World class? 
Was bang average. Like most of the England players in fairness. I'd probably have Maguire MotM
Was bang average. Like most of the England players in fairness. I'd probably have Maguire MotM
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 47
- Clean sheets
- 21
- Goals
- 2
- Assists
- 7
- Yellow cards
- 11
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England's best player aside from Maguire but that's not really saying much.
World class?
Was bang average. Like most of the England players in fairness. I'd probably have Maguire MotM
Don't agree with you on that, was probably England's most progressive player. Maguire was excellent though, and would be my MOTM.
Doesn't get enough credit. He is a quality player when he is confident and pretty much one of England's best players consistently. Even for us he has become pretty much undroppable
Football just looks effortless for him when he's on it
Ten Hag is the perfect manager for him as well... will keep him on his toes 24/7
Ten Hag is the perfect manager for him as well... will keep him on his toes 24/7
Quietly having a really good tournament. When he wants to be, he is arguably the world's best left back.
He’s been brilliant so far. My worry is the last time he was an absolute beast in a major tournament he fell of a cliff at club level 
Absolute Rolls Royce of a footballer.
First time I've ever seen his touch let him down, for that chance in the first half
When he’s good, he’s out of this world.
Sadly, hasn’t shown the commitment in the past to keep that up and is quite lazy.
Sadly, hasn’t shown the commitment in the past to keep that up and is quite lazy.
He's so getting carded against Dembele
It will be a fascinating duel for sure, can't wait.
It will be a fascinating duel for sure, can't wait.
Yes, what was that about? It was an easy pass to deal with, maybe the nerves got the better of him as the goal was gaping. Normally he plucks the ball out of the air from high altitude like Zidane.
Has had a good world Cup, sad for him but glad he comes back healthy.
About as heavy, turns like one as well.
Thought he was one of our best players again tonight.
Yeah, my thinking as well.
Insulting another member
You are an idiot.
Likewise
Thought he was poor in the first half, grew into the game though.
Did well to create chance for Saka but several other crosses were poor. Beaten in the air by Dembele for Giroud's big chance that was saved, just before they scored their 2nd. There was a moment in the 2nd half with the score 1-1 that Shaw seemed slow to react to the ball coming to him inside France's penalty area.
Crossing was poor today
When he's fit and in the groove he is as good as any left back in world football IMO, the guy's a tank and technically very good. Does that make him world class? Dunno, but he is one of our best players (when fit and in shape).
Definitely world class. Is perfect? no.... but when he's in the mood he doesn't really have a weakness.
You can say sometimes he's a bit slow at tracking back and he doesn't overlap quite as much as I wish he did, but in possession I don't think there's anybody better.
He's press resistant, fantastic control and sees a pass as good as anybody. When he doesn't play for United we really miss him IMO.
Played 2 less games than most of the other players on that list
Man Utd 3:0 Nottingham Forest
LB, CB, whatever, he's a supreme footballer.
He's our 3rd best defender.
As long as we don't have anything to disprove it, he's probably also our 2nd best midfielder.
As long as we don't have anything to disprove it, he's probably also our 2nd best midfielder.
He made Forest's attack look ordinary tonight
That was just Martinez wearing 3 t-shirts under his kit, wasn't it?
Excellent performance. I love how good his touch is, he never makes a mistake.
You'd think he's being playing centre back all his career!
1st choice LB, 2nd choice LCB seems about right. We are far more balanced with malacia and him at LCB than playing a right footer at LCB next to Varane if no Martinez.
He's probably our 3rd best striker.
Excellent display.
Great performance, when he can stay fit, he is world class.
He's maturing into Silvestre type alternative for CB.
Wowzers.
Wowzers.
His first touch and technique are world class, hopefully he can stay fit.
He has a strong argument to be seen as our best player, by that I mean as a pure footballer, technically he is exceptional, among the very elite in the game.
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