Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

[MackRobinson]

If we could afford Osimhen, we'd buy Kane.

That's irrelevant. The question is between RH and Osimhen.

 

[Strelok]

As a Dane I'd honestly like him to play at least one more full season in a team where he's guaranteed a lot of playing time as opposed to coming here (or elsewhere) where he's probably mostly going to challenge for a starting spot. Of course it's always interesting to see how a young player steps up when having to prove themselves but I'd like to have a proper striking playing for Denmark again who's actually playing in his club as well.

From his point of view he's probably also looking at which manager/coaching setup he's going to work with and whether that's a good fit.

Don't worry mate even WW got to start for us.

 

[Red in STL]

That's irrelevant. The question is between RH and Osimhen.

It's a moot question because Osimhen isn't coming to United unless he halves in value overnight

 

[dasty]

The people who are saying that Hojlund is lacking in pace are probably the same people who said Lisandro is too short and small for PL - people who comment without knowing anything yet act as if they do.

 

[Cloud7]

As a Dane I'd honestly like him to play at least one more full season in a team where he's guaranteed a lot of playing time as opposed to coming here (or elsewhere) where he's probably mostly going to challenge for a starting spot. Of course it's always interesting to see how a young player steps up when having to prove themselves but I'd like to have a proper striking playing for Denmark again who's actually playing in his club as well.

From his point of view he's probably also looking at which manager/coaching setup he's going to work with and whether that's a good fit.

Who is he coming here to compete with?

 

[Devil You Know]

If we could afford Osimhen, we'd buy Kane.

Well put!

 

[Enigma_87]

Others have explained but to reiterate- with Hojlund you buy a project not a finished article. However he has the right profile - his vertical running, quickness and link up play is imo a better fit for us. ETH achieved success with a very young Ajax team that didn’t have established stars so finding a better fit can be better for a team that hasn’t found his feet yet, whilst with Osimhen you pretty much buy a finished product but his qualities doesn’t fit our style as others have explained. A more physical forward with worse link up play.

 

[Teja]

As a Dane I'd honestly like him to play at least one more full season in a team where he's guaranteed a lot of playing time as opposed to coming here (or elsewhere) where he's probably mostly going to challenge for a starting spot. Of course it's always interesting to see how a young player steps up when having to prove themselves but I'd like to have a proper striking playing for Denmark again who's actually playing in his club as well.

From his point of view he's probably also looking at which manager/coaching setup he's going to work with and whether that's a good fit.

A guy like Weghorst was able to get so much game time, don't think there's much chance that Hojlund won't. We're somehow in a position where we don't have an actual CF.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Who is he coming here to compete with?

Martial and Rashford.

 

[Red in STL]

Martial and Rashford.

Martial will be injured, and unless Rashford sign's a new contract soon there's a chance he'll be gone

 

[MackRobinson]

It's a moot question because Osimhen isn't coming to United unless he halves in value overnight

I mean, it's a hypothetical. If that's the game we are going to play then claiming he's a better fit is moot, because Osimhen is clearly a better player.

The unwillingness to answer a simple hypothetical speaks volumes.

 

[MackRobinson]

Others have explained but to reiterate- with Hojlund you buy a project not a finished article. However he has the right profile - his vertical running, quickness and link up play is imo a better fit for us. ETH achieved success with a very young Ajax team that didn’t have established stars so finding a better fit can be better for a team that hasn’t found his feet yet, whilst with Osimhen you pretty much buy a finished product but his qualities doesn’t fit our style as others have explained. A more physical forward with worse link up play.

He's a clearly better player than RH and would make United a better team. Anything else is just a gamble on the potential of RH.

 

[Red in STL]

I mean, it's hypothetical. If that's the game we are going to play then claiming he's a better fit is moot, because Osimhen is clearly a better player.

The unwillingness to answer a simple hypothetical speaks volumes.

Never seen enough of either of them to form any judgement, both are a big gamble but RH is a far lesser gamble than VO

 

[sepulturite]

Jesus there seems to be some posters in this thread who actually want this transfer to go tits up (if we do sign him) so they can say I told you so on an internet forum. Sad.

I think I'll take the judgement of our experienced manager and coach on this one over some people on a forum who think they know what they're talking about.

 

[MackRobinson]

Never seen enough of either of them to form any judgement, both are a big gamble but RH is a far lesser gamble than VO

So a player who scores 31 goals in 39 matches is a bigger risk for a team like United lacking a goalscorer than a player who scored 10 goals in 34 games in the same league?

Ok.

 

[MackRobinson]

Jesus there seems to be some posters in this thread who actually want this transfer to go tits up (if we do sign him) so they can say I told you so on an internet forum. Sad.

I think I'll take the judgement of our experienced manager and coach on this one over some people on a forum who think they know what they're talking about.

You just made that up.

 

[sepulturite]

You just made that up.

Yeh sure I did

Convenient that your the one that responded considering your one of the ones I'm on about though.....

 

[Enigma_87]

He's a clearly better player than RH and would make United a better team. Anything else is just a gamble on the potential of RH.

Yes, he’s clearly better than RH right now. Then Haaland is better than him and Mbappe is better than Haaland. This however is besides the point. We’re not buying Osimhen as he would cost at least twice as much as RH..
I understand that RH is a risk but another season at Serie A and if he bangs in 20 goals and we’re looking at the same valuation as Osimhen.

and no a better player doesn’t make a team better without the synergy. There are many examples of that.

 

[MackRobinson]

Yeh sure I did

Convenient that your the one that responded considering your one of the ones I'm on about though.....

Equally obvious who that was directed towards and you completely imagined what you wrote. Below average attempt at a straw man.

 

[roonster09]

and no a better player doesn’t make a team better without the synergy. There are many examples of that.

That's a good point. There were many better CFs than Firmino but don't think most of them would have made Liverpool better like Firmino did. His playstyle and attribute complimented Salah and Mane style very well.

 

[Cloud7]

Martial and Rashford.

Rashford is still gonna play primarily on the left. Martial is gonna be injured all season.

 

[MackRobinson]

Yes, he’s clearly better than RH right now. Then Haaland is better than him and Mbappe is better than Haaland. This however is besides the point. We’re not buying Osimhen as he would cost at least twice as much as RH..
I understand that RH is a risk but another season at Serie A and if he bangs in 20 goals and we’re looking at the same valuation as Osimhen.

and no a better player doesn’t make a team better without the synergy. There are many examples of that.

I didn't bring up Osimhen. I'm just responding to the claim RH is a better fit, which I strongly disagree with.

 

[sepulturite]

Equally obvious who that was directed towards and you completely imagined what you wrote. Below average attempt at a straw man.

Yeh I really didn't mate. Anyway I'd expect nothing else from you, your one of the most miserable posters on here. Have a good day.

 

[MackRobinson]

That's a good point. There were many better CFs than Firmino but don't think most of them would have made Liverpool better like Firmino did. His playstyle and attribute complimented Salah and Mane style very well.

Firmino also fit Liverpool well b/c their midfield had so little creativity. In theory, United don't have that problem with Mount and Bruno.

 

[MackRobinson]

Yeh I really didn't mate. Anyway I'd expect nothing else from you, your one of the most miserable posters on here. Have a good day.

Finishes off with an ad hominem. Lazy and unimaginative.

 

[roonster09]

Firmino also fit Liverpool well b/c their midfield had so little creativity. In theory, United don't have that problem with Mount and Bruno.

Point is better players doesn't always make team better, it's always about the team and how the player's style fits with other team members.

Nothing to do with Osimhen or Hojlund, it's a generic point.

 

[MackRobinson]

Point is better players doesn't always make team better, it's always about the team and how the player's style fits with other team members.

Nothing to do with Osimhen or Hojlund, it's a generic point.

I agree, but my point is sometimes the gulf in talent is significant enough that a) the drop-off will not be significant enough to go for a worse player b) the player is so good the team is better off tweaking their tactics to accommodate them.

 

[bosskeano]

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[Raven]

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Please, please, please be true

 

[mazhar13]

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Fake news. That Tweet refers to an Atalanta aggregator, and that aggregator is claiming this as their exclusive news. No one in Italy's reported on this.

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[roseguy64]

It seems that the excuses just keep changing. What exactly is the worry about his transfer? Is it his price, his age, or the incredibly colossal pressure it is to replace Weghorst for United and how he inevitably will fail, lose all of his confidence and play for Exeter City in two years?

Are you forgetting that we have both Rashford and Martial to play striker? I have no doubt in my mind that Martial will play most of the time, and when he inevitably gets injured or lazy, Højlund will take over. If he doesn't do well, we can always play Rashford there and Garnacho/Sancho on left.

Multiple reasons can exist for why someone thinks a transfer won't work.

You have a lot of faith in Martial that his history does not warrant.

 

[Enigma_87]

I didn't bring up Osimhen. I'm just responding to the claim RH is a better fit, which I strongly disagree with.

Well we differ on that one. For the price touted I’d question Osimhen fit at United. And while I was onboard couple of years ago having seen more of him and ETH style I stand by it.

 

[NinjaZombie]

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Why has he said no to Juve though?

If they're getting Mason and we're getting Hojlund, Atlanta are getting the better footballer. It's really a shame how things have turned out for Greenwood and United.

 

[Remember the geese]

Why has he said no to Juve though?

If they're getting Mason and we're getting Hojlund, Atlanta are getting the better footballer. It's really a shame how things have turned out for Greenwood and United.

He'd only be going on loan.

 

[Offside]

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not going to question the validity of the source?

 

[CallyRed]

not going to question the validity of the source?

When has that ever stopped posters

 

[Red in STL]

So a player who scores 31 goals in 39 matches is a bigger risk for a team like United lacking a goalscorer than a player who scored 10 goals in 34 games in the same league?

Ok.

You're making a big assumption that he could replicate that in a different league and a team that plays a different style, I'm not saying he couldn't but it's certainly a bigger risk when one is costing probably 3x as much as the other

 

[flappyjay]

Why has he said no to Juve though?

If they're getting Mason and we're getting Hojlund, Atlanta are getting the better footballer. It's really a shame how things have turned out for Greenwood and United.

Juve will get more attention than Atalanta. Either way there will be lot of attention though.

 

[peridigm]

Why has he said no to Juve though?

If they're getting Mason and we're getting Hojlund, Atlanta are getting the better footballer. It's really a shame how things have turned out for Greenwood and United.

Mason was the most exciting youngster to come out of the Ole era. He chose his actions though so he must pay the consequences of those actions. The thing is, he and his GF are expecting so I don't know what to think. A loan in another league is the right move I guess. Let him recover and see where he stands. My opinion is the ultimate decision should come from his peers and not any owner of the club, whoever that may be next year.

 

[Red in STL]

Why has he said no to Juve though?

If they're getting Mason and we're getting Hojlund, Atlanta are getting the better footballer. It's really a shame how things have turned out for Greenwood and United.

Or more likely he doesn't want to be near Pogba