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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Looks like its time for his yearly regression back to awfulness, we cant keep buying new left backs just to get Shaw to perform for a couple of months.
"Stop overrating our players" he screamsHe hasn't won anything, just some Mickey Mouse cups no one gave a shit about. Responding to that by saying he won a couple of League Cups ?
Do you even believe yourself ?
Also you earlier this week
"We're gonna win the quadruple"
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/manchester-united-vs-west-ham-united.475860/post-30230576
Are you ok?Embarrassing performance. Should lock himself for a week in his house and not come out
Not going through the fact you can't recognize humor when it's obvious, the fact that you decided to search through my posts to bring this one from a matchday thread says it all I guess."Stop overrating our players" he screams
Also you earlier this week
"We're gonna win the quadruple"
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/manchester-united-vs-west-ham-united.475860/post-30230576
I reckon he gets dropped after this. All the talk about accountability would be pointless otherwise.
The thing is, I wonder how many others would get dropped as well. We won't have enough players out there next match.
The thing is, I wonder how many others would get dropped as well. We won't have enough players out there next match.
If he drops everyone for being shit in that match it will legit be 11 changes for the next gameI reckon he gets dropped after this. All the talk about accountability would be pointless otherwise.
The thing is, I wonder how many others would get dropped as well. We won't have enough players out there next match.
I did think Shaw was particularly bad though.
Because it's obvious you're an agenda poster particularly in this thread. 1 positive post is all I see in here which says it all. People like you thrive on days like this and I just don't understand it.
A comedy 45 minutes from one of our most reliable players. Everything he did was wrong. Daring the ref to send him off. Hope he's got it out if his system.
No one is forcing you to talk to such an agenda poster, and even making all the efforts to search through his posts in this thread and in general to bring an irrelevant one. Switching the discussion to personal attacks also says everything about you. You have left nothing for me to say. Thank you.
There's quite a few that need dropping after that.I reckon he gets dropped after this. All the talk about accountability would be pointless otherwise.
The thing is, I wonder how many others would get dropped as well. We won't have enough players out there next match.
Saying that he was really really poor today.
Thought he was good in the first half, probably United's best player. Shambles in the second though, but then so was every one else for United.
That’s the thing, isn’t it? He was probably the one players most culpable for that second half collapse. Yet also objectively a very good footballer. Who has been important in a good season for the team so far.
All of which means the hordes of muppets using tonight to make far-reaching conclusions about other players (or the manager) are looking like fools.
He just had a shocker in the 2nd half.
He didn't play well vs Liverpool last season either.
He didn't play well vs Liverpool last season either.
Visibly melted after that uncharacteristic awful pass at the start of the second half.
All of our passing patterns were known to Liverpool, ball out to Shaw, not down the line so inside for a one two. Liverpool are this up.
That's the frustrating issue really, he's always been a very good football player with an outstanding first touch and a brilliant cross on him but he has these absolute meltdowns in him and sometimes it's intensely annoying to see fans big him up as the best 'left back in the world' or 'better than evra' when he's got this type of performance in him and it seems a mental thing.
Players have bad games, that's normal. I've seen occasions where Neville fecked up back passes, Irwin's struggled against Ginola or Evra rampaging up the pitch and completely neglecting his flank, but Shaw just seems to have moments where you see his brain just switch off. I don't even mind the mistake for the second goal, it can happen to anyone, but the 6th goal
Luke, mate, you've had a performance like this at least once a year for the last 3-4 years, if not more often.
Hard to explain? Bollocks
2/10 performance from him. He was piss poor
That second half display from him was the most inept performance from a United player since Bebe vs Wolves. What the feck did he do in the dressing room at half-time, fireball shots?
He was really good first half too
He actually was. I thought he was the best player on the pitch.He was really good first half too
We joke about Fred, but even he's never delivered one half of looking like our best performer away at Anfield followed by one of the worst halves of football any United player has ever played for us. Hard to believe.
Yeah, he’s mentally very fragile. We’ve known that for a while. That’s why he’s had such lengthy spells of poor form. He’s a terrific footballer when his tail is up but he does seem to fall apart when things aren’t going his way. And he’s one of many in this squad that applies to. Which is why the turnaround under ETH was always built on shaky ground. Easy to forget that towards the end of last season many fans wanted the whole squad sold so we could start again.There was good reason for that and ETH still has a battle ahead to get the right mentality throughout the whole squad.That's the frustrating issue really, he's always been a very good football player with an outstanding first touch and a brilliant cross on him but he has these absolute meltdowns in him and sometimes it's intensely annoying to see fans big him up as the best 'left back in the world' or 'better than evra' when he's got this type of performance in him and it seems a mental thing.
Players have bad games, that's normal. I've seen occasions where Neville fecked up back passes, Irwin's struggled against Ginola or Evra rampaging up the pitch and completely neglecting his flank, but Shaw just seems to have moments where you see his brain just switch off. I don't even mind the mistake for the second goal, it can happen to anyone, but the 6th goal
Off day today. Calamitous display.
Yeah he defended well, but also was a good outlet for attacking. And put in another good delivery from outside from a free kick (Shaw territory I call it)
Yeah that’s a fair summary.That's the frustrating issue really, he's always been a very good football player with an outstanding first touch and a brilliant cross on him but he has these absolute meltdowns in him and sometimes it's intensely annoying to see fans big him up as the best 'left back in the world' or 'better than evra' when he's got this type of performance in him and it seems a mental thing.
Players have bad games, that's normal. I've seen occasions where Neville fecked up back passes, Irwin's struggled against Ginola or Evra rampaging up the pitch and completely neglecting his flank, but Shaw just seems to have moments where you see his brain just switch off. I don't even mind the mistake for the second goal, it can happen to anyone, but the 6th goal
Other players were just as bad as him in that second half (Dalot
) but they looked just inept rather than “checked out”. There was something particularly annoying about the way Shaw and Bruno failed to conduct themselves. And yes, we’ve seen it before.That's being generous.
He got one extra for being a man in the interview
I am one of those who's long felt he was underrated and among the best LB in the world.That's the frustrating issue really, he's always been a very good football player with an outstanding first touch and a brilliant cross on him but he has these absolute meltdowns in him and sometimes it's intensely annoying to see fans big him up as the best 'left back in the world' or 'better than evra' when he's got this type of performance in him and it seems a mental thing.
Players have bad games, that's normal. I've seen occasions where Neville fecked up back passes, Irwin's struggled against Ginola or Evra rampaging up the pitch and completely neglecting his flank, but Shaw just seems to have moments where you see his brain just switch off. I don't even mind the mistake for the second goal, it can happen to anyone, but the 6th goal
But this record doesn't reflect well on him. As good a player as Salah is
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Has he had a good game against Saka, Salah and Foden types?
That was braver than the performance put together by the entire team in the second half.
Never started right and just melted following mistake after mistake. Everyone could see he was struggling, except ETH - should have been replaced long before he was.
While he has filled out his potential in many aspect, consistency thus having more great, good games more and more; he's still capable of these kind of nightmare performance. By nightmare I meant look like he doesn't seem to have any idea what to do. Lacking all the basic.
Hopefully he gets his white together and not having another down time period. This season is still long way for us to end in positive side.
Hopefully he gets his white together and not having another down time period. This season is still long way for us to end in positive side.
Ah new manager, new season, same Luke.
I don’t know he can go from the best left back on the planet / PL to that second half display. I know it’s a collective mental collapse but still.
I think that’s the case for much of our teams. People don’t realise but constantly losing by a good margin / overwhelmingly being dominated by rivals has a cascading effect. It’s like PSG’s Cl hurdle or Barcelona and their string of away barterings in Europe. I’m sure once they concede two sub consciously something clicks ‘oh feck…’. And good opponents can smell that.
The flaky Shaw was back hadn't seen him for a while hopefully i won't see him again this season.
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