Weghorst shouldn't have been near the pitch today. Pellistri was clearly a better option as an impact sub
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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When? He wouldn’t be a starter? If I remember we refused to pay his fee, waited a year and got him cheaper
He'd gone three at the back and put on Garnacho which is a risk on such a big occasion. To put on a player who has played hardly had any first team football on as well would have been reckless. Let's give him credit for making the decisions he did instead of focusing on those that don't even make sense with hindsight.
Continually playing someone who so clearly offers nothing is reckless , giving minutes to someone who could do something when we were chasing the game would not be reckless
His selection choices were down to the bare bones today so no surprise we lost. I don't fault him at all.
He's done well to nurse the team through to a pretty successful season, given how weak the midfield and forward options are. Martial, Sancho and Eriksen should be squad players at best, not to mention Beek and McTominay. Sabitzer and Weghorst are leaving. Ronaldo already did. Who knows what will happen to Greenwood. Lots of holes to fill this summer.
He's done well to nurse the team through to a pretty successful season, given how weak the midfield and forward options are. Martial, Sancho and Eriksen should be squad players at best, not to mention Beek and McTominay. Sabitzer and Weghorst are leaving. Ronaldo already did. Who knows what will happen to Greenwood. Lots of holes to fill this summer.
I remember a few people getting upset because we didn't pony up the 100m heh
I see your point. I can only imagine Weghorst is the lesser of two evils. At least he's experienced and puts a shift in. The bare minimum, I know. But that's a reflection of the sorry state of our squad. Perhaps there's a legitimate reason he didn't want to throw Pellistri in. I don't believe any of us have seen enough of him to believe they know better than the man who works with him every day.
I don't get why Pellestri hasn't had a chance to show if he's up to scratch, there have been plenty of chances to do so, Antony has been subbed most matches but Sancho kept getting the chance despite not doing very much to earn it
Which is logical because he wanted to push Sancho, who has been one of our biggest transfer busts to date. I agree with you in hindsight, our youngsters bring more energy than Sancho brings in 60-70 mins
Yeah but surely there becomes a point when he has to say enough is enough + even when Sancho wasn't around he didn't really get a chance
I agree but he went to great lengths this season to get Sancho back on track with the off the field stuff so understand why he didn't/doesn't want to give up on him and keeps bringing him in. I'm interested what's going to happen if Amad or maybe even MG returns next season.. Really hope he gives Amad a chance.
He did the best setup he could with what he had. Players like Eriksen and Sancho are not what you want in a game against city where you can't afford any passengers. But in hindsight it was correct to play them so we could sub them off rather than sub them on. He gave us enough of a chance to win the game but we conceded 2 goals from Gundogan's 0.05xG.
Ten Hag has made the most of the resources available to him but I have a couple of concerns about our recruitment for the summer with him. The first problem is if he doesn't completely oust De Gea, the second is the profile of midfielder he is looking at. Our build up play needs to improve significantly and I don't think that can happen with De Gea or Mount as regular starters.
Things which aren’t ETH’s fault:
Ronaldo being a prick and old and crap
Martial being a complete (expensive) waste of rations
Voldemort being voldemort
No money to buy a CF in January
We have played without a proper CF for the entire season.
if This isn’t fixed by next year then by all means pile on but from what we have , what we have achieved is pretty decent, even above expectations
Ronaldo being a prick and old and crap
Martial being a complete (expensive) waste of rations
Voldemort being voldemort
No money to buy a CF in January
We have played without a proper CF for the entire season.
if This isn’t fixed by next year then by all means pile on but from what we have , what we have achieved is pretty decent, even above expectations
Tons of logical fallacies in here, not least of which is assuming Mount is being signed as a squad option, rather than a starter.
I'm a fan of his and I thought he set the team up well. We conceded 2 very soft goals. Just awful goals to concede.
Next season will be telling though. I hope he's got the ruthless ability to cull those not suited for what he wants going forward and we see more progression in our ability to keep the ball/suffocate teams. De Gea absolutely can't be the #1 GK next season.
If we nail the signings and it comes together, we could feasibly challenge for the title.
Good 1st season though.
Next season will be telling though. I hope he's got the ruthless ability to cull those not suited for what he wants going forward and we see more progression in our ability to keep the ball/suffocate teams. De Gea absolutely can't be the #1 GK next season.
If we nail the signings and it comes together, we could feasibly challenge for the title.
Good 1st season though.
I know alot of people don't like Antony, but at least today he would have been better than Sancho.
ETH played his cards as good as he could have. Sometimes it's not up to the managers.
ETH played his cards as good as he could have. Sometimes it's not up to the managers.
If he is not backed then he cannot perform miracles to take us to a title challenge. I fear he will become frustrated if not backed properly.
I would have picked the same team as ETH today. Garnacho had to come off the bench as we had no other player who could make an impact.
Yeah, we missed Antony today - I don't think he's been half as bad as some people think. At the very least he is a handful, always gives 100%, and works his arse off - sadly, for all his technical ability none of those things really apply to Sancho.
Antony may have his limitations but he never sulks and looks disinterested. Any day would have a antony than Sancho
First things first; it’s my opinion. Second; learn to be a bit more respectful.
Now I never said EtH is better, I said that Pep is not better. I rate Erik ten Hag and see him in the same bracket. Also, give EtH the same as Pep and we will see. Ffs I really rate Pep, but the guy only work with teams who are really good from the go.
Pep better than Fergie?
Agreed. The thing that I have liked about Ten Hag's signings (bar Erikson really - but on a free he was a no-brainer) is that they all have a real fight about them. Martinez, Casemiro, Antony and Malacia all clearly have a certain energy and/or work ethic about them. In that sense I think they are the type of players that Fergie would have signed - spirit, character and a will-to-win. If he continues to identify players with those characteristics, and the ownership situation doesn't feck up the summer budget, then I feel confident that this team will be going places.
Fergie would have found a way to get the better of Pep if they were around at the same time I reckon. I think Ten Hag is halfway to finding it himself to be honest - with Licha Martinez, a genuine centre-forward, and a better version of Eriksen in the team today we would have won.First things first; it’s my opinion. Second; learn to be a bit more respectful.
Now I never said EtH is better, I said that Pep is not better. I rate Erik ten Hag and see him in the same bracket. Also, give EtH the same as Pep and we will see. Ffs I really rate Pep, but the guy only work with teams who are really good from the go.
Pep better than Fergie?
Pep is not in the same bracket as Fergie. How in the hell did you come up with that?
He would. I don’t think anyone comes close to Fergie. One of a kind.
I think you are spot on. He is getting closer. What he has done this season is exceptional imo.
It’s something special about him. His a bit different and somewhat crazy. Strange that people can’t see that. People like him are the ones who make it and get success.
Looking at the glaring holes in the first team and then the state of the squad....I think we have overachieved this season.
And I worry for us for next season, if we don't replace DDG and get a top striker and a CM. Getting all three is crucial to staying top 4 and maybe incremental improvement imo.
I agree completely - Ten Hag is the real deal. I have rarely seen a manager that seems so single-minded, and so full of self-belief in his methods. A totally different character to Fergie, but with some similar attributes. I only hope that he gets the backing from the board that he deserves this summer...and hopefully early summer.
Spot on.
The United of last 10 yrs would absolutely penny pinch here, force manager to keep him at lower wages instead of buying a better GK.
I feel completely comfortable with him as our manager, what I don't feel confident about is whether he'll be backed accordingly. Fact is, we could have Pep managing us and it still wouldn't count for anything with the rat-tailed parasites running us to the ground.
Top manager. He’s definitely taking us places
Really impressed with his choice of suiting post-match. Have to say I was worried when he arrived last summer with that beige thing he wore for three days straight but feeling better about the future now.
We might absolutely have to get him to make the midfield of a 6 with two 8s work. Need an absolute high line and excellent one on one defenders for transition defending. Not to mention a sweeper keeper.
I agree with the trophy. However, it is harsh on OLE's 20/21 in the EPL, as we had to play like four games in ten days at the end of that season, and he decided to throw a couple of games, which might have affected the total points.
Even with new ownership, we don’t be competing for titles next year but it will start the process.
To compete for PL and CL, we need:
1) Top GK (70m)
2) One strong CB and sell Maquire (net 30m)
3) Top RB (40m)
4) 2 WC midfielders: One ball carrying and one defensive (150), one young and one established… and one extra good enough to do the job in multiple positions like Mount (50m)
5) One WC striker and one upcoming (150m)
6) One proper wide player (50m)
Kick out: DDG, AWB, Maquire, Martial, Sancho , Elanga, Williams, Fred, Mctominay, Henderson and few others…
Net spend required: 500m still. FACT
To compete for PL and CL, we need:
1) Top GK (70m)
2) One strong CB and sell Maquire (net 30m)
3) Top RB (40m)
4) 2 WC midfielders: One ball carrying and one defensive (150), one young and one established… and one extra good enough to do the job in multiple positions like Mount (50m)
5) One WC striker and one upcoming (150m)
6) One proper wide player (50m)
Kick out: DDG, AWB, Maquire, Martial, Sancho , Elanga, Williams, Fred, Mctominay, Henderson and few others…
Net spend required: 500m still. FACT
Is he feck.
Lucky for him today that City didn't get out of 2nd gear and give us a hiding.
Don't see anything special about his tactics, could almost say he's naive.
I do wonder how much was done for him at Ajax, his backing of dross like Sancho and DDG will be his undoing.
Don't see anything special about his tactics, could almost say he's naive.
I do wonder how much was done for him at Ajax, his backing of dross like Sancho and DDG will be his undoing.
Spot on.
If he started with WW, he would complain about that. As simple as that.
Only way people like him are satisfied are if we win. Anything other than that, come the knives for ETH.
Yeah like he can simply replace players like PeP did at will….
and if he gets it wrong, buy another player like again PEp did….
City had systems and right personnel in place to support PeP as well…
What do you expect him to say about Sancho and DDG? They are shit?
He took over an absolute shit show and did wonders with the in all fairness. PEP came in a winning team and spent millions with no real competition for the top position as everyone else was either down or working on getting up there…..
Did he or did he not wanted a striker last year? Did he or did he not wanted FDJ last year? And many more…
this club structure and people behind the scenes are a mess….I am sure with right backing and of course support staff, he will make us title contenders