living under a rock lately? Not that I'd be surprised if the lunatic woke up one day thinking "you know what, I should ruin a big football club too!", but the fact there's United fans hoping he does just boggles the mind.
Just like Ronaldo, Musk has his own fanboys. So some of the posts are actually serious.
 

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Having read that I've decided on Julia Koch & family. Just so that when things go tits up, we can say Kochs Out
:lol:

You're being dim if you think they're going to openly put their cards on the table to say we want a full sale only.

Keeping the statement vague helps their negotiations with any buyers. They obviously want to sell entirely.
Yes beginning a bartering by admitting you're desperate to get out would do wonders for the sale's value. :lol:
 

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Let's just hope we don't sell our soul completely. It's been bad enough with the Glazers, I would prefer not to have Oil Money. I'm hoping beyond hope that Ratcliffe pulls it off.
 

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I don't know but this kinda feels like a Brexit moment to me. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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Just to complete the circe of irony, maybe they will sell to Murdoch.
 

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Scenes when Ronaldo buys the club.

On a serious note, the two biggest clubs in England are apparently up for sale. Perhaps it's a good time for some proper governance by the British govt to be carried out into who exactly are buying them.
 

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Great idea, his takeover of twitter is going swimmingly.
Not even a fan of Musk but people on here keep doing this thing of finding one slight and hammering on it while conveniently forgetting that he has several successful businesses and definitely knows more about running a company than the most of us. Even if you’re not a fan of his persona, man is super successful so you’d think he’d get the benefit of the doubt.
 

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The signs were there with the additional spend in the summer I suppose. It wasn't the kind of thing the Glazers were going to maintain themselves.
 

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This was coming. The Glazers don't really know how to run a football club. Once Ferguson (as the manager) and David Gill were gone, the decline in the footballing side of things was quick and shocking.

The investor/purchaser will know that a large investment into the first team is still required. Assume that this will be reflected in the purchase price. IMO, you don't go out to buy a club like United planning to run it on a shoestring budget.

The potential of an oil money bid makes me apprehensive. But maybe these are the times we're living in and I should get on with them.

IMO, this is a huge risk for the fans. A bad owner could really derail us - downside risk. On the other hand, an owner who understands the realities and technicalities of running a football franchise could really hit things out of the park - upside risk. Before ETH, I would have been down with tearing as much as possible into the ground - because everything about the club was just run so poorly. But now, I'm a bit less sure of how to assess these risks.

Can't help but feel that Ronaldo being gone is a positive for this process - fewer distractions and risks to consider for the potential buyer.
 
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