Wumminator
The Qatar Pounder
Only slightly! They’re expected to overtake us next time. Do you think that is legitimate income?The latest numbers show PSG to be still behind us.
Only slightly! They’re expected to overtake us next time. Do you think that is legitimate income?The latest numbers show PSG to be still behind us.
nah it’s more repetitive than that in hereGroundhog Day
Not if billions are being pumped in to pay for infrastructure that the club itself should be paying for.If the investment is not on Utd’s books, and we are also debt free, we are likely the most self-sufficient club on the planet.
I assumed that's what you meant mate but if someone is paying for a new Stadium etc instead of it being funded from the clubs own profits. Then that isn't the club being self-sufficient in any way, shape or form.I was speaking in terms of buying players etc.
More revenue is more revenue.Only slightly! They’re expected to overtake us next time. Do you think that is legitimate income?
Groundhog half hour!nah it’s more repetitive than that in here
And there’s no Bill Murray to lighten the mood. Reckon some of this lot are secretly in love with each other though. The old treat ‘em mean to keep ‘em keen vibe going on.nah it’s more repetitive than that in here
Definitely, it’s purely because everyone is different by nature. Everyone will live their lives in the best way they think. One can only do that much when trying to persuade the others to join them. If failed, just get along or stay away. So what, right?Yeah it’s a massive shame but I think different people will come to different stances.
Okay, I should have said self sufficient in the transfer market then. The Qatari could put nothing into that side of the club and we could still go out and spend 100-200 Million per season. Just like we have done in previous years under the Glazers.Not if billions are being pumped in to pay for infrastructure that the club itself should be paying for.
I assumed that's what you meant mate but if someone is paying for a new Stadium etc instead of it being funded from the clubs own profits. Then that isn't the club being self-sufficient in any way, shape or form.
Ok I admit, I’ve secretly had a crush on @Berbaclass since last summers Frenkie thread. He broke my heart when he denounced the deal and said he didn’t care anymore!!And there’s no Bill Murray to lighten the mood. Reckon some of this lot are secretly in love with each other though. The old treat ‘em mean to keep ‘em keen vibe going on.
Sorry you're right, I was being quippy. But yeah it hasn't been defined how United would be cheating if the Qatari's take over.What does that even mean? How is the Man City situation even remotely comparable to ours? United is an actual money-making machine. City wasn't so they have to inflate and cheat. I don;t really see why anyone would think that we would suddenly start 'cheating' or financially doping.
so you think City and PSG have cheated with inflated sponsors but in some cases the exact same owners won’t do that with us?More revenue is more revenue.
I imagine some of their revenue is also inflated with 'favorable sponsorship deals' yes.
What on earth are you talking about?Your'e the one bringing morals into it it, what's that got to do with Manchester United football team?
As @Wumminator will tell you, I often say things which I don't mean.Ok I admit, I’ve secretly had a crush on @Berbaclass since last summers Frenkie thread. He broke my heart when he denounced the deal and said he didn’t care anymore!!
Give me a good reason why they would need to?so you think City and PSG have cheated with inflated sponsors but in some cases the exact same owners won’t do that with us?
Explains a lot. Moving on….As @Wumminator will tell you, I often say things which I don't mean.
Why would they cheat the revenue to compete with the team they cheated the revenue to compete with in the first place?so you think City and PSG have cheated with inflated sponsors but in some cases the exact same owners won’t do that with us?
The only reason they’d need to that I can think of is if they have to build a brand new stadium, but I’m not 100% familiar with how FFP is structured so I could be wrongAs @Wumminator will tell you, I often say things which I don't mean.
Give me a good reason why they would need to?
Them paying off our debt and for our stadium is literally levelling the playing field. If the Glazers hadn't done what no other owner in club football has done by a long, long distance, we wouldn't be in a position to require super wealth just to continue existing in our current guise as a major club.Not if billions are being pumped in to pay for infrastructure that the club itself should be paying for.
Well our revenue is behind the revenue of City. By about 50 million. Shall we just leave us behind them then?Why would they cheat the revenue to compete with the team they cheated the revenue to compete with in the first place?
The reason they’re pumped the numbers for those clubs is because they can’t compete with the likes of United in regards to spend. They wouldn’t have to fake United’s numbers to compete with themselves would they?
Well yeah? They’ve just been caught cooking the books and are being charged with that. Meaning that won’t be true for long anyway.Well our revenue is behind the revenue of City. By about 50 million. Shall we just leave us behind them then?
We gave away £1.5 billion of our own money because of those feckers. All rightfully earned too. If you ask me getting a stadium paid for and wiping the debt is pretty fair, I don't consider it 'cheating' I think it's justice really.Them paying off our debt and for our stadium is literally levelling the playing field. If the Glazers hadn't done what no other owner in club football has done by a long, long distance, we wouldn't be in a position to require super wealth just to continue existing in our current guise as a major club.
How this simple fact can be lost on any fan supporting United, let alone someone who is actually very engaged and on this forum is beyond.
Shit like this is what I'd expect from Jenas and the other ABUs in the media.
It's not genuine mate. Ours is.Well our revenue is behind the revenue of City. By about 50 million. Shall we just leave us behind them then?
they’re being charged for deals up to 2018. There lastfinances are apparently perfectly legitimate.Well yeah? They’ve just been caught cooking the books and are being charged with that. Meaning that won’t be true for long anyway.
they’re being charged for deals up to 2018. Their last finances are apparently perfectly legitimate.
Because they stopped providing documentation from that point. You better believe there will be more charges after that date when they finally get their hands on the documentation. There’s nothing legitimate about anything they’ve done.they’re being charged for deals up to 2018. There lastfinances are apparently perfectly legitimate.
Okay, I should have said self sufficient in the transfer market then. The Qatari could put nothing into that side of the club and we could still go out and spend 100-200 Million per season. Just like we have done in previous years under the Glazers.
but you get my point don’t you?It's not genuine mate. Ours is.
Not really no. We aren't really behind City are we if their numbers are total bullshit. We generate more revenue than PSG so we are not behind them either.but you get my point don’t you?
you’re saying our owners won’t cheat because we don’t need to. Well. We sort of do as we are behind sportswashing teams. And our owners have done this type of cheating at other clubs. Every sportswashing club has.
Also, CL money is 50m a year. Football club revenues are quite often a one-zero thing. It's not normal businessNot really no. We aren't really behind City are we if their numbers are total bullshit. We generate more revenue than PSG so we are not behind them either.
Oh wait the Glazers took money out of United? Who knew?Them paying off our debt and for our stadium is literally levelling the playing field. If the Glazers hadn't done what no other owner in club football has done by a long, long distance, we wouldn't be in a position to require super wealth just to continue existing in our current guise as a major club.
How this simple fact can be lost on any fan supporting United, let alone someone who is actually very engaged and on this forum is beyond my comprehension.
Shit like this is what I'd expect from Jenas and the other ABUs in the media.
It's amazing you can read what I wrote and still respond with this. I'll stop here.Oh wait the Glazers took money out of United? Who knew?
I'm obviously well aware what the Glazers have done. But the Qataris or anyone pumping billions into the club isn't levelling the playing field it's financial doping mate.
What the Glazers did to United was scandalous, it cost the club a lot of money and its shit but that's life and shit happens. I personally want United to be truly self-sufficient again and that would mean not having a sugar daddy buy the club a brand new stadium. Or anything if the new owners got rid of the Glazers debt and left it at that United would be fine. The club doesn't need a sugar daddy.
Well maybe you're just easily amazed mate.It's amazing you can read what I wrote and still respond with this. I'll stop here.
If Wumminator had responded to said supporter unprovoked then you would've had a valid point.I'd just like to bring to your attention the fact you are conversing with someone who claims to care about the human rights of people from Qatar but on the same forum mocked a supporter from the very same country because he was happy his native country was buying Utd. Yes, he did that.
I received a warning for one of my responses...
I have the warning recorded on my profile. I wear it as a badge of honour.
He also promised to step back from the thread but just couldn't help himself and returned in less than 48 hours. It's no surprise the thread has been completely derailed again with his re-appearance.
Man City’s owners certainly haven’t.I think the Qataris will be great for the local economy.
What if nobody but a “sugar daddy” has the means to both buy the club and eliminate the debt?Oh wait the Glazers took money out of United? Who knew?
I'm obviously well aware what the Glazers have done. But the Qataris or anyone pumping billions into the club isn't levelling the playing field it's financial doping mate.
What the Glazers did to United was scandalous, it cost the club a lot of money and its shit but that's life and shit happens. I personally want United to be truly self-sufficient again and that would mean not having a sugar daddy buy the club a brand new stadium. Or anything for that matter, if the new owners got rid of the Glazers debt and left it at that United would be fine. The club doesn't need a sugar daddy.
The local laser tag, nail salon and car wash business owners might disagree.Man City’s owners certainly haven’t.
The local laser tag, nail salon and car wash owners might disagree.