Oh come off it they aren’t replacing kitchen staff and kit men. Higher management and unwanted players for sure but the vast majority will stay, in fact you’d think that if the facilities are getting better there will probably be more recruitment
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Why are we trusting Reuters so much? I've never seen them mentioned on here previously and therefore don't know how reliable they are. I didn't read their article but others have said that the headline didn't match the article itself, so not sure exactly how much notice that report deserves.
Because they're not in the business of football/sports rumors at all.
They're in the business of reporting on global events and business news and they're amongst the most respected names in the world in both arenas.
If they're reporting on anything, it's not because of PR reasons or clickbait purposes. It's because they have concrete information that they've verified.
One of the most reputable news sources in the world. Would have far more knowledge/experience reporting on a big acquisition like this than your average football writer.
Personally I dont think it’s Jim using the press but it’s Lawton etc having their source on Jim’s side that’s the problem. Nobody is going to say yeah we’re fecked because there’s no upside to that.
Headline completely matched the article Pocco.
You have no idea what they're doing
Neither do you so stop being so dramatic
Clearly Pocco doesn't trust them at all
They've been sportswashing for 18 years, so I'm assuming the Glazers have lots of fans now.
Want Lawton to look a prat so much
It's Reuters. They don't just tweet shit for clicks.
Be very surprised if Ratcliffe is even in the picture now, total quiet ever since he had to change up his approach and play his trump card of paying more for a smaller initial percent.
Feels like end game just like many of the transfers before where one person is exclusively saying it’s done and the rest have no idea so keep repeating the latest nonsense.
Anything could happen but that’s how it feels.
Feels like end game just like many of the transfers before where one person is exclusively saying it’s done and the rest have no idea so keep repeating the latest nonsense.
Anything could happen but that’s how it feels.
It's 800 staff so we know that net is wide enough to cover roles in the training ground that are actually threatening valued members.
You on the other hand are chatting shit with assumptions based on feck all, for the 100th time in this thread.
They are not a sports outlet so you wouldn't really see them much on a sports forum.
The acquisition of Manchester United is a big business transaction though and this what Reuters normally report on.
Another reason why I would trust them over even reliable football journalists like Ducker etc on this topic is that for the likes of Ducker, their primary source would be agents or people working on the football side of the club. An acquisition is something these people wouldn't know much about and wouldn't really have first hand information. So the news we see reported in Telegraph or Times is probably coming from sources on the football side of things, who wouldn't necessarily be up to date.
Reuters on the other hand would have lawyers and M&A experts as their sources who are likely to know more about this kind of thing.
With regard to the concept of "sportswashing", whether it's real, what it actually amounts to (I wanted to quote someone here, but I lost track of the post, apologies for that) and so forth: I had a conversation the other day with an expert on ME politics.
Her basic point was this: sportswashing is more subtle than it's usually portrayed as. It's not about making people with "Western" values genuinely changing their stance on, say, LGBT+ issues - or about making journos stop publishing critical pieces about this and that. It's not even about making certain demographic groups (like football fans) turning a blind eye *. No, it's simply a matter of normalization, establishing a presence that people get more and more used to.
Once people on a big enough scale have become used to having you around (a high-profile presence), you don't need to worry about a) a lot of people not agreeing with your politics and b) journos writing critical pieces about you.
Bottom line: it's about normalization. Or, if you will, it's (as always) about business: normalization is good for business.
* Although this is obviously a bonus. And in the particular context of Manchester United being bought by Qatar, it's a significant one: United have hundreds of millions of (actual, active, passionate) fans across the globe. The possible effect is on a completely different scale compared to City.
Her basic point was this: sportswashing is more subtle than it's usually portrayed as. It's not about making people with "Western" values genuinely changing their stance on, say, LGBT+ issues - or about making journos stop publishing critical pieces about this and that. It's not even about making certain demographic groups (like football fans) turning a blind eye *. No, it's simply a matter of normalization, establishing a presence that people get more and more used to.
Once people on a big enough scale have become used to having you around (a high-profile presence), you don't need to worry about a) a lot of people not agreeing with your politics and b) journos writing critical pieces about you.
Bottom line: it's about normalization. Or, if you will, it's (as always) about business: normalization is good for business.
* Although this is obviously a bonus. And in the particular context of Manchester United being bought by Qatar, it's a significant one: United have hundreds of millions of (actual, active, passionate) fans across the globe. The possible effect is on a completely different scale compared to City.
‘Others have said’So you’ve not even fecking read it, and are basing your stance on what others (who want the same outcome as you) are telling you about the article… I’m not sure if you’re being serious with that.
If so, talk about moulding reality to fit the narrative you want to believe!
No need to trust Reuters, a bunch my mates off of the internet who are also bitter about the likely outcome have told me otherwise.
You generally believe they’re replacing Dom the megastore worker? What the feck are you talking about. Chatting on about Beckham, RvN etc putting smiles on staff faces based of another absolutely shit article by the British press and you’re coming at me about assumptions
"absolute shit from the British press"You generally believe they’re replacing Dom the megastore worker? What the feck are you talking about. Chatting on about Beckham, RvN etc putting smiles on staff faces based of another absolutely shit article by the British press and you’re coming at me about assumptions
You really don't know anything, do you? You've posted a truckload of rubbish believing more dodgy sources about this takeover but you're questioning my evaluations from The Guardian and Andy Mitten.
Have a word.
basic common sense tells you that the majority of none high profile jobs will be same as usual and probs won’t even notice the change.
They have made their whole pledge about investing in the community and local area would be a strange approach.
What’s this new beef about now? I can’t keep up
They're a financial data and news company, the second biggest after Bloomberg. They have excellent sources and unlike clickbait football news, financial news is virtually always accurate because it affects deals, share prices etc. They will be getting the information from people involved in this transaction and it will be verified.
Sports journos don't have those contacts, they know the people within the club and on the football side, and they don't have such a high reporting responsibility. Probably nobody within the club knows what is going on; all of them from Arnold down are at risk of the boot when the Glazers sell.
Incredible.
Reuters aren't sports journalists they usually report on world events and big business transactions.
Basically their source is most likely from Raine Group and not from the club unlike the sources in the UK.
They are also known as very reliable in the business world.
It’s an article based on the absolute obvious. May as well write one about it possibly being Saturday tomorrow.
You‘re one to talk about believing rubbish by the way, it was all fine for the last 3 months when the British press were writing about Jim being in the lead, it’s clear as day they’re out of the loop and know absolutely nothing.
Anyway we’re arguing over a nothing article, I’d almost guarantee that the vast majority of those 800 workers will be safe
Reuters don't seem to have any details on timeline for the process after winning bidder
Yes, that's fair enough. But you'd think that if the source on Jim's side actually knows that Qatar is the preferred party, they wouldn't bother to blatantly lie about the actual state of affairs to their contact at TT (or the DM or whatever). Because surely that would be entirely pointless from Jim's POV - and it would also undermine their reputation as a source.
So, the logical assumption would be (would it not?) that TT are actually publishing what their source genuinely believes to be the case. Rather than making up shit because they're against Qatar on principle.
To be clear: in this scenario it's simply a matter of Reuters having a different source (one at Raine, or one close to a member of the Glazer family, who knows) than TT and that this source is privy to information not known (yet) by the bidders.
Praying they are the ones to break something big but God knows when that happens
I am not interested in pitting one against the other, my entire point is that we shouldn't be
Because they don't know it. Its not like sports press where they will make up any old shit to sound ITK. It's good that we have a reputable outlet that is reporting only facts.
Even if they did have some sort of generic here's how long it takes for the process of ownership to change hands, do you really think it would follow the same timeline with the Glazers.
it's unlikely that anyone has details or certitudes about that timeline.
Trust no one!
What is your gut feeling on it
So totally ignore everyone who speaks
Pretty much or you'll drive yourself crazy trying to keep up. I'm just waiting for an official announcement from the club or Rio.
Yes, although the story has a couple of caveats built in:
"While a deal remains uncertain..."
"The sources cautioned that the situation remained fluid and a new bid from Ratcliffe could prevent Sheikh Jassim from securing exclusivity."
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