How is denying him the chance to play for United denying him the chance to become a better person?He's not allowed the opportunity to learn from that and become a better person?
I mean did you hear the recordings?Charges are dropped and he's still with the same girl.
Thats enough for me, always felt a bit overblown.
Not a fan of canceling people just because you have an unproven opinion about them.
Bring him back in
It's a little disingenuous to claim the courts see him as innocent when it never got that far. It was determined that there was no longer enough evidence to continue. In general, abuse victims going back to their abuser or defending them is nothing new so I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from that.I believe in second chances. Especially if he's with the same lady and the courts see him as innocent.
I'm sure all of you are saints.
I agree it wouldn't be fair on her. However, those audio clips and photos were released on her social media account, and she is now back in a relationship with this public figure. At the very least, I think she deserves to fully tell her side of the story. If what she says doesn't fit the club want to hear PR-wise, then we terminate his contractHow is that even slightly fair on the girl? It seems really selfish to feel she should have to explain her personal life to the public so that fans of a football club can sleep a bit easier and benefit United's PR team.
Lets be honest these aren't just allegations though.Ronaldo played for us after his allegations.
They weren't accused of raping her, just sleeping with her while she was underage.Benzema & Ribery were accused of raping an underage prostitute
I think they're engaged and she's pregnant as well so it's mostly about the sponsors at this pointCharges are dropped and he's still with the same girl.
Thats enough for me, always felt a bit overblown.
Not a fan of canceling people just because you have an unproven opinion about them.
Bring him back in
You'd be surprised at the amount of consesual roleplay of that kind of nature that goes on. That's not me saying that's what happened, but it's the only explanation I can think of that isn't disturbing.Nope nope nope.
We've all heard the tape. There's no explaining that away. I'm a little taken aback and saddened that the poll is close.
Roughly 65% of this forum want Qataris so why is it a surprise. That regime have done far worse things than Greenwood have done too.38 yes' already....
He should be doing that before playing again for United. If he hasn't learnt from the situation and become a better person, there's no way we should be entertaining bringing him back into the fold.He's not allowed the opportunity to learn from that and become a better person?
That's a label that fits Garnacho perfectly as well, the difference is that Greenwood was more effective with goalscoring.Not for me. I found Greenwood frustrating and incredibly greedy
Could potentially work assuming he's still good after all this time. Not sure about Eriksen there for next year though, but that's for another thread.Casemiro - Eriksen
Antony - Bruno - Rashford
Greenwood
Assuming he wasn't an asshole would this attack have scored more than 58 league goals this season? Would we have won EL/FA cup?
I'm really more coming from the angle of, is he worth the risk and trouble to bring back at the potential cost of negative publicity, team cohesion, and sponsorship? I'm not completely against the idea myself, but I'm just not convinced as of now that it's worth all the effort to bring him back.Would it be tainted to get any money off his potential sale too? Not being snarky, genuine question.
What he did was terrible. Normal and everyday people do horrible shit all the time. For instance - being a shitty husband/wife or a lazy parent for years is horrible.Are you aware of the giant gap between saint and batterer. I've shoplifted, but I never in my life even entertained the thought of beating up a woman, let alone my significant other.
But you voted "Yes"?Roughly 65% of this forum want Qataris so why is it a surprise. That regime have done far worse things than Greenwood have done too.
Where do people draw the moral line? Overlooking all that stuff but drawing the line at Greenwood makes no sense to me. You're either pro both or against both in my eyes.
I'm against both FYI.
This.The girl and he are having a kid and by all accounts are back together.
And he was not convicted of any charges.
Reading the comments make me understand that what law decides is of little significance. The People's Court is the highest power innit. Just out of curiosity, will anyone stop watching United if he comes back?
I was thinking of the Valbuena thing.Benzema & Ribery were accused of raping an underage prostitute and acquitted, just like Greenwood. I don't approve of Greenwood's actions but wtf is the point if people are rewarded for similar actions, clearly the people in charge of football don't care as long as they earn money. In fact, it's been proven that they enjoy the profits from murderers (City) so everything is game imo.
I think if that was the case we probably would have heard something like that already, whether from his camp or from hers, a long time ago. You're right that some people are into that kind of thing but I think things could have been squashed a lot quicker if it were the case.You'd be surprised at the amount of consesual roleplay of that kind of nature that goes on. That's not me saying that's what happened, but it's the only explanation I can think of that isn't disturbing.
Selling or loaning him out may be the path of least resistance this summer. He would probably get heckled to death by oppo fans if he came back.I'm really more coming from the angle of, is he worth the risk and trouble to bring back at the potential cost of negative publicity, team cohesion, and image with sponsors? I say no, but maybe someone can convince me otherwise.
If there's an option to offload him to recoup anything we can get for him, I'm all for it.
I would imagine this is broadly the case.Wonder what percentage of the yes' here are pro Qatar and what percentage of no's are anti Qatar. Have a feeling it's similar in that one group cares about their morals over United success, and the other is 100% success and don't care about off field stuff. Everyone's entitled to their views.
