Club Sale | It’s done!

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Arash Massoudi editor for the Financial Times just tweeted after Jackson's article:

"Been a finance reporter for over a decade, the misinformation during the Manchester United sale process is extraordinary. A majority of what you read is wrong. Stick to trusted news outlets, not Twitter."
Really needs to be in the thread title imo. Nice to finally see them get called out
 

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Arash Massoudi editor for the Financial Times just tweeted after Jackson's article:

"Been a finance reporter for over a decade, the misinformation during the Manchester United sale process is extraordinary. A majority of what you read is wrong. Stick to trusted news outlets, not Twitter."
Did he tag Ben Jacobs. I read that as a personal attack on Ben Jacobs which is my favourite type of personal attack.
 

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The funniest part of this saga has to have been reading all the posts of people deducing the sale was close due to completely normal fluctuations in stock price. Truly has been a legendary saga. Don't think some people will make it if the Glazers decide to stay. I'm so invested.
 

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The funniest part of this saga has to have been reading all the posts of people deducing the sale was close due to completely normal fluctuations in stock price. Truly has been a legendary saga. Don't think some people will make it if the Glazers decide to stay. I'm so invested.
pretty funny, but not quite as funny as buying United to be able to frack the grounds around OT
 

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The 5th bid has always been a total offer of £6bn, it’s been reported inaccurately because of NDA’s.

They agreed to pay the debt which is £535m plus £40m left on credit card, this is the real reason the Glazers are not spending money for transfers, part of the deal is that SJ would pay all the historical and club debt not amortised transfer debt (still owed £308m) it’s about £575m - £6bn which means the bid minus the debt is about £5.425bn which is what was reported in a lot of publications. I keep saying if it happens, the final numbers are going to shock most fans, the Greedy Glazers wanted all the debt paid and then £6bn, it’s why reports from Qatar have said they are so greedy and they keep changing the goal posts after deals are actually agreed!
This makes no sense. Why do the glazers care if the debt is paid or not? If they sell to Qatar, they inherit the debt. more likely is that the glazers want 6bn for their exit, and qatar can then choose whether they want to clear the 500m debt or not. How do the glazers benefit by Qatar clearing the debt?
 

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Did he tag Ben Jacobs. I read that as a personal attack on Ben Jacobs which is my favourite type of personal attack.
I think it’s all the journos who are now tweeting that’s from my trusted source who I trust 100 percent because they know it’s all bullshit, they just don’t want to be associated with the other bullshit. Daniel Harris yesterday was a particular low light
 

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No one but the Glazers, the bidders, and their respective representatives know what's going on. Absolutely no one. But there's a ton of clout chasers. This has become crystal clear by this point.
 

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I think it’s all the journos who are now tweeting that’s from my trusted source who I trust 100 percent because they know it’s all bullshit, they just don’t want to be associated with the other bullshit. Daniel Harris yesterday was a particular low light
I think it’s Ben Jacobs specifically
 

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Arash Massoudi editor for the Financial Times just tweeted after Jackson's article:

"Been a finance reporter for over a decade, the misinformation during the Manchester United sale process is extraordinary. A majority of what you read is wrong. Stick to trusted news outlets, not Twitter."
This is probably the most important news in this thread so far.

Essentially almost everyone knows absolutely feck all.
 

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This makes no sense. Why do the glazers care if the debt is paid or not? If they sell to Qatar, they inherit the debt. more likely is that the glazers want 6bn for their exit, and qatar can then choose whether they want to clear the 500m debt or not. How do the glazers benefit by Qatar clearing the debt?
From what I’ve read it’s important because if the potential lawsuit from class A share holders
 

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Hours away from what? Eating? Cumming? Having a shit?
Another pointless tweet saying that Darcy and Kevin will now be staying on now while the other 4 Glazers get bought out by SJR !
 

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NYSE doesn't open until 2.30pm UK time does it? Would have to be then wouldn't it?
Can happen at any time. Companies have to share 'material news' that will impact their share price significantly to the NYSE ten minutes prior to a public announcement if its during trading hours, which will halt trading. Outside of trading hours, it can happen whenever.
 

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How on earth have you come to that conclusion
If they wanted a sale surely they would have progressed on one, no? The Qatari has given the best bid, take it or leave it, and the Glazer family still haven't responded if the Guardian are to be believed.
 

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The NDA is very strict since the opening reports.

Probably the Reuters/Bloomberg reports show a direction to where it's going but when it gets finalized and sold, people will jump the gun for clicks.
 

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If they wanted a sale surely they would have progressed on one, no? The Qatari has given the best bid, take it or leave it, and the Glazer family still haven't responded if the Guardian are to be believed.
If they wanted a quick sale, sure. They want the most money they can possible get though so while there is still more than one active bidder why would they accept one and rule out the other?
 

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From what I’ve read it’s important because if the potential lawsuit from class A share holders
It’s more to do with it’s a full sale process and SJ wishes to delist from the NYSE. This has always been his intent.
Therefore the three stages of that takeover would be ;

Stage One - Clear all existing club Debt with existing lenders.

Stage Two - Agree a deal with 69% Majority share holders and make payment to purchase their controlling shares thus taking control of the club

Stage Three - Make a fair trade share offer under Cayman law for 31% minority shares enabling the club to be delisted from the NYSE this could take 3-4 months after stage 1 and 2.
 

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If they wanted a quick sale, sure. They want the most money they can possible get though so while there is still more than one active bidder why would they accept one and rule out the other?
Yeah all fair points. I just feel more and more pessimistic and maybe I'm mentally preparing for the possibility they stay on. We just seem to be going nowhere, we're close to a year into this process and have had maybe one or two actual news stories.
 

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Another pointless tweet saying that Darcy and Kevin will now be staying on now while the other 4 Glazers get bought out by Sir James Arthur Ratcliffe FIChemE !
Some lads are just having a laugh at this stage. Sadly fans are so desperate they will click on any old clickbait and so the most dodgy lads on social media will take full advantage of this. Kevin and Darcie, give me a break , do they ever even leave Tampa.
 

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I don't think that's even a remote possibility.
I don’t think anything is off the table with the Glazers…..it’s not like they’ve been desperate for a quick sale is it?

While I believe that something will happen, something a bit more left field in terms of investment could well still happen.

What I am amazed at is how both SJR and Qatar have both stayed in the process for so long without anyone walking or leaking anything…..they must both believe they are still in with a good chance of success otherwise they would be out and we would have heard something?
 

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Great new thread title but the guy at the FT must be aware that there are no trusted sources except the club, Raine or NYSE and that by posting it on Twitter he is also included?
 

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This makes no sense. Why do the glazers care if the debt is paid or not? If they sell to Qatar, they inherit the debt. more likely is that the glazers want 6bn for their exit, and qatar can then choose whether they want to clear the 500m debt or not. How do the glazers benefit by Qatar clearing the debt?
You can’t delist from the NYSE without clearing all the existing debt and that must be done first of your intention is to delist.
 

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Do not tweet from dodgy sources. What is so hard about this for you to follow?
A blanket "do not post from Twitter" rule at this stage would be more beneficial.

Anything remotely legitimate will have a fully typed, sourced article to support any tweet, regardless of the origin of the tweet.

Basically anything with the words "a source" or "my source" or "sources close to" should be disregarded as complete horseshit, a source close to my sources has claimed.
 

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Great new thread title but the guy at the FT must be aware that there are no trusted sources except the club, Raine or NYSE and that by posting it on Twitter he is also included?
I think the financial journalist of two decades understands sources and is well placed to discuss them.
 
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