I'd say tv money matters more than gate receipts
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Oh dear someone has rattled the cage again it seems.
The last 3-4 pages have been mostly people getting wound up by some clown on Twitter. I have no idea why some United fans are so insecure about their support of the team compared to locals.
The last 3-4 pages have been mostly people getting wound up by some clown on Twitter. I have no idea why some United fans are so insecure about their support of the team compared to locals.
Paying the subscriptions internationally and within the UK funding the ever-increasing PL TV rights that also fund the club (is more valuable monetarily than gate receipts)
Calling out bs has nothing to do with being fragile
I mean, if people really want a hierarchy of fans then you'd have people who attend matches, home and away, at the top all the way down to people who only ever watch streams at the bottom. With Sky/BT subscribers somewhere in the middle. But who gives a shit about where they are on that list?
This just smacks of a complete lack of understanding for the wider game of football and how things operate levels below clubs like United, who basically exist in a bubble.
I'd also like to remind those taking offence that one of the favourite jibes of all football fans is to refer to other fans as plastics. Which I would say is a far bigger insult to someones fandom than suggesting that the core supports views matter a bit more.
What's also funny is that someone's support and how they engage in it has literally been used to attack both bidders, so if people could stop pretending they view all supporters as equal, it would be a lot easier.
Not saying I disagree with the notion, but how much of the club's revenue comes from gate receipts compared to say fans buying merch, paying for official club membership, TV deals etc? Could it be feasible that a fan who's never been to Old Trafford contribute more from a financial perspective by buying a feck ton of official merch, having an MUTV membership, having a club membership and indirectly contributing through a TV subscription?
The choice is simple, accept ownership which allows us to compete and gives us infinite funds beyond our dreams or accept an individual who has to use loans and bonds from various banks, with no assurances of removing debt similar to just to put a bid together to buy the club. A man whose portfolio is that of drowning 2 clubs he already owns into mediocrity and who has his clubs own fans protesting against him
Every company and nation has it's issues. It's not in our hands to control these things and be armchair activists. When the whistle blows, all that matters is the 22 players on pitch we don't root against Abu Dubai, Stan Kroenke, or FSG it's about those 90 minutes and seeing the fruits of the manager's labour who is hopefully supported by a competent board.
Every company and nation has it's issues. It's not in our hands to control these things and be armchair activists. When the whistle blows, all that matters is the 22 players on pitch we don't root against Abu Dubai, Stan Kroenke, or FSG it's about those 90 minutes and seeing the fruits of the manager's labour who is hopefully supported by a competent board.
Indeed, the whole thing baffles me to be honest.
Yes, gate receipts aren't the only revenue stream. They are a revenue stream though. And the only one that is only contributed to by one sort of fan, those who attend matches.
No one does. Doesn't mean you can't call out bullshit. Why are you so annoyed about people calling out bullshit that you have to add your own false takes to the picture? E.g gate receipts arguement
Rio on his YT channel regarding Qatar “I’ve got a good source it’s true” @ 2:22
Well said. I get to go to Old Trafford once a year. But the matchgoing, diehard fans are far more important to the longevity of the club than @PogbaRulez99 on Twitter.
Maybe? And if that helps them sleep at night, then great. But you'd have to buy a stupendous amount of merch to match the costs of attending all our home games every season. And there will be a proportion of match-going fans who also pay for merch, club membership, TV subs etc
Match going fans are more important when it comes into creating atmosphere in a stadium and anything else related to the match day. The locals are more knowledgeable about the club simply because it is embedded in their day to day life.
Those are normal. However what is not normal is saying non match going fans opinion on the take over dont mean as much. Unless if youre part of the clubs board, you know feck all about whats going on no matter where you live. And you know feck all about how everything is going to play out if certain people/group become our new owners. You live close by? Well youre still reading the same sources for info.
Some people want SJR, the other prefers Jassim. Its a personal preference which is again, normal. What is not normal is hiding behind "me local" or "me go to matches everyweek" to proof your opinion matters MORE and thinking the other ones that dont agree with you as inferior or stupid. Its rather pathetic if you ask me.
Those are normal. However what is not normal is saying non match going fans opinion on the take over dont mean as much. Unless if youre part of the clubs board, you know feck all about whats going on no matter where you live. And you know feck all about how everything is going to play out if certain people/group become our new owners. You live close by? Well youre still reading the same sources for info.
Some people want SJR, the other prefers Jassim. Its a personal preference which is again, normal. What is not normal is hiding behind "me local" or "me go to matches everyweek" to proof your opinion matters MORE and thinking the other ones that dont agree with you as inferior or stupid. Its rather pathetic if you ask me.
Christ you lot are boring
a) I'm perfectly calm
b) You seem more annoyed than me
c) it's not bullshit or a fake take. I'm stating facts.
This I agree with and it quite obvious too
We've actually all died. This is hell and will go on forever to torture us all.
You called people fragile for calling out nonsense, I'm wondering why you would do that? Seems you were annoyed, and yes I'm annoyed that you resorted to that, its uncalled for.
a) I'm perfectly calm
b) You seem more annoyed than me
c) it's not bullshit. It's a fact.
Its not a fact either
By the way I am actually a fan who goes to matches and former season ticket holder. Doesn't mean I can't see that the argument that was being made (opinions are more important etc) is complete bullshit
Do you also think those people who pay more tax should get more votes in a general election? After all they're paying more to running society, so why shouldn't their opinion matter more.
It certainly feels like this!
Generally agree with this. You shouldn't have to go to matches to have an opinion on the takeover. Although I do think local, match-going fans have more skin in the game. If the identity of the club fundamentally changes that will hit them harder than foreign, non match-going fans like me.
Anyone heard Rio last youtube video stating that he heard from a good source that the Qatari imminent takeover is true ?
That´s rude. In Austria Sky Premier League Subscription with 5+ games every matchday costs 8€.
Oh we are doing this again... It baffles me that we want to be called the biggest club yet, some fans want to act as Man City.
One day the fans are boasting that Manutd is the biggest club in the world, then the same ones will say, only match going fans matter.
Some people can't afford to go to the game, some people travel further than others to get to the game, does that mean people who spend 4/5 hours getting to and from the game matter more?
Its a joke really, all fans should be treated the same. The thing about match going fans is, they create an atmosphere for the players, given.
Casual United fans, struggle to get tickets, in 19 home games, we do not struggle to sell tickets, which shows the demand for people to go watch the game.
One day the fans are boasting that Manutd is the biggest club in the world, then the same ones will say, only match going fans matter.
Some people can't afford to go to the game, some people travel further than others to get to the game, does that mean people who spend 4/5 hours getting to and from the game matter more?
Its a joke really, all fans should be treated the same. The thing about match going fans is, they create an atmosphere for the players, given.
Casual United fans, struggle to get tickets, in 19 home games, we do not struggle to sell tickets, which shows the demand for people to go watch the game.
Apparently Rio have a good source saying that Qatari takeover imminent:
It's not nonsense or bullshit. Match-going fans matter more to the club than those who don't. Why do you keep trying to deny this?
I think you’re undervaluing the value of the core fan base by suggesting that some fans are more important than others.
The fair weather fans or the global fans probably spend more money on United than the core fan base because they want to feel part of something when they can’t attend games regularly, then when they do they spend the kind of money that we’d use as a deposit on a house.
If the global fan base ever stop spending money on United just watch how desperate times become.
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Wow HUGE difference mate..crazy!
It's only very recently that TV money has actually overtaken matchday revenues and that's after a decade of season ticket price freezes. United match day revenues and the fact they dwarfed our rivals for much of the 90s and 00s played a huge role in our ability to get to the top and maintain that position.
Other clubs have since been spending hundreds of millions on new and upgraded stadiums to catch up on that regard.
Only because Sky and the worldwide equivalents have increased prices year on year have TV revenues actually over taken the matchday income and again, this only applies to the English Premier League and isn't the case in just about every other league on the planet, where matchday revenues are still the basis of the clubs very existence.
Pretty sure hell wouldn't be as hot as it is now.
What's with the random hallelujah?
this isn't an AI generated video is it?That’ll do
When was this actually recorded? Was probably the other day when that tweet came through..
He's probably been duped by the same tweets that were posted a few days ago
Is it better than the Cardiff twitter account source?
What tier is Rio?
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