Obviously it’s a lot of investors with different risk profile. But take a good look at the best ones in the game and you find out they invest as safe and sound as possible. It’s not even worth discussing.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Funny seeing people backtrack and trying to justify state ownership.
feck that shit.. absolutely not ok.
Not that the club will miss me... I'm irrelevant and I know that.. but I'm not going to sit and pretend its all good and be fine with it.
feck that shit.. absolutely not ok.
Not that the club will miss me... I'm irrelevant and I know that.. but I'm not going to sit and pretend its all good and be fine with it.
So a major investor, who can spend $6bn comes in and is so infatuated by the club, has no ulterior motive other than the success of Manchester United.
You’re in dreamland. No such person exists.
Huh! When did I say the owner would not have an ulterior motive?
No chance.
Let's not forget the ETH was being lined up as Peps replacement. Or so we were led to believe.
That and there aren't really any big name managers about these days
You said
I asked what their primary target would be and you said
And I said that no person exists who can afford to buy Manchester United whose primary target would be making Manchester United the best, both on and off the field.
Well that’s a different thing altogether..
Also not necessarily true either, as some of the best investors have famously made contrarian and high risk moves
but yeah it’s not worth discussing
Glad to see the usual "everyone is bad" argument being spouted again.
Indeed. It doesn't matter which country it is, it's all a crapshoot. As @diarm said in that excellent post on the previous page, once nation states get involved, it completely devalues the achievements of the club and ultimately serves to undermine the whole sport. A thousand titles under Saudi ownership wouldn't be worth a single one of the Premier League titles we won in Sir Alex's time.
I for one welcome our Arab overlords, if they build us a world class stadium and get us top class talents like Gvardiol, Bellingham and Mbappe and knock City off their perch, they can impose shariah law at Old Trafford for all I care 
These guys would show up to a murder trial and go on about how the great-grandfather of one of the jury punched someone in the face during a bar brawl a hundred years ago so really, is he in a position to judge anyone?
Bravo!
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Where in any of the stuff that you quoted me, did I say that there would be no other motive? I said their PRIMARY motive would be...
I think if we end up owned by a state then it will be very hard to look myself in the mirror and still support the club.
Get rid of all the mirrors in your house. Problem solved.
I'll always be a United fan I'll be a damned lier if I said I wouldn't revel in every single title win but this does feel sad, especially considering the abuse we (rightfully) hurled at city.
On the bright side Qataris are preferable to ksa and Emirates but that's not saying much.
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City were literally a nothing club. We've been held back. All we want is someone to let us flourish. For me, it's a little different.
Speak for yourself, I never had a problem with City having rich owners. Back in the 90's we were on the verge of being taken over by Murdoch's bskyb and most people would loved it since we'd have had a monopoly over all clubs finacially
I'll always be a United fan I'll be a damned lier if I said I wouldn't revel in every single title win but this does feel sad, especially considered the abuse we (rightfully) hurled at city.
On the bright side Qataris are preferable to ksa and Emirates but that's not saying much.
There are no saints/priests who will take over United, every single billionaire is dodgy. If anyone is getting their knickers in a twist over a potential saudi/qatar takeover, then they need to stop watching football or sport in general and go support a church
When we get 700 million to spend in the transfer window, and we can buy who we want when we want there isn't gonna be any tears or complaints.
Always wondered why the likes of adidas didn’t get into owning a big club, the advertising opportunities would be immense
Yeah, I have to agree with this. I'm not sure I've ever complained about how City were oil money. No doubt someone will clip me on this.
The Glazers have undone all the hard work that got us to the pinnacle.
To be honest when it comes down to it football ownerships is just not that profitable not to mention the steep initial cost.
Sure it's a relatively stable and constant revenue stream but other than that you'll probably be better off doing other things, like buying up land.
Well I always held that against them and in my view it tainted their success so personally it will hurt me.
Murdoch was and is a single rich person, he's not a sovereign state disguised as a investing company , we would have still had to rely on our own financial merits not oil money.
United's current ethos are founded mostly on the back of 2 glorious spells by 2 Scottish man built upon trusting youth and prevailing through hardships and I know those eras are long gone but buying up success just feels wrong.
I'm gonna celebrate like a mad man if we win the CL again but that thought will always be on the back of my mind, that our victories are no longer legit.
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So you'd rather have a penny pinching fan owner just to help you sleep at night and gloat to rival fans that the owner of the club is pure, while we get left behind our rivals who have state funded owners?
I really don't care how they're disguised their status. I'm sure if you did a background check on any self made billionaire, you'd quite a few black marks and dodgy dealings against their name.
As a hardcore boxing fan, in recent years there are a few boxers who now have their fights hosted in Saudi with promotion and event paid by Saudi money. Rarely do you see boxing fans hold it against a boxer because they took Saudi money. This is a business and sport, whenever that's mixed together there is always going to be some level of corruption and back hand deals
It's not great but at the same time I kind of see the football club as something separate to ownership. The fans make it what it is at the end of the day. I'll still be there supporting!
OK. Semantics.
Give me one example of the 8 billion people in the world who can afford to buy Manchester United and would be doing it with their primary objective being to success on and off the field for Manchester United.
Most of us are just going to pretend to stay on our high horses and whine about our deplorable new (hopefully) owners (hopefully fecking oil rich) but jump into the transfer forum to muppet about our new record breaking super signing funded by our very rich owners at the ready. I know I am.
ExactlyWhen Mbappe is holding up the no 7 shirt fully kitted up, there are going to be only tears of joy.
Won't even bother pretending. Bring on the sweet petrol dollars!
There's no money to be made. Divident is what? 20m for the whole exec? Which is chump change for Adidas. They spent that much putting advertisement on super bowl alone
United net income is shit, for a 5bn worth of investment. What the glazer gets is the asset growth. Yearly income cant cover the lavish spending of 300m per year.
No non oil club running independent from money injection can cover 200m per year.
So what we're aiming is impossible. We're a big club but we're not 200m/year every year big
Objective - The defined goals to be achieved by the organisation.
I don't know anyone personally who has that kind of money and what their overall reasoning would be in buying the club. However, going back to my original point, " being bought by an organisation that their primary target isn't earning money, but allowing the club to flourish to its full potential", is what I stand by and not too sure what is difficult to understand about this statement?
I ratherbwe could be self sustainable ( and it is certainly possible considering our profits) but you're right somewhere, perhaps I'm being to naive with regards to footballs new "realities".
I'm love boxing too, but I think there's a distinction, boxers are individuals while clubs are institutions, i never begrudge a boxers for getting paid what he's worth but financial doping to achieve success leaves an unsavory tase in my mouth.
In the ned there are not that many who are capable of acquiring us, so I guess I have to live with it.
Please let us get a big boss from the Middle East...we are so far behind right now that even Darren Fletcher is sending his kids to the City Academy!
I would find the shariah law bit a step too far, but if they just wanted to stick the name of their airline on things I would consider it well worth the cash.I for one welcome our Arab overlords, if they build us a world class stadium and get us top class talents like Gvardiol, Bellingham and Mbappe and knock City off their perch, they can impose shariah law at Old Trafford for all I care
The amount of giddiness over being potentially bought by oil money is disturbing, to say the least
Who do you want to buy us?
You say that but I have yet to come across many Newcastle fans that aren’t enjoying life under state ownership better than under Mike Ashley (their ‘Glazers’). Once Mbappe et al step out onto the Etihad pitch (OT being rebuilt) in a red jersey you’ll soon get over it.
What qualifies as disturbing is a matter of perspective.
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