This is the only way I'd accept Qatari owners.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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We can only hope that it is true. But i wouldn't rule out others. Especially Jim and his investors.
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That last paragraph (apart from maybe anti LGBT) could easily be said for the 'greedy capitalist pigs' mentioned in relation with the sale of the club. For some reason that is accepted in the Western world and pretty much never comes under heavy scrutiny.
I think people also have to accept that we are not Newcastle or City. Perhaps ‘unfortunately’ for some, I don’t know - but a United with cleared debts and just ‘spending its own money’ can still easily spend hundreds of million every summer. We are objectively rich. We have the biggest revenues in the country quite comfortably. And with some success, we will only earn more money legitimately.
Some fans seem to be scared by our size. This is Manchester United, people want some plucky underdog tale but the reality is that will not be our story. It’s only become our story by the unnatural means of genuinely irrelevant clubs spending loads of money. This Mbappe ‘fear’ that everyone seems to have doesn’t ring with me because we are simply one of the few clubs in the world that should be able to afford Mbappe and could have bought him regardless. When he went to Paris for 166m, we could probably have signed him then if he had wanted to join.
No thanks to Jim.
Go Jim, Go!!!
You'd really rather be owned by the Qatari state? Why?
Tbh, I’m struggling with the thought of Jim pulling it off, and I’m sure things will never be the same after he does
Absolutely. Reasons are obvious really. We also aren’t defined by our ownership. The identity and soul of the club is already set in stone.
Why are the reasons obvious? I'm curious because to me the argument for Radcliffe over Qatar is obvious too.
Sold Trafford.
If you looked into how Jim plans to buy us you wouldn’t. With Qatar we will have ownership with a strong desire to win and we won’t be saddled with more debt repayments or people who want their money back (JP Morgan, Goldman).
slim sliver of hope to cling onto at this point
Different Emirate. Don't see Dubai buying a PL club at the moment.
Easily. I’d honestly stop if that rat cnut conspiracy feck bought the club.
Which sponsors? Have you seen any reports of sponsors jumping ship from clubs connected with GCC state investment? The reason I am asking is that sentiment feels way overblown. Emirates (Dubai) have been sponsoring Arsenal and the FA Cup for years. Did PSG lose any sponsors because of QSI ownership?
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Businesses do not think about such stuff. They think about profits. For them to jump ship, they need to be forced by some other force. Like a govt or something.
By now I have forgotten what it was called.
I'd say I struggle to see the massive difference in being owned by Qatar or JP Morgan Chase/Goldman Sachs with Jim from a morally point of view. The US companies can continue to destroy lives but it's ok because it's such a great place to work apparently.
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From Alex Crook.
Here comes Ben Jacobs with his wannabe-Romano impression again.
It's not a fear, it's more that I don't want to be a team that tries to become Galactico FC. You get 0 attachment to the players. You become a squad of mercenaries. Actually winning when you do simply doesn't hit as good as when you build your way there properly.
And yeah, United can spend a feck ton without ME owners which is why I'm very comfortable with 0 playing squad investment from any new owners. They just need to be smart with how they run the club, who is in charge where, etc. The only parts that need investment are the neglected bits. The debt. The facilities. It's a significant cost in itself of course, and playing squad spending is minute compared to that anyway.
I'll look forward to a revamped Carrington.
Total bluffer. I believe this though. I can’t see it being QIA directly.
I agree with this. We don’t need Galactico like investment but I do want proactive, aggressive investment when it’s needed. This past summer was an example. Yes, we spent a lot, but it needed at least 3 more and that’s what they’d be able to do. It always feels like we always stop short of what is truly necessary.
Well if Musk is serious about buying us he would wait till the very last second before bidding then just double what anyone else is offering.
What that done of course he would fire fifty percent of all staff and fine any player not driving a Tesla.
Come his first match will insist of calling the coin toss before taking his seat beside Ten Hag to tweet all instructions given and take polls on substitutions
I for one welcome it
I'm ok with not addressing every need in one go. Clubs should have to prioritize needs, build over time. United is able to be strong in the transfer market and with wages without owner investment. We just have to be not hamstrung by crippling debt, we need to get our facilities back up to being the best in class, and then just have smart people in charge and keep the clubs money within it. Past that, any owner investment should be purely infrastructure/community focused. Nothing more. I would hate to have a Boehly situation.
Nah. 4-5 years at most.
This.
Not really happy to be honest. Hopefully they just clear the debt and invest in the facilities using their money. Transfers etc. using the club's ACTUAL sponsors. No dodgy financial doping like city's owners. CBA with huge uefa/PL sanctions hanging over us.
Also keep their dodgy Qatari airways off our kit and don't even think about naming rights for Old Trafford
Also keep their dodgy Qatari airways off our kit and don't even think about naming rights for Old Trafford
I find that fecking weird. Qatar has done a lot worse than engage in conspiracy theories. They used debt slavery to build the World Cup ffs.
Meant to type UAE which Qatar ceded independence from in 1971 (although really they weren't a part of for long if at all)Dubai is part of the UAE. Which is not Qatar
And please dont tell me Al Khalaifi and co ride camels to work?
I think you missed the point of my quote.
I get you, I just meant that we could easily have a team of mercenaries without new owners buying players for us. The prospect of us ‘spending our own money’ is equivalent to that of a sugar daddy anyway, especially with FFP considered. We would sit at the very top of the tree. I get your sentiment for sure, I’m speaking more of something that I’ve noticed amongst reds for many years. This modesty in comparison to our stature. Whenever a truly great player comes onto the market this forum gets into this Real Madrid meltdown where they can’t believe we can attract anyone, and if we grow one, the talk of an ‘inevitability’ of them going to Real.
Just think some of our fans should learn to live in the stature of the club, I get the vibe that we are almost shy of it.
Singapore has two sovereign wealth funds with total values worth over a trillion.$450bn sovereign wealth fund
That's definitely happening, TeamViewer want out so I'll be surprised if Qatar doesn't slap Doha Dave's Car Repair Service on our shirts
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