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Can anybody sum up the last twenty or so pages?
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summed up last 20 pages, starting with page 1904
Can anybody sum up the last twenty or so pages?
Qatar are on Eid today, and USA have another of their many bank holidays tomorrow.Weird just how quiet this has gone
Honestly, it is all speculation, but if the other 4 Glazers want to sell, I find hard how this sale can get blocked.
votes a | votes b | votes total | % | |
joel | 1700000 | 219000000 | 220700000 | 19.08282496 |
avram | 0 | 166000000 | 166000000 | 14.35318959 |
kevin | 0 | 159000000 | 159000000 | 13.74793461 |
bryan | 0 | 199000000 | 199000000 | 17.20653451 |
edward | 0 | 150000000 | 150000000 | 12.96974963 |
darcie | 0 | 209000000 | 209000000 | 18.07118449 |
other | 52837360 | 0 | 52837360 | 4.568582203 |
Someone just mentioned to me something about an announcement tomorrow between 2pm-6pm?
Finer details with the Qatar bid.Weird just how quiet this has gone
Maybe @Spoony has some ideas for how to get rid of themI feel that we’re all in “From” trying to figure a way out and the monsters are the Glazers
They touch, they break, they steal.Maybe @Spoony has some ideas for how to get rid of them
That could be the reason why this is getting delayed. Where is Woody when we need him (he has some Shares B, I believe)?According to my back of a fag packet calcs, J&A control 33.4% of the votes and so (by a suspiciously exact 0.1%) can block the two thirds majority needed for major changes to the club. Someone else can check my maths but I have it as
votes a votes b votes total % joel 1700000 219000000 220700000 19.08282496avram 0 166000000 166000000 14.35318959kevin 0 159000000 159000000 13.74793461bryan 0 199000000 199000000 17.20653451edward 0 150000000 150000000 12.96974963darcie 0 209000000 209000000 18.07118449other 52837360 0 52837360 4.568582203
They touch, they break, they steal.
No one here is free.
Here they come, they come for money,
No transfers unless you fix FFP
That could be the reason why this is getting delayed. Where is Woody when we need him (he has some Shares B, I believe)?
typical united overpaying wages. he’ll have only been here a day but that’ll be enough for him to buy the whole club. we’re a joke.
I could be wrong, but I'm sure he owns like 0.05% of B class or something.He can't. Only Glazer family is allowed to own them.
Weird just how quiet this has gone
Ed Woodward own 0.05% of B shares too !He can't. Only Glazer family is allowed to own them.
Long weekend in the US and Eid in Qatar. US back online on Weds, most people I know in Qatar are offline until next week but I think Eid offically ends tomorrowWeird just how quiet this has gone
Ed Woodward own 0.05% of B shares too !
Very interesting and confusing.
Everything is based on guesswork we have so little information even if we knew what we were talking about it is difficult to piece it all together.
I am sure that there must be some kind of agreement between the Glazer clan. Given the amount of money involved and the number of companies involved plus the fact that they already have trusts in their various names which hold shares it would be inconceivable that they didn’t have some sort of agreement between them that regulates their dealings. If the agreement is based on a simple majority that’s fine unless one of them decides they’re not happy and wants clarification through the courts and although they may lose this just adds to the time wasting.
Also, we know that they were trying to obtain some sort of external finance to enable four of the Glazers to sell their stakes, this also suggests that there is some difference of opinion on the way forward.
That said they probably want to retain some sort of family harmony and will give each other the chance to try and sort things out, but since this process started early last year, with the failed third-party investment search, it’s probably coming to a point where patience is now threadbare.
If there is an agreement then hopefully that will solve things and we may get an answer.
The problem with trying to resolve it through the company mechanism is that you need two thirds of the votes to get anything meaningful through. Here they have already decided to look at the options through their strategic plan. You would assume that the board would be the final arbitrator and decide the way forward.
Then the board’s decision will probably go to a vote of the shareholders and you would need two thirds, no doubt, to get this through due to the massive change it will make to the company.
Unbelievably even if you added all the Class A shareholders and the four fractionally better Glazers your still shy of the two thirds requirement by a small fraction of less than one, no doubt this has been deliberately maintained by Joel and Av to frustrate anything they do not like.
The only real solution, hopefully, appears through the potential Glazer's own agreement that operates to decides matters between them.
I mean in general not just today.Long weekend in the US and Eid in Qatar. US back online on Weds, most people I know in Qatar are offline until next week but I think Eid offically ends tomorrow
Weird just how quiet this has gone
Believe me, the celebration will come later.I know, was only last week you were celebrating the Qatar buyout for the 11th time this summer.
Believe me, the celebration will come later.
Can't they just use the online app for a settlement figure and then send it via HSBC online banking? Takes a day tops.That really could be a good sign, huge NDAs plus if funds are being transferred and checked, this will take time and today is a bank holiday in US.
A Friend of mine whose high up with KPMG told me, just to pay the debt could take a week or two, dependent on whether new loans have been taking out and how the original debt was managed and refinanced. I think we find out one way or another this week and the Goblins might actually stay but then they will have to spend big as the fan base will go crazy at the thought of them not leaving.
the Goblins might actually stay but then they will have to spend big as the fan base will go crazy at the thought of them not leaving.
Nope not with sums these large it doesn’t plus it’s more to do with the debt and whose actually owed what, they need to clear the Club debt not the amortised transfer debt, but even club debt of £535m plus operating debt of another £190m or so who are the creditors, and who are there creditors of the creditors, United financials are without doubt a mess, the good news of its SJ he has the best of the best in place to sort these out quickly but I would say 3 or 4 working days from Friday I keep saying it’s either done and all hush hush or it’s not getting done anytime soon?Can't they just use the online app for a settlement figure and then send it via HSBC online banking? Takes a day tops.
Not for you though obviously.
This has went extremely quiet now. You’re not even getting the made up bullshit on Twitter anymore or the same old rehashed bollocks from the media. It seems everyone is tired of this shit.
I know the YouTube 'fan channels' aren't too popular on here but Stretford Paddock are currently interviewing the guy who penned the Athletic article about Sheikh Jassim.
But they think the fans are Goons.I think we find out one way or another this week and the Goblins might actually stay but then they will have to spend big as the fan base will go crazy at the thought of them not leaving.
Stretford Paddock is probably the best of the lot. Relatively speaking, they're like a broadsheet newspaper compared to most of the others as tabloids. Mark Goldbridge is like a trashy gossip mag for hormonal teenage girls.
Not watched them, to be fair. Thanks for the recommendation. I might give them a go at so point.How would you rate Utd View
Not rating anything involved with Flex after he repeatedly made fun of Lisandro Martínez while interviewing Toney after Brentford game. Toney even defended Licha and Flex kept humiliating him.How would you rate Utd View
Not rating anything involved with Flex after he repeatedly made fun of Lisandro Martínez while interviewing Toney after Brentford game. Toney even defended Licha and Flex kept humiliating him.
Not rating anything involved with Flex after he repeatedly made fun of Lisandro Martínez while interviewing Toney after Brentford game. Toney even defended Licha and Flex kept humiliating him.
I wasn't being serious thereNope not with sums these large it doesn’t plus it’s more to do with the debt and whose actually owed what, they need to clear the Club debt not the amortised transfer debt, but even club debt of £535m plus operating debt of another £190m or so who are the creditors, and who are there creditors of the creditors, United financials are without doubt a mess, the good news of its SJ he has the best of the best in place to sort these out quickly but I would say 3 or 4 working days from Friday I keep saying it’s either done and all hush hush or it’s not getting done anytime soon?
It fits them perfect
"my debt is your debt now!"