There is surely no way they’re staying right? I know they don’t give a feck but the atmosphere towards them will be truly toxic if what Ogden is saying happens.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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We'll just have to hound the parasites out even harder if that's the case.
Small dick energy from the Glazer boys.
Now there is a cause we can all get behind!
#feckoffelliot
come on everyone let’s make them know they’re unacceptable.
come on everyone let’s make them know they’re unacceptable.
You’d see protests unlike anything seen in English football before if they tried to weasel out of a sale now, protests like what happened against Liverpool but dialled up to 11. People are done with them.
The glazers are the turd that won't flush.
Oh, for feck’s sake, this news ain’t gonna go over well with my cock.
That would go down well.
The amount of games that would be postponed if the Glazers stayed would be insane. It'd make the Liverpool protests look miniscule
Please no, that's my first name
Was this ‘11th hour’ Elliott thing no coincidence and the plan all along? Would not at all be surprised.
If this happens, I hope my Manchester brothers and sisters will do the right the thing…
We have known about Elliott since Friday. Ogden is a bit late on this one.
Elliott.. our unexpected saviors..
Yeah I was referring to it being an ‘11th hour’ bid as was reported on Friday.
would not be surprised if it happens.
Agree. You can never be bored of winning. Anyhow, it’s naive for anyone to think a Qatari buyout guarantees success. Our spending wouldn’t be much more than what we’ve been doing.
Wonder if they'd be interested in doing a deal with Ratcliffe.
As in: backing him to a degree in a scenario where the price gets pushed up towards the supposed asking price (which Ratcliffe probably isn't keen on matching outright).
Someone on Reddit (I think it was) suggested this (or something like it) as a possible scenario: they set up a company of the sort that owned Milan to buy a certain percentage of the shares, with Ratcliffe being the majority share holder.
No idea how likely something like that would be.
But old Jim reportedly is not keen on matching the supposed asking price, so in theory something like this might appeal to him: he'd end up owning the club, only with a silent partner (of sorts), so to speak.
Depends if people think they are most important or not…..
If Glazers get 5 Billion for the sale they could make more in interest payments than they would take the Elliot management route. Their proposal will not come any cheaper than borrowing from a traditional bank. It's a negotiating tactic. Basically, banks are presently concerned with the debts loaded on the club and its ability to sustain the debt. Hence the Glazers had to put up for sale signs.
The club's worth and its ability to sustain/pay its debts is a different case.
The club's worth and its ability to sustain/pay its debts is a different case.
I don't get how it stacks up, we need £1 billion + for the infrastructure, and then the other Glazers will still want out, so maybe another £1 billion to keep them quiet for a few years. So how are they paying back this £2 billion?
Do Elliot just sit there until they sell up to get a return for a set percentage, or will this debt need servicing by the club? If it's the former then the club is going to have to increase its value by at least 50 % for it to be worth it, if it's the latter then they'd better go into hiding.
Do Elliot just sit there until they sell up to get a return for a set percentage, or will this debt need servicing by the club? If it's the former then the club is going to have to increase its value by at least 50 % for it to be worth it, if it's the latter then they'd better go into hiding.
I think Jason Bourne retired mate
Great. And what was it? 15% interest? If fans were to send one message to the Glazers, it is that we want these feckers out. Bunch of parasites.
Wouldn’t be surprised if INEOS and Qatar immediately made their bids public knowing about Elliot’s interest?
Start building fan support for a full takeover so there’s no turning back.
The Glazers remaining despite the option of full takeover would be untenable for them and ultimately ugly.
Start building fan support for a full takeover so there’s no turning back.
The Glazers remaining despite the option of full takeover would be untenable for them and ultimately ugly.
More likely it’s just trying to get the best price.
They can’t load more debt on the club as it can’t be serviced so any financing is going to involve them diluting their shares or paying the debt themselves.
I don't think so. I was reading older articles and Raine were if I'm not mistaken in contact with 17 potential bidders. These bids are supposed to be private and it's totally possible that the three that we heard directly from just went rogue while the others are quiet about it.
Glazers are definitely not staying. Wouldn't worry about the Elliot story
Also, isn't it typical Glazer hypocrisy to cry about leaks and then immediately leak that they don't have to sell to force others to up their price.
I genuinely detest these people.
I genuinely detest these people.
Do the anti Qatar people prefer Glazers or Qatar? Genuine question?
If the Glazers wanted to stay.... maybe they wouldn't put the club up for sale?
Ogden is just click baiting his ass off.
Ogden is just click baiting his ass off.
Qatar. Purely for the sake of the club because I recognise the Glazers have to go. Any longer and this club will be in serious financial trouble.
Apparently there are NDAs involved. Not sure how that squares up with the statements already released but there you go.
An old guy behind me in the South Stand today was being so racist towards the Qataris and angry towards the singing section. This was after they started singing anti-Glazer songs.
I hope this is not serious post. It's well published that Rat 1 and Rat 2 (aka Avram and Joel) want to keep the club and have been looking for ways to finance a new stadium and pay off their four other siblings who want to cash out.If the Glazers wanted to stay.... maybe they wouldn't put the club up for sale?
Ogden is just click baiting his ass off.
For them, a sale is a no-other-option scenario and this is why it's taken so long to start this process. But there's no guarantee it'll be a full, majority or minority sale.
If you are a shareholder other than Avram and Joel and you are seeing the potential return you are going to get in Qatar or SJR bid, think Elliot wont be able to provide that level of financing to match that. Plus what will Elliot charge for that bid? Providing financing for potential owners is okay but for Glazers to hold on to the power, it doesn’t make financial sense. Typical Ogden bullshit article. He just used the information to make a sensationalist article
That is skin crawling reading
Quite the opposite, I would think.
Can't imagine the Glazers being interested in something like that.
A possible (but probably very unlikely) scenario: their plan is to sell out by increments. In which case they could sell a chunk of shares to these vultures now, and then wait for the value of the remainder to rise.
(I have no idea whether this would make financial sense in any possible scenario - just speculating wildly)
It also squares with the notion they won’t sell unless it’s for “top, top” dollar. That’s what makes this Elliot scenario so concerning. We need to hope Qatar or Sir Jim make the Glazers an offer they can’t refuse.
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