Its like clockwork, isn't it? Every 4-5 pages someone comes in to make that argument with infallible confidence that they have won the debate with that.
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Thread must have like 2-3 side topics per page that has little to nothing to do with the sale of the club
You are making up things. Everyone knows he is part of royal family.
well I'm foreign, and I too became a Man United fan in 1992 even though United didn't win anything. And I can prove it too. I still have the season review on VHS titled "So near so far".
I’m thinking this info should be pinned to the top of every page now. So many people keep repeating the same thing.Not unless he votes himself off the board.
He is more than 2/3 owner, there are 2 other guys who hold 19 pc each. That’s it. They are a Ltd not a PLC so there are no shares traded on Stock exchanges. INEOS is Jim Ratcliffe, and vice versa.
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The more profound issue is some people embracing electrical car, range, heater, etc do not understand how the big portion is generated from power plants. They just simply believe oil the evil.
The one you bought from Ebay after we started winning? As if we’re going to fall for that buddy.
Even ChatGBT writes a better statement
It wouldn’t be lost, not by a long shot. If it was , it was when American Business moguls bought us on debt to syphon money out every year.
This isn't true, I've had people tell me it's "just a private individual" on here
See my reply to someone telling me it.
Same, I used to go to a fair amount of games, and still make a few every season but nowhere close to the hardcore, who’d I’d quite happily admit are a more significant part of the club than I… And who I certainly think should probably have a greater say than me in things like this (though obviously that’s not how it works) Also, for a lot of those types it’s a completely all encompassing thing - huge expense, organising your entire life around the games, travel,, accommodation, flying out for every Euro away, up and down the county every other week. The idea the fact they might’ve been born nearby means they just plopped out and were given a seat some poor desperate overseas fan would’ve loved - like some kind of weird inverse Daily Mail benefits strawman - is horseshit.
There’s also a strange quasi cultural appropriation angle going on that I don’t even want to attempt to unpack..
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Its not though, questioning the fan “origin” story of a guy trying hide the fact he is using Qatar state/dictatorship money to buy the biggest club in the world for sport washing purpose should be basic sport journalism.
Yeah thats a fair point.
Just because you didn't see any doesn't mean none happened. Read every single post on every single page, have you?
haha, fair enough I can't prove it
I remember I bought it in a store called Macro (I think) on a trip to Aberdeen in Scotland. There was a ferry that sailed between the Faroes and Aberdeen every week. It was only about £60 and I went about 12 times
It's doubled because the club is for sale (after a terrible ownership).
I became a United fan in a season we didn't win anything too -- what's wrong with that? Is this guy saying we're all glory hunters?
Precisely , and what do you think would happen to the share price in a few years if a Super League where to be announced ?
Fair enough. I wonder if there were odds now who would be considered the front runner at present
I think he's saying that when there's no evidence to the contrary, and it's in the benefit of someone who gains greatly from lying, it's right to be highly sceptical of something which is extremely unlikely.
He could be a gloryhunter and still make for a better owner. Don't even entertain whatever line of reasoning is being implied there. Football DNA isn't a real thing when deciding competence. That's how you end up with Ole/Moyes and Maguire at 80m. People like that don't want to learn a thing from our sentiment-motivated mistakes in the post-SAF years.
Good times
AI says otherwise, I didn't know he played for usI havent seen any pics of Rat man in a united shirt yet, have you?
JR hasnt explicitly stated how he would finance any potential takeover, and we know he is speaking to the banks about the takeover. Qatar has explicitly stated how they will be financing the deal and is not through debt.
Why is it extremely unlikely? We came second in 91-92 and won the league in 92-93. Giggs had just broken into the team, there was huge excitment around us. We were hardly bottom feeders that nobody would decide to supported.Incidentally this is the time I started following united, also age 10.
United have fans from all over the world so its hardly unlikely that we'd have many from Qatar. I'd imagine one of the reasons he was chosen as the face of their bid because he is a fan.
The man virtually wants to drag Man Utd into the ground and abandon us,just as he supported Brexit and left them to their fate.
Man Utd were popular in 1992, but Qatar didn't even get Premier League coverage on television for a decade after that. It's phenomenally unlikely that a 10 year old started supporting a club he never watched the year before they started winning, a year which also just happens to match the year a crop of incredibly gifted youngsters won the youth cup and went on to become an important year in the iconography of the club yet there be absolutely no evidence of him ever supporting the club in the 30 years following, never mind in the 90's.
It's technically possible, but it's also exactly the kind of heavy handed attempt at cultural appropriation someone would come up with when trying to win over a sceptical fanbase.
While it does seem like PR, there's no doubt United is pretty popular outside of England. In Asia specifically. So anyone supporting United shouldn't be a surprise.
The same way when SJR said he supported United although he also had Chelsea season ticket, it was also not a surprise. I feel like we shouldn't care too much about the owners supporting the club before they became owners.
Regardless of intent, I think we should be wary of the obvious PR puff pieces that come up. Nick Harris also works for the Mail and he's even questioned their own sources, the ones that had been feeding Keegan (which some have been taking as gospel):
Those speaking on his behalf to this newspaper on Saturday conceded they had never actually met him, don't know whether he is married or has children, and can't say why he started supporting United in 1992, at a point when they hadn't won a league title in 25 years.
It is possible that as a 10-year-old he realised Alex Ferguson was on the brink of turning United into a dominant force over the next two decades and jumped aboard their global fanbase. Those speaking for him could not say how many times he had been to Old Trafford but insist he is a 'genuine' United fan who has been in person to 'many' United matches over the years.
Those speaking on his behalf to this newspaper on Saturday conceded they had never actually met him, don't know whether he is married or has children, and can't say why he started supporting United in 1992, at a point when they hadn't won a league title in 25 years.
It is possible that as a 10-year-old he realised Alex Ferguson was on the brink of turning United into a dominant force over the next two decades and jumped aboard their global fanbase. Those speaking for him could not say how many times he had been to Old Trafford but insist he is a 'genuine' United fan who has been in person to 'many' United matches over the years.
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I was a 30 year old in 1992 and I didn't realize what Fergie was unleashing, and I was a match going red of many years at the time, so I doubt a 10 year old knew, having said that, most of these ME royals were educated in England so it's entirely possible he was watching on TV at the time
The guy has split loyalties so his shirt would be half red and half blueI havent seen any pics of Rat man in a united shirt yet, have you?
As a 40 year old (same age as Jassim) fan from the Far East, I also fell in love with United around the same period when I first saw Ryan Giggs running down the wing in his retro red Adidas kit on tele. I don’t think we were the champions that season were we? So what’s the problem with him falling in love with United that year?
Not really. United were a huge draw around the world long before the Premier League came along. A few years ago I was sharing a table in the Red Cafe with an Iranian man and his son before a game. He was about the same age as me and had been supporting United for about 40 years, so starting probably in the late 70s. I can’t remember what the triggering event was for his supporting United (mine was watching George Best ten years before that) but he had never been to England at that time.
You don't need to watch a team before you begin to support.I had never seen Man Utd play when I was a kid but I supported it.
On the issue of premier league coverage: Your assumption is questionable to me because we used to watch Man Utd and other teams play many years before we had official television coverage in Ghana. The rich and a few well to do people only enjoyed the privilege of watching some foreign matches because they had access to satellite television networks then. And judging by this notion, it's very clear that,as rich as they are,Sheikh Jassim could afford to watch Man Utd in Qatar even before they had official television coverage.
Let's not read too much into when the Sheikh started supporting Man Utd.
I believe what is much more important is his vision for the club.
I don't think he was a Utd fan in 92.
Yeah it’s become pathetic.
BS. United have always been the most popular English team in Africa and Asia. You’ll find Africans who have never been to the U.K. that started supporting United in 50s, 60s, 70s… don’t think they were getting live matches every week.
When he arrived in the U.K. we might not have won the league in over 25 years but we were still the club dominating the news. And that was the year we finished second. A 10 year old would notice that, and between Leeds and United would most likely choose the team that wears “red” because think about most boys favourite colour when they’re that age.
He was probably at Eton or Harrow and liked one player. That’s how most kids end up supporting teams.
Just seen he was educated at Sandhurst so he was likely watching Premier League games just as the rest of us did in 1992.
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I have no interest or reason to debate anyone because I can support whoever I want and won’t even entertain a discussion about whether I’m “right” or “wrong” because it’s nobody’s business. All I did was successfully point out one of many double standards that make your moral high ground imaginary.
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